HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

The Out of Town Thread part XLIII All talk from around the league here

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-01-2012, 05:23 PM
  #1
overlords
Hfboards
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Trolling Brian Wilde
Posts: 26,411
vCash: 500
The Out of Town Thread part XLIII All talk from around the league here

continue here.

overlords is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 05:25 PM
  #2
overlords
Hfboards
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Trolling Brian Wilde
Posts: 26,411
vCash: 500
only legit sources, guys

overlords is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 05:26 PM
  #3
Monctonscout
Monctonscout
 
Monctonscout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 30,502
vCash: 500
"Anyone watched Tortorella's press conference today ?

It was pure comedy"

He is from the Brian Burke scool of dealing with the media by trying to intimidate them so they don't get on your team.

Monctonscout is online now  
Old
05-01-2012, 05:29 PM
  #4
BLONG7
Registered User
 
BLONG7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 12,366
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post
"Anyone watched Tortorella's press conference today ?

It was pure comedy"

He is from the Brian Burke scool of dealing with the media by trying to intimidate them so they don't get on your team.
Torts is awesome...just imagine if he was the coach of the Habs...pure gold...

BLONG7 is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:12 PM
  #5
SouthernHab
Registered User
 
SouthernHab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,018
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carey Price View Post
If you're an NHL GM and this doesn't set off all kinds of bells and alarms then you are not on the ball.

One of your players is at a bar at 4 am(not talking missing a curfew by 15 minutes here) the night before a PLAYOFF game. Bad enough if this was a regular season game, but a playoff game is 10x worse.

Combine that with the Montreal nightlife and it's a recipe for disaster unless he is ready to come here cheap on a 1 year deal hoping to parlay that into a mega deal the following year.

This incident probably drops the odds of seeing him in a Hbas jersey next year to close to 0%.
Montreal has been living (and dying) with reactionary GMs and reactionary coaches.

And we see where we are now.......on the outside looking in.......and constantly complaining about how "Management has not developed the Timmins' draft picks".

Radulov did not commit a crime. He is guilty of poor judgement. For him, this is a teachable moment.

I hope that the Preds sour on him forever. I hope that the biggest majority of the GMs sour on him as well. I would love to have Radulov on this team with a coach who understands how to push players' buttons to get them to excel.

Sergei was the practitioner of poor judgement (or so we were told). And now look at him.

The "Montreal nightlife" is an overused cop-out. There is nightlife in every NHL city........maybe not to YOUR liking but it is there none-the-less.

Again, Radulov did not commit a crime. I want to see him in a Habs sweater next year.

SouthernHab is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:26 PM
  #6
FlyingKostitsyn
Registered User
 
FlyingKostitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Quebec
Country: Australia
Posts: 8,031
vCash: 500
I agree with SouthernHab.. we should still try to get Radulov.

Having him in our lineup would make us much, much stronger. People forget how young he is, I think he could be mentored by Markov.

FlyingKostitsyn is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:28 PM
  #7
shamrun
Registered User
 
shamrun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,306
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingKostitsyn View Post
I agree with SouthernHab.. we should still try to get Radulov.

Having him in our lineup would make us much, much stronger.
I am just imagining him with plecky....it would be great.

shamrun is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:29 PM
  #8
Protest the Hero
Registered User
 
Protest the Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernHab View Post
Montreal has been living (and dying) with reactionary GMs and reactionary coaches.

And we see where we are now.......on the outside looking in.......and constantly complaining about how "Management has not developed the Timmins' draft picks".

Radulov did not commit a crime. He is guilty of poor judgement. For him, this is a teachable moment.

I hope that the Preds sour on him forever. I hope that the biggest majority of the GMs sour on him as well. I would love to have Radulov on this team with a coach who understands how to push players' buttons to get them to excel.

Sergei was the practitioner of poor judgement (or so we were told). And now look at him.

The "Montreal nightlife" is an overused cop-out. There is nightlife in every NHL city........maybe not to YOUR liking but it is there none-the-less.

Again, Radulov did not commit a crime. I want to see him in a Habs sweater next year.
The problem isn't that he went out drinking. It's that the night before a playoff game, one that started at 5 pm the next day, he couldn't just stay in his hotel room and prepare for the extremely important game the next day. It definitely sets off alarm bells that he doesn't have the willpower to commit himself to the playoffs.

It doesn't help that he played like crap that game too.

He's not only trying to help his team win a playoff series, he's also playing for a contract. What happens when he's making $5 million a year for the next 5 years, does he have the desire to perform? These are questions you can ask about anyone, but Radulov brought them on himself this time.

Protest the Hero is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:33 PM
  #9
hockeyfan2k11
Registered User
 
hockeyfan2k11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 9,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLONG7 View Post
Torts is awesome...just imagine if he was the coach of the Habs...pure gold...
Would love it. L'Antichambre would spend the entire show discussing him and not the team.

hockeyfan2k11 is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:38 PM
  #10
SouthernHab
Registered User
 
SouthernHab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 10,018
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Protest the Hero View Post
The problem isn't that he went out drinking. It's that the night before a playoff game, one that started at 5 pm the next day, he couldn't just stay in his hotel room and prepare for the extremely important game the next day. It definitely sets off alarm bells that he doesn't have the willpower to commit himself to the playoffs.

It doesn't help that he played like crap that game too.

He's not only trying to help his team win a playoff series, he's also playing for a contract. What happens when he's making $5 million a year for the next 5 years, does he have the desire to perform? These are questions you can ask about anyone, but Radulov brought them on himself this time.
You are arguing from a position that "hockey players can never be taught right from wrong".

As mentioned earlier, we have seen this type of leadership and coaching for far too long. And our franchise has suffered for it.

Lets say that Montreal does not pursue Radulov and an enterprising GM with foresight does sign him. And with Radulov's talent, he becomes a 40 goal scorer for his team.

What do we do? Complain (again) about the one that got away? Or why dont we ever have superstars in Montreal?

We have been lacking foresight for too long. You cannot teach talent. You can teach goals and expectations.

SouthernHab is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:42 PM
  #11
Protest the Hero
Registered User
 
Protest the Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernHab View Post
You are arguing from a position that "hockey players can never be taught right from wrong".

As mentioned earlier, we have seen this type of leadership and coaching for far too long. And our franchise has suffered for it.

Lets say that Montreal does not pursue Radulov and an enterprising GM with foresight does sign him. And with Radulov's talent, he becomes a 40 goal scorer for his team.

What do we do? Complain (again) about the one that got away? Or why dont we ever have superstars in Montreal?

We have been lacking foresight for too long. You cannot teach talent. You can teach goals and expectations.
I'd love to see him on our first/second line. Either the DD line gets most of the attention, leaving Radulov to do his thing against easier opposition, or they focus on Radulov, and leave the DD line to clean up against easier competition.

I'm just saying I'd worry about his commitment if he's doing stupid things like this in the second round of the playoffs. To me it screams he's all about the money/fame, at least at this point. He's still pretty young though, does he have a gf/wife yet?

Protest the Hero is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:44 PM
  #12
BLONG7
Registered User
 
BLONG7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 12,366
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthernHab View Post
You are arguing from a position that "hockey players can never be taught right from wrong".

As mentioned earlier, we have seen this type of leadership and coaching for far too long. And our franchise has suffered for it.

Lets say that Montreal does not pursue Radulov and an enterprising GM with foresight does sign him. And with Radulov's talent, he becomes a 40 goal scorer for his team.

What do we do? Complain (again) about the one that got away? Or why dont we ever have superstars in Montreal?

We have been lacking foresight for too long. You cannot teach talent. You can teach goals and expectations.
Talented, yes he is, but selfish he is also...what does this kind of teammate do to the room? I understand what you are saying, but the guy would be a real gamble...

BLONG7 is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:49 PM
  #13
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,650
vCash: 500
Radulov seems like a potential cancer to me.

Does that mean I wouldn't gamble on him? No, he's still very talented, if you can get him for very little you do. We could use all the wing talent we can get.

Would I give up any assets for him? No way. Time and time again he shows all he cares about is himself. To think people on this board wanted to trade our pick for someone like that.

Et le But is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:55 PM
  #14
hockeyfan2k11
Registered User
 
hockeyfan2k11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 9,131
vCash: 500
So...let me get this straight. A lazy player who has an attitude problem and who goes to the bar to prepare for playoff games is someone people want on their team?

I want nothing to do with the guy.

hockeyfan2k11 is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:56 PM
  #15
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,650
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyfan2k11 View Post
So...let me get this straight. A lazy player who has an attitude problem and who goes to the bar to prepare for playoff games is someone people want on their team?

I want nothing to do with the guy.
But Roy likes him, so he must be a winner.

Et le But is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:57 PM
  #16
Whitesnake
Habs of steel
 
Whitesnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lorraine, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 47,518
vCash: 500
Not sure if people realize how great the Windsor Spitfires were in 2009-2010. Hall, Henrique, Wellwood, Ellis, Fowler. And then there's still some possibilities that Ryan and Nemisz develop as well. Very good team.

Whitesnake is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 06:58 PM
  #17
Whitesnake
Habs of steel
 
Whitesnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lorraine, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 47,518
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
But Roy likes him, so he must be a winner.
Roy liked him when he was playing for him. How he developed later and away from him has nothing to do with Roy.

Whitesnake is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:05 PM
  #18
thewall
Registered User
 
thewall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 871
vCash: 500
ahahaha anyone else caught Bob Cole say.. WHY ALL THE SCREAMING IN MY EARS? hahahahaha

thewall is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:07 PM
  #19
FlyingKostitsyn
Registered User
 
FlyingKostitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Quebec
Country: Australia
Posts: 8,031
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyfan2k11 View Post
So...let me get this straight. A lazy player who has an attitude problem and who goes to the bar to prepare for playoff games is someone people want on their team?

I want nothing to do with the guy.
Lets build a team of Mike Blundens!

FlyingKostitsyn is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:19 PM
  #20
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 17,650
vCash: 500


MiG!

Et le But is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:25 PM
  #21
peate
Habs fan 4 life.
 
peate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Island
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,581
vCash: 2007
LOL at Benoit Brunet ripping into AK and Radulov. Mario getting a few shots in also.

peate is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:26 PM
  #22
hockeyfan2k11
Registered User
 
hockeyfan2k11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 9,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingKostitsyn View Post
Lets build a team of Mike Blundens!
What a silly comment.

hockeyfan2k11 is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:26 PM
  #23
Whitesnake
Habs of steel
 
Whitesnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lorraine, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 47,518
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by peate View Post
LOL at Benoit Brunet ripping into AK and Radulov. Mario getting a few shots in also.
Well Nashville got into ripping them as well...benching him on a really important playoff game is the ultimate ripping...

Whitesnake is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:33 PM
  #24
FlyingKostitsyn
Registered User
 
FlyingKostitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Quebec
Country: Australia
Posts: 8,031
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyfan2k11 View Post
What a silly comment.
You need hard working guys to win but you also need skilled players to keep your opponent on their toes and punish them when they get lazy. Its hard to acquire guys that have both all-star skills and great characters, sometimes you have to settle with just all-star skills.

Besides this whole story is overblown, whoever acquires Radulov is going to be laughing. He's not a monster, he simply missed a curfew. The Preds decision to bench him and AK is possibly catastrophic.

FlyingKostitsyn is offline  
Old
05-01-2012, 07:34 PM
  #25
Protest the Hero
Registered User
 
Protest the Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,383
vCash: 500
Does Ron Maclean not know how awards voting works?

They just finished interviewing Matt Read, and he said, "Should've been a Calder candidate". Every rookie this year is a candidate, the voting is already finished. Henrique, Landeskog, and Nugent-Hopkins just happen to be the top 3, and I have a hard time putting Read ahead of any of those guys, maybe Henrique. Still doesn't change the fact that Maclean's comment made no sense.

Protest the Hero is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:13 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.