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John Carlson is a better dman than Ryan McDonagh. Not knocking RM, but Carlson is a little more fluid skater, little stronger on his skates and a bit better passer.

I also know you are talking about Ottawa's dman.
That is one of most hilarious misinformed statements I have ever heard. You haven't watched much MCD have you?

Cause I have watched plenty of Carlson, and he is solid Dman. But he lacks a physical edge to his game and can get exposed in the corners.

Carlson shares more in common with Girardi than a MCD. But whatever you say pal.

I see you have been posting this all over HFboards, maybe if you say it enough it will come true?

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John Carlson is a better dman than Ryan McDonagh. Not knocking RM, but Carlson is a little more fluid skater, little stronger on his skates and a bit better passer.

I also know you are talking about Ottawa's dman.
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He's got a better shot. That's about it.

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He's got a better shot. That's about it.
He is probably sleeping with Carlson.

Plus, Carlson got 37 points this season with significant PP time. McD got 32 points with pretty much none.

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04-29-2012, 01:29 PM
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He's got a better shot. That's about it.
Wrong, Carlson is w/o question a more fluid and powerful skater than Mcdonagh and a better passer.

McDonagh's turnover yesterday was one of the worst of the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the series w/o the homer glasses on, I dont have any because I'm niot a fan of either team.

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He is probably sleeping with Carlson.

Plus, Carlson got 37 points this season with significant PP time. McD got 32 points with pretty much none.
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Wrong, Carlson is w/o question a more fluid and powerful skater than Mcdonagh and a better passer.

McDonagh's turnover yesterday was one of the worst of the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the series w/o the homer glasses on, I dont have any because I'm niot a fan of either team.
Well then GTFO of our board. You've exhausted your usefulness which was already low to begin with.

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Wrong, Carlson is w/o question a more fluid and powerful skater than Mcdonagh and a better passer.

McDonagh's turnover yesterday was one of the worst of the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the series w/o the homer glasses on, I dont have any because I'm niot a fan of either team.
Yet you keep on posting in the Capitals message board constantly.

Its obvious you have a man crush on Carlson. Whatever he isn't a bad player. But saying he has major advantage in the skating department against McD is beyond silly.

McD made a bad play in the corner yesterday, but he made an outstanding play against Ovie skating into the slot as well. I think you are picking and choosing what you want to see.

I saw Carlson get manhandled in the corners a few times in that game. Doesn't mean I think he played badly.


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Juvenile?

I am not the one butting into a conversation that had nothing to do with what I was talking about. If you are so desperate for attention go get somewhere else.

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Wrong, Carlson is w/o question a more fluid and powerful skater than Mcdonagh and a better passer.

McDonagh's turnover yesterday was one of the worst of the playoffs.

Watch the rest of the series w/o the homer glasses on, I dont have any because I'm niot a fan of either team.
You have no clue what you are talking about. McD is a far superior skater in every single aspect. He's been compared with Scott freaking Niedermayer when it comes to skating. And the comparison is right on. How you can even sit there and try to say that Carlson is a "more fluid and powerful skater" is beyond me. It's a laughable assertion and shows that you are completely wrong.

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Yet you keep on posting in the Capitals message board constantly.

Its obvious you have a man crush on Carlson. Whatever he isn't a bad player. But saying he has major advantage in the skating department against McD is beyond silly.

McD made a bad play in the corner yesterday, but he made an outstanding against Ovie skating into the slot as well. I think picking and choosing what you want to see.

I saw Carlson get manhandled in the corners a few times in that game.
I never said major, but he is a more fluid, powerful skater.

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Its obvious you have a man crush on Carlson. Whatever he isn't a bad player. But saying he has major advantage in the skating department against McD is beyond silly.
It's laughable to think Carlson has any advantage at all in skating. Beyond laughable, really.

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I never said major, but he is a more fluid, powerful skater.
And you're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. You couldn't possibly be more wrong if you even tried.

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I never said major, but he is a more fluid, powerful skater.
and you would be wrong. But whatever, unless there is skating competition between the two isn't this completely unprovable on either side? Totally subjective.

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I never said major, but he is a more fluid, powerful skater.
Knocking on McD's skating proves you have no idea way you're talking about. I don't think you've seen his first strides, have you?

Oh wow. One turnover. He must suck then. Sather should trade him for Gomez.

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You have no clue what you are talking about. McD is a far superior skater in every single aspect. He's been compared with Scott freaking Niedermayer when it comes to skating. And the comparison is right on. How you can even sit there and try to say that Carlson is a "more fluid and powerful skater" is beyond me. It's a laughable assertion and shows that you are completely wrong.
Carlson was the best dman in the B's-Caps series by a decent amount considering Seidenberg had Chara as his partner, as Seidenberg was #2 in that series.

He's playing great hockey right now w/o the type of turnover RM made, that was an awful to a potential game and series changing to.

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and you would be wrong. But whatever, unless there is skating competition between the two isn't this completely unprovable on either side? Totally subjective.
You can just use your eyes to see that everything about McDonagh's skating is superior to Carlson's. Carlson does a few things better than McD (mostly things in the offensive zone), but McD's defense, skating, and strength are on another planet than Carlson's. Particularly his skating. McD may be one of the top 5 skaters in the league for d-men.

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Carlson was the best dman in the B's-Caps series by a decent amount considering Seidenberg had Chara as his partner, as Seidenberg was #2 in that series.

He's playing great hockey right now w/o the type of turnover RM made, that was an awful to a potential game and series changing to.
What does that have to do with skating? I am saying everything you've said about his skating is wrong.

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Knocking on McD's skating proves you have no idea way you're talking about. I don't think you've seen his first strides, have you?

Oh wow. One turnover. He must suck then. Sather should trade him for Gomez.
Who said I was "knocking" RM skating? want to point it out? I said Carlson is a more fluid and powerful skater. Ive watched these guys closely as I'm also a huge USA Hockey fan. So, based on my viewings which included RM time at Wisconsin I feel very comfortable making that judgement.

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Carlson was the best dman in the B's-Caps series by a decent amount considering Seidenberg had Chara as his partner, as Seidenberg was #2 in that series.

He's playing great hockey right now w/o the type of turnover RM made, that was an awful to a potential game and series changing to.
Carlson played well against a Bruins team that decided they wanted to trade rushes up ice instead of getting dirty in the corners.

The Rangers will be far more physical with him this series(which is one of his weaknesses).

If you want to isolate one mistake that McD made, and hang your hat on it than be my guest.

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You can just use your eyes to see that everything about McDonagh's skating is superior to Carlson's. Carlson does a few things better than McD (mostly things in the offensive zone), but McD's defense, skating, and strength are on another planet than Carlson's. Particularly his skating. McD may be one of the top 5 skaters in the league for d-men.
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ahhhhh, no.
Uh, you've never seen him play, then. It's clear.

Thank you for proving it.

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Also for a guy who is so involved in USA hockey and has watched so much of it. Aren't you from England?

Do they even get those games? I have a hard enough time finding them and I live in the states.

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Uh, you've never seen him play, then. It's clear.

Thank you for proving it.
He isn't even top five in his own Division never mind NHL.

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He isn't even top five in his own Division never mind NHL.


Who are the better skating d-men in the Atlantic?

There are no defenseman on the Devils, Flyers, or Islanders that can touch McDonagh's skating.

Letang is about the only one who's even close, but McDonagh is a faster skater than him overall.

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Carlson played well against a Bruins team that decided they wanted to trade rushes up ice instead of getting dirty in the corners.

The Rangers will be far more physical with him this series(which is one of his weaknesses).

If you want to isolate one mistake that McD made, and hang your hat on it than be my guest.
Dont kid yourself, there was plenty of play in the corners and on the boards. Carlson will surely be more challenged by NY top 6 than Bostons top 4, but given what I've seen of him he'll do just fine.

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