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04-29-2012, 05:25 PM
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That Lanky kid from Middletown,NJ

See that lanky kid screening the goalie on the winning goal in game 1. There's a reason that he's on the flyers and there's a reason Holmgren and the flyers are willing to show great patience with him.

If I see another trade JVR thread i'm going to lose it. You simply don't trade players with this much potential. I just wish the rest of the fanbase would get on board and realise it.

He's already scored some seriously crucial goals for the flyers. All stemming back to that game 7 in Boston.

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If it gets us Weber, I don't see why not. We have loads of depth on offense and the D has a few dark clouds looming. It's not my favorite idea on earth, but I could live with it.

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If it gets us Weber, I don't see why not. We have loads of depth on offense and the D has a few dark clouds looming. It's not my favorite idea on earth, but I could live with it.
IN a couple of years , JVR attached to that 4.25 mill contract could be quite the bargain.

JVr at 4.25 compared to Weber at 8 . Id have to think about that one.

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If it gets us Weber, I don't see why not. We have loads of depth on offense and the D has a few dark clouds looming. It's not my favorite idea on earth, but I could live with it.
I would like to see a package built (including JVR) that Nashville would accept for Weber. That is right now! not any time in the future, right now.

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I agree. However, if he's getting us a guy like weber or suter, I'd think long and hard about it.

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I trade a lot of other forwards to try to get Weber or Suter before I trade JVR.

That list includes Read, Schenn, Simmonds, and Voracek.

Honestly though, with the way Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning played this season, I don't explore a trade for either Suter or Weber. I go after their rights for a draft pick at most, but more importantly I attack them on the open market.

Trading high-end forward assets is not something we should explore. Our forward core is just too much fun to watch.

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Read at only 900,000 is one of our most important contracts. A guy with his versatility and that cheap you hang on to.

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JVR almost scored with one hand right before the Briere OT goal.

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Read at only 900,000 is one of our most important contracts. A guy with his versatility and that cheap you hang on to.
Plus doesn't even have close to the trade value JVR has.

Sorry that some of us dont think JVR is a future franchise player and looking at how the defense needs help and we have a good amount of forwards. JVR had a good night, but the team was scoring and playing like this (well this as in the 2nd and 3rd periods) all last series.

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I trade a lot of other forwards to try to get Weber or Suter before I trade JVR.

That list includes Read, Schenn, Simmonds, and Voracek.

Honestly though, with the way Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning played this season, I don't explore a trade for either Suter or Weber. I go after their rights for a draft pick at most, but more importantly I attack them on the open market.

Trading high-end forward assets is not something we should explore. Our forward core is just too much fun to watch.
I agree in regards to not trading a player for Suter, but we can't offer sheet Weber and the Preds aren't going to move him for a pick so the only way we are getting Weber is by moving a player their way, likely a guy like JvR if that were to happen. I honestly don't see the Flyers making that move, so I would deal a pick to get Suter's rights or just go after him as a UFA if it comes to that.

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I trade a lot of other forwards to try to get Weber or Suter before I trade JVR.

That list includes Read, Schenn, Simmonds, and Voracek.

Honestly though, with the way Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning played this season, I don't explore a trade for either Suter or Weber. I go after their rights for a draft pick at most, but more importantly I attack them on the open market.

Trading high-end forward assets is not something we should explore. Our forward core is just too much fun to watch.
Voracek is untouchable to me right now.

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Voracek is untouchable to me right now.
I'd be agreeing with this as well.

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Voracek is untouchable to me right now.
What is funny is, Voracek is somehow dispensable but JVR is super untouchable. I do think at times, JVR's potential is severely overrated by some here.

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What is funny is, Voracek is somehow dispensable but JVR is super untouchable. I do think at times, JVR's potential is severely overrated by some here.
I think Schenn is our only expendable forward to be honest.


What Couturier has turned into is just unreal.

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Voracek has a higher ceiling than JVR. But I'm not interested in trading either one. Schenn, Read and maybe Simmonds I could live with dealing for a defenseman, but Read and Simmonds don't have a ton of value, and I don't know if Schenn does either anymore.

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04-29-2012, 06:27 PM
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The Flyers could easily keep everyone of the forwards. They already have a good top four signed next year (Timmo, Mez, Coburn, and Grossman) with Gus, bourdon, and libja being a very adequate 5-7 dmen. It might be better to wait til 2013 to sign the big time dman when Timmonen is off the books and Weber, Elder, and Enstrom are ufas. Unless they got a great package (2-3 great assets) for JVR, it isnt worth it IMO.

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I trade a lot of other forwards to try to get Weber or Suter before I trade JVR.

That list includes Read, Schenn, Simmonds, and Voracek.

Honestly though, with the way Gustafsson, Bourdon, and Manning played this season, I don't explore a trade for either Suter or Weber. I go after their rights for a draft pick at most, but more importantly I attack them on the open market.

Trading high-end forward assets is not something we should explore. Our forward core is just too much fun to watch.
Problem is that aside from maybe Schenn, you can't really build a package around any of those guys that could get Weber.

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I don't know how I feel about a JVR trade. If it is for Weber I do it in a heartbeat. Other trades I'd have to take a long hard look at. JVR has potential for sure, but this team desperately needs defense. Even if a trade looks like on paper it is a loss, it can still be a win. I'm not saying I would put him on the block and trade him for Paul Martin or someone like that, but if someone calls offering a legit top pairing defenseman, especially a young one, I think you take a good hard look at it.

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I would trade JVR before Voracek or Schenn

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Voracek is untouchable to me right now.
Really like his game to. He really breaks his ass out there game in and game out. Now if we can get JVR rolling that will only be a plus for us. I just want him to be consistant thats all. No more disapearing acts JVR we need you.

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JVR says he was a rookie, he "learned a lot" from what Briere taught him about playing in the postseason. That's continued to help him.

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Not surprising at all. It seems Giroux also attended this Danny Briere School of Clutch.

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I think Schenn is our only expendable forward to be honest.


What Couturier has turned into is just unreal.
See, I think Voracek is most untouchable by far. I like Couts but he's not exactly that shut down forward everyone thinks he is. Malkin had 8 freaking pts in the first round. Voracek is the man!!

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Not surprising at all. It seems Giroux also attended this Danny Briere School of Clutch.
Now Giroux should return the favor and show Briere how to play in the regular season.

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