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04-28-2012, 05:23 AM
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They're not going to change their style of play in the middle of the playoffs to fit Zuccarello. Kreider adds to their puck pursuit game. He's a north-south player. And game 7 bored you? If you wanted "technically entertaining" hockey I guess you should've watched the Flyers and Penguins series, which was some technically terrible hockey.
Was a bit drunk yesterday.
Of course they don`t change the style in the middle of post season.
What I meant was for next year.(Wrong tread maybe) I`m kind of hope they rest Zucca the rest of this year.
Game 7 was very entertaining and exciting,but not great hockey if it`s understandable what I mean by that.

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Was a bit drunk yesterday.
Of course they don`t change the style in the middle of post season.
What I meant was for next year.(Wrong tread maybe) I`m kind of hope they rest Zucca the rest of this year.
Game 7 was very entertaining and exciting,but not great hockey if it`s understandable what I mean by that.
Still potentially 21 games left.... That equals 1/4 of a regular season. Of course a lot can happen... If the Rangers for instance are down with 2 or 3 games when Zuke is ready, there is no doubt in my mind that he could be in the line up, even if its just for the Power Play.

As I said earlier: Zuke with the game winner in OT in game 7 of the finals

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04-28-2012, 05:48 AM
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Maybe with Kreideri on the team, they can change the style of play from the dump and chase to a more-playing system with more skills up front.
It would be a much more entertaining team down to watch. Game 7 was directly boring to watch.
Exciting of course, but not technically entertaining.
if you thought game 7 was boring theres something wrong with you.

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You have to feel for the guy. Hasn't exactly been fortunate so far.

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04-29-2012, 08:22 AM
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No way Torts sits Rupp, Feds, or a healthy Dubi or Boyle for Zucc. Maybe in the regular season if they are struggling, but in the playoffs we need defensively responsible forwards with size, especially on our 3rd and 4th.

Zucc can't do what Feds did today on that 5 on 3.. that's more valuable in the playoffs from a bottom 6 guy than Zuccs playmaking, and he isn't getting into the top 6 without a few more injuries..

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04-29-2012, 08:30 AM
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Nice try with zuc. A gamble that did not cost anything. Good luck on another team next year. Could see him on the Oilers if he does not go back to Europe.

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Nice try with zuc. A gamble that did not cost anything. Good luck on another team next year. Could see him on the Oilers if he does not go back to Europe.
Sather already said they wanted to sign him. I see no reason not to offer him a 1 yr deal even if its an NHL contract. If he gets waived someone will take him at under a million or on waivers.

Its no risk , he has the talent and would of sticked if he didnt get hurt

Also if another F goes down in say the 3 rd round the Rangers need his depth this yr

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The PP needs him. But when healthy, I see no room for him. Unfortunately. If Boyle/Dubi stays out, I can ser him play over Mitchell...but I guess that woulf leave us one center short...hmm

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04-29-2012, 10:21 AM
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Zucc gets in if he's ready to go and someone else gets hurt. Guys like Boyle, Dubi, Artie, Feds, Rupp and Mitchell are better suited physically for playoff type hockey. Bigger, stronger and good along the boards and in the corners than MZA. They are all pretty good defensively. I wouldn't be replacing any one of these guys just to fit Zuccarello in.

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Zucc gets in if he's ready to go and someone else gets hurt. Guys like Boyle, Dubi, Artie, Feds, Rupp and Mitchell are better suited physically for playoff type hockey. Bigger, stronger and good along the boards and in the corners than MZA. They are all pretty good defensively. I wouldn't be replacing any one of these guys just to fit Zuccarello in.
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04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
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The PP needs him. But when healthy, I see no room for him. Unfortunately. If Boyle/Dubi stays out, I can ser him play over Mitchell...but I guess that woulf leave us one center short...hmm
Rupp can play center.

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Playoffs always turn into wars of attrition. Zucc is not known as a very good defensive player and part of the problem is his size. Mitchell might not be doing very much offensively--he's also not getting much ice time and I'm okay with that--but he's okay defensively usually and he does decent board work.

MZA might help the pwp some--but suggesting he's some kind of missing piece to our pwp is a reach AFAIC. How much he could contribute 5 on 5 now is another question--one that I have a lot of doubt about.

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I agree. Mitchell sucks. Id rather go with Zucc anytime. Power play specialist can take the odd shift on the top 6 if not going right.

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dubi on crutches

according to steve zipay of ny newsday

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...notes-1.811976

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Mitchell might not be doing very much offensively

he's also not getting much ice time

he's okay defensively usually and he does decent board work.

MZA might help the pwp some--but suggesting he's some kind of missing piece to our pwp is a reach AFAIC.

How much he could contribute 5 on 5 now is another question--one that I have a lot of doubt about.
he scores on us about as much as he scores for us

hes been killing penalties and getting PP time which is just ridiculous he shouldnt be getting time at all on any NHL team. the worst post lockout player on the leafs has no right being on the 1st place eastern conference team.

mitchell is awful he has made crucial defensive mistakes that have led to goals he is bad defensively

with MZA our PP was so much better, did you watch that flyer game where we had at least 2 PP goals all because of zucc. no doubt our PP was bettter with him in the lineup he did make it much better.

fine MZA is not the answer to 5 on 5 and we all know that. Mitchell however MAKES US WORSE no matter what situation hes playing in. there is no doubt that zucc is the superior player whether it be on the PP, ES, and hell id put him on the PK before mitchell

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he scores on us about as much as he scores for us

hes been killing penalties and getting PP time which is just ridiculous he shouldnt be getting time at all on any NHL team. the worst post lockout player on the leafs has no right being on the 1st place eastern conference team.

mitchell is awful he has made crucial defensive mistakes that have led to goals he is bad defensively

with MZA our PP was so much better, did you watch that flyer game where we had at least 2 PP goals all because of zucc. no doubt our PP was bettter with him in the lineup he did make it much better.

fine MZA is not the answer to 5 on 5 and we all know that. Mitchell however MAKES US WORSE no matter what situation hes playing in. there is no doubt that zucc is the superior player whether it be on the PP, ES, and hell id put him on the PK before mitchell
i disagree, the last few games he played before breaking his wrist showed he improved tremendously in 5 on 5 play and looked like he really fit our system...

i think no matter what we accomplish this season you will see players gone in the offseason, it would not surprise me to see feds not resigned, mitchell gone, and arty or dubi or both gone to add some more youth into the lineup....i hope dubi stays and has a way better season next year, but im not sure

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i disagree, the last few games he played before breaking his wrist showed he improved tremendously in 5 on 5 play and looked like he really fit our system...

i think no matter what we accomplish this season you will see players gone in the offseason, it would not surprise me to see feds not resigned, mitchell gone, and arty or dubi or both gone to add some more youth into the lineup....i hope dubi stays and has a way better season next year, but im not sure
feds, mitchell, and dubi definitely gone. AA is a defensive 3rd line player with offensive skill i think we hang on to him unless we get some insane offer

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he scores on us about as much as he scores for us

hes been killing penalties and getting PP time which is just ridiculous he shouldnt be getting time at all on any NHL team. the worst post lockout player on the leafs has no right being on the 1st place eastern conference team.

mitchell is awful he has made crucial defensive mistakes that have led to goals he is bad defensively

with MZA our PP was so much better, did you watch that flyer game where we had at least 2 PP goals all because of zucc. no doubt our PP was bettter with him in the lineup he did make it much better.

fine MZA is not the answer to 5 on 5 and we all know that. Mitchell however MAKES US WORSE no matter what situation hes playing in. there is no doubt that zucc is the superior player whether it be on the PP, ES, and hell id put him on the PK before mitchell
I guess you know more than Torts. Stupid of him to be playing Mitchell at all. We should fire him and hire you.

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I guess you know more than Torts. Stupid of him to be playing Mitchell at all. We should fire him and hire you.
common are you honestly suggesting that mitchell actually brings something to this team

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common are you honestly suggesting that mitchell actually brings something to this team
What I'm suggesting is despite whatever you or I might think--neither of us are close enough to the actual team--is that Tortorella has led this group to one of the team's best seasons in a long time--and has Mitchell on the team--plays him most every night and gives him sometimes more sometimes less ice time. These playoffs Mitchell's ice time is down but winning games isn't just about the highlight points of the game where someone scores a goal or makes a huge defensive play--it's also about the status quo shifts where both teams battle and grit to no apparent end but not giving ground isn't necessarily useless and that's basically where Mitchell fits right now. 5-6 minutes a night is not a lot but it can still serve an end--if nothing else giving another line more of a breather.

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What I'm suggesting is despite whatever you or I might think--neither of us are close enough to the actual team--is that Tortorella has led this group to one of the team's best seasons in a long time--and has Mitchell on the team--plays him most every night and gives him sometimes more sometimes less ice time. These playoffs Mitchell's ice time is down but winning games isn't just about the highlight points of the game where someone scores a goal or makes a huge defensive play--it's also about the status quo shifts where both teams battle and grit to no apparent end but not giving ground isn't necessarily useless and that's basically where Mitchell fits right now. 5-6 minutes a night is not a lot but it can still serve an end--if nothing else giving another line more of a breather.
the worst player on the only team that has not made the playoffs post lockout shouldnt be here on the 1st place team. i honestly do not understand how you are defending him the guy is a bad hockey player. how would you rather have him over MZA? mitchell brings no offense and makes awful defensive plays while zucc may not be the best defensively but he has offensive talent.

good offense and questionable defense < no offense and awful defense?

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