I didn't put much thought into this so I'll probably end up changing my mind a few times. I'm on the fence about who we go after as far as a goalie is concerned, but in this case I went with Bernier and excluded Connolly (who hypothetically could have been involved in that trade). I also wanted to make sure there was enough cap space (roughly 5 mil) to be able to play with should the need arise during the season.
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My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Martin St. Louis ($5.625m) / Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Teddy Purcell ($2.363m)
Ryan Malone ($4.500m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Brett Connolly ($1.633m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.600m) / Jarret Stoll ($3.000m) / J.T. Brown ($1.350m)
Dana Tyrell ($0.600m) / Nate Thompson ($0.900m) / Adam Hall ($0.600m)
DEFENSEMEN
Victor Hedman ($4.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.000m)
Eric Brewer ($3.875m) / Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.000m)
Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m) / Brian Lee ($0.971m)
Keith Aulie ($0.675m) /
GOALTENDERS
Mathieu Garon ($1.300m)
Josh Harding ($3.500m)
BUYOUTS
Vinny Prospal ($1.167m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,493,166; BONUSES: $1,600,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,806,834
It's a tight budget but when we go deep in the playoffs it will pay for itself.
Obviously Ohlund on LTIR. $7,338,977 in cap space left.
No more Steves. SFY already streamlined the number of Steves on the team this season, I don't think he'll want to go out and re-inflate it.
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This thread is very dangerous. You are attempting to know the mind of God, which no mere mortal should ever contemplate. Just a momentary glance would mean instant insanity.
Stop before unleash forces beyond your comprehension.
Have faith in the PLAN.
Truth. Guessing the Yzerplan leads to questioning it. Let SFY spend his Yzermoney where it's planned it to go.
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Originally Posted by nhljohnson
i've noticed most of the lineups don't have connolly anywhere in them. Is that because he's the trade bait to obtain the likes of girardi or orpik in some of these proposals or do you really think he's going to be sent to the a?
AHL
Last edited by Felonious Python: 04-29-2012 at 05:09 AM.
I haven't clicked on anyone's link but why would we pay 1.5 mil plus for UFA's to be on our bottom 6 when we have plaenty of young ELC's to play there. I also highly doubt Connolly if not traded for a Bernier/Schneider is sent to the AHL. I seen some proposals where we also signed 3 D, we will resign our 3 D in Lee/Aullie/Mik for much less than 3 UFA's. I don't think we sign more than 2 new players, I see a bottom 6 C and a top 4 D, besides a goalie if we don't trade for one.
I haven't clicked on anyone's link but why would we pay 1.5 mil plus for UFA's to be on our bottom 6 when we have plaenty of young ELC's to play there. I also highly doubt Connolly if not traded for a Bernier/Schneider is sent to the AHL. I seen some proposals where we also signed 3 D, we will resign our 3 D in Lee/Aullie/Mik for much less than 3 UFA's. I don't think we sign more than 2 new players, I see a bottom 6 C and a top 4 D, besides a goalie if we don't trade for one.
ELC's would probably be better served getting time in the AHL, especially as defensemen, who tend to need a bit more time in the oven. The exception, to me, is Mark Barberio who is still on his ELC, and deserving of getting a chance in camp to prove it's his time to be there. He just turned 22, so he's realistically only got another year or two to show that he's going to make it.
Although I would agree that $1.5m feels like too much, but that's the market these days, and it's not so out of order when you consider that Boucher likes to mix-and-match defensemen.
Last edited by Felonious Python: 04-29-2012 at 07:45 AM.
ELC's would probably be better served getting time in the AHL, especially as defensemen, who tend to need a bit more time in the oven. The exception, to me, is Mark Barberio who is still on his ELC, and deserving of getting a chance in camp to prove it's his time to be there. He just turned 22, so he's realistically only got another year or two to show that he's going to make it.
Although I would agree that $1.5m feels like too much, but that's the market these days, and it's not so out of order when you consider that Boucher likes to mix-and-match defensemen.
Also in the pipeline are Gudas and Aulie. When you put them together with Barberio and Lee you have a solid and diversified bottom four group but that is assuming they all reach their potential.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Martin St. Louis ($5.625m) / Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Teddy Purcell ($2.363m)
Ryan Malone ($4.500m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Brett Connolly ($1.633m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.600m) / Jarret Stoll ($3.000m) / J.T. Brown ($1.350m)
Dana Tyrell ($0.600m) / Nate Thompson ($0.900m) / Adam Hall ($0.600m)
DEFENSEMEN
Victor Hedman ($4.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.000m)
Eric Brewer ($3.875m) / Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.000m)
Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m) / Brian Lee ($0.971m)
Keith Aulie ($0.675m) /
GOALTENDERS
Mathieu Garon ($1.300m)
Josh Harding ($3.500m)
BUYOUTS
Vinny Prospal ($1.167m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,493,166; BONUSES: $1,600,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,806,834
It's a tight budget but when we go deep in the playoffs it will pay for itself.
I never thought about Stoll. He'd be a great fit IMO. I don't know about a 3 million cap hit though.
FTR my lineup was sans-Connolly as he would more than likely be going the other way for Bernier if it were to happen.
I know there are a few rookies in there too but its different - they're not 18 year olds being tossed into the lineup, one (Killorn) will be 23 by season start, Brown is 21 or 22 and both have spent plenty of time in a far more physical league so they can handle themselves plenty. Cons is, what, 24(?) and has been holding his own in the A.
FTR my lineup was sans-Connolly as he would more than likely be going the other way for Bernier if it were to happen.
I know there are a few rookies in there too but its different - they're not 18 year olds being tossed into the lineup, one (Killorn) will be 23 by season start, Brown is 21 or 22 and both have spent plenty of time in a far more physical league so they can handle themselves plenty. Cons is, what, 24(?) and has been holding his own in the A.
What young players do you think will be in the lineup next year? Wyman? Aulie? Do you think Killorn will make the NHL team out of camp?
I think this would make us very competitive, although i think i am a little too optimistic on some of the cap hits. i had to make it fit so if we offered more money we would have to put ohlund on LTIR. But i like the idea of adding stoll and i think in the right situation penner could be solid for us because he gives us some size that we lack and would be cheap.
What young players do you think will be in the lineup next year? Wyman? Aulie? Do you think Killorn will make the NHL team out of camp?
Killorn has a great shot at the big club, great tools, can slide around the top three lines. Shot needs improvement but is serviceable. Aulie I think makes it by default, he wont clear waivers to get sent down and is out of options. I'm on the fence about Wyman, I like his game, its real honest, but he just needs to produce, so that puts him behind the 8 ball.
I think this would make us very competitive, although i think i am a little too optimistic on some of the cap hits. i had to make it fit so if we offered more money we would have to put ohlund on LTIR. But i like the idea of adding stoll and i think in the right situation penner could be solid for us because he gives us some size that we lack and would be cheap.
I figure someone like him or just bring up killorn who i love. But i think penner just gets a bad rap, everytime i see him he doesn't look terrible. But yea killorn would be fine with me on that third line spot as well, he is a beast
I never thought about Stoll. He'd be a great fit IMO. I don't know about a 3 million cap hit though.
He makes 3.6 now and he won't be looking for a big paycut after these playoffs. He will be worth it though because of the on ice product and he will be a great mentor for the young centers.
ELC's would probably be better served getting time in the AHL, especially as defensemen, who tend to need a bit more time in the oven. The exception, to me, is Mark Barberio who is still on his ELC, and deserving of getting a chance in camp to prove it's his time to be there. He just turned 22, so he's realistically only got another year or two to show that he's going to make it.
Although I would agree that $1.5m feels like too much, but that's the market these days, and it's not so out of order when you consider that Boucher likes to mix-and-match defensemen.
Most of our top prospects on ELC's have already tore up the AHL. I see one of Connolly/Brown on Vinnys wing with Malone on the other. 3rd line of CC/Pyatt/Brown or Connolly, 4th line of Killorn/Thompson/Wyman or Wallace. We don't need to add any UFA's, maybe we can bring back Moore and move Pyatt to wing and put someone in the AHL. On D I see Lee on 2nd pair and a 3rd of Aullie/Mik/MAB, unless Barbero/Gudas have a great camp and earn a spot. All we'd have to add is a top 4 D and Goalie, with the space that the line up would have we could go after a Suter and any goalie we get will cost close to what Roli made.
Looking good, except for the 2nd and 3rd D-pairing: We should add at least one more proven defenseman, IMO.
That was deliberate. I could be (and hope to be) wrong, but I don't think that Yzerman is going to go out and spend a big wad of $ on the free agent market for multiple D. Think he'll prefer to go into the season with an improved roster, expecting it will pay dividends in the standings and look to make an additional move for the defense at or before the trade deadline a la the Brewer trade. It's delayed gratification, but the most cost-effective way of adding your second top-4 D.
My bad, your right. It's not a big buyout but I don't remember why we did it, guys still playing in the NHL.
To sign Tanguay. Oren Koules gives Prospal's a 4 year deal and then Lawton buys a player who wanted to be here for a player who was only here for a paycheck. Just a disaster all around.
To sign Tanguay. Oren Koules gives Prospal's a 4 year deal and then Lawton buys a player who wanted to be here for a player who was only here for a paycheck. Just a disaster all around.
What an *******.
I foresee a signing similar to Matt Gilroy where an underachieving defenseman is given a chance to succeed. I hope that doesn't happen though because I am really excited to see Barberio and Gudas in the lineup. That's 1/3 of our future defense right there and I hope they mesh well together in the NHL.
All this excitement has climaxed in this; our future defense:
Hedman - Lee
Aulie - Wideman
Barberio - Gudas
Wideman is interchangable with a FA or trade acquisition.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Teddy Purcell ($2.363m) / Steven Stamkos ($7.500m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Ryan Malone ($4.500m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / J.T. Brown ($1.350m)
Cory Conacher ($0.871m) / Alexander Killorn ($0.875m) / Dana Tyrell ($0.600m)
Tom Pyatt ($0.600m) / Nate Thompson ($0.900m) / Adam Hall ($0.600m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Eric Brewer ($3.875m)
Victor Hedman ($4.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($4.000m)
Jason Garrison ($0.975m) / Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.000m)
Brian Lee ($0.971m) / Slava Voynov ($0.817m)
Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m) / Keith Aulie ($0.578m)
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($1.250m)
Mathieu Garon ($1.300m)
BUYOUTS
Vinny Prospal ($1.167m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,050,249; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $249,751
I'm drunk and gave it a shot.
Assuming Connolly + something nice for Bernier and Voynov.
SFY and Al Murray magic for two of his draft picks.
Sign Suter, Wideman and Garrison. Resign Lee and Aulie. Promote Killorn and Conacher.
