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04-25-2012, 10:22 PM
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I thought I read about him playing abroad but I'm googling right now and can't find any mention of it. Just being American and all his stats start in the US.
He technically only played one year in the US and thus is not eligible under IIHF's old rule that they started enforcing yesterday. Regardless, I'm sorry for derailing the thread.

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Nedved defected January 2nd 1989, he still won't name the people who helped him defect. Nedved is playing for the Czech republic internationally now, certainly a different era.
what year did he compete for Canada though?

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So what are the chances that Gaiduchenko signs with Donbass in the offseason? Would be of great assistance to the Ukrainian hockey program if they had a good goalie to rely on. He could win them games on his own.

Also do you guys think that Klimentyev, Andrei Mikhnov and Varlamov will play for them in the KHL next season? They're some of the only Ukranian's with KHL experience and could be very useful to the team.

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varlamov is the captain so i'd be shocked if they dropped him now

andrei sucks, he'll be in the PHL next year me thinks

klymentiev...would be interesting, but i'm sure there are better hockey options out there

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what year did he compete for Canada though?
1994, but didn't defectors lose their citizenship?

I know Martina Navratilova lost her citizenship when she defected from Czechoslovakia (granted years before). I haven't been able to find anything definitive but If Nedved lost his citizenship the point is moot since the only country he could represent was Canada at the time.

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So what are the chances that Gaiduchenko signs with Donbass in the offseason? Would be of great assistance to the Ukrainian hockey program if they had a good goalie to rely on. He could win them games on his own.
Gaiduchenko stated he wants to go help and rebuild Lokomotiv, I guess it depends if Loko wants him, or if Donbass gives him a boat load of cash.

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I haven't been able to find anything definitive but If Nedved lost his citizenship the point is moot since the only country he could represent was Canada at the time.
I dont know how it was but Nedved plays for Czechs now, he is fighting for WC spot

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I dont know how it was but Nedved plays for Czechs now, he is fighting for WC spot
Different countries.

Czechoslovakia =/= Czech Republic

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Gaiduchenko has contract with CSKA until 30.04.2014 http://www.khl.ru/players/14922/

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Gaiduchenko has contract with CSKA until 30.04.2014 http://www.khl.ru/players/14922/
sad news for me, wish he was gone fast.

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I dont know how it was but Nedved plays for Czechs now, he is fighting for WC spot
Nedved played for the Czechs in the 1996 World Cup (Non-IIHF),

He got his czech citizenship and played in the czech league for 5 years, he is allowed to switch nations.

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sad news for me, wish he was gone fast.
Well, he can be traded for bag of pucks, erm, I mean very valuable draft picks.

There are some rumours that the first signing (maybe some of the Ukrainian players already have existing deals for the next season) of Donbass will be Pavel Brendl... Hopefully it's a false rumour, because Brendl looks done, after he left Torpedo NN.

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Pavel Brendl...
do you have a link?

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do you have a link?
Why do I have to link anything, you don't trust me?

There's a rumour about Sushinshy (link) and Ondrej Nemec (link) too.

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clearly Donbass will be solid enough this year, based on rumors - they got $$$

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clearly Donbass will be solid enough this year, based on rumors - they got $$$
As I already thought Donetsk even in hockey will be Donetsk - mediocrity isn't in the plans of the owners. And that also means Ukraine probably won't get a chance to naturalize players for their needs at International level (and I'm all for such outcome).

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ozo, I have no reason not to believe you, but I can not quote you as source sorry

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varlamov is the captain so i'd be shocked if they dropped him now

andrei sucks, he'll be in the PHL next year me thinks

klymentiev...would be interesting, but i'm sure there are better hockey options out there
Really? I was always under the impression that Andrei was one of the better Ukrainian players, based on the fact that he played in the KHL and put up good points on the NT.

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Really? I was always under the impression that Andrei was one of the better Ukrainian players, based on the fact that he played in the KHL and put up good points on the NT.
He had a severe injury, and for a big such big guys it's always very hard to come back after rehabilitation. Though he wasn't a superstar even before. He technically isn't even a PPG player in PHL this season and showed nothing (like the rest of team) in WC.

EDIT: Just read that Donbass2 next year will consist of young players, so he'll have to find a new gig somewhere else.

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He had a severe injury, and for a big such big guys it's always very hard to come back after rehabilitation. Though he wasn't a superstar even before. He technically isn't even a PPG player in PHL this season and showed nothing (like the rest of team) in WC.

EDIT: Just read that Donbass2 next year will consist of young players, so he'll have to find a new gig somewhere else.
Do you think there is any possibility that he plays for Donbass next season in the KHL? And what was his injury?

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Do you think there is any possibility that he plays for Donbass next season in the KHL? And what was his injury?
He didn't even get a game in VHL this season, so I think it's fair to say that it won't happen. As for the injury, I can't remember anymore, but he was out for almost a full year, so probably with an injured hip or knee.

Donbass has signed two promising youngsters - Viktor Zakharov and Andrei Tatarenko - that will probably play for the second team and have a chance to continue to develop in a competative environment with a view of getting a callup to the big league if need comes.

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He didn't even get a game in VHL this season, so I think it's fair to say that it won't happen. As for the injury, I can't remember anymore, but he was out for almost a full year, so probably with an injured hip or knee.

Donbass has signed two promising youngsters - Viktor Zakharov and Andrei Tatarenko - that will probably play for the second team and have a chance to continue to develop in a competative environment with a view of getting a callup to the big league if need comes.
Well it's good to see that the retention of Ukrainian players has already started. Hopefully this will put an end to Russia's poaching of Ukrainian players.

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Well, they were already Uke NT players.


who are the current top Ukrainian prospects out there who are 'national team free agents'? Or already playing in Russia but undeclared (like Gaiduchenko)

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are there any Ukranians in NA at the age of 20-23?

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are there any Ukranians in NA at the age of 20-23?
Igor Gongalsky is 25

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Igor Gongalsky is 25
I don't think he represents Ukraine internationally though. I wonder if he'll be sought after by Donbass.

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