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General Talk '12 — Canada (Part II)

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05-01-2012, 09:39 PM
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Shouldn't have invited him to the Olympics either. Would have won the Gold...wait.
Not to mention his 2 World Championship golds, and the fact that Canada is 16-2-2 all time with Luongo in net. What a bum.

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05-01-2012, 10:09 PM
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we (last) won gold in 2007.........obviously some coaches and players have figured it out in the past.

And you can be sure they will again someday.

What team wins every single year here or anywhere for that matter? does that mean they all suck on the big ice too?

God, cut our teams some slack here.

it's not like we haven't waltzed out of europe on the big ice with the trophy in our hands before.

It's been done before and more then once.

You make it seem like we are always useless here.


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We still struggle so much on the big ice. No coach has been able to figure out how to play the game on the bigger ice, or no team has been able to understand the coaches instructions.

Our angles are bad, and our gaps are bad. Hopefully we learn a lot every game.

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05-01-2012, 10:59 PM
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We all have to relax here, we won 3 championships in a 5 year span (2003,2004,2007)

We have a great chance to get back on top.

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05-01-2012, 11:18 PM
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we (last) won gold in 2007.........obviously some coaches and players have figured it out in the past.

And you can be sure they will again someday.

What team wins every single year here or anywhere for that matter? does that mean they all suck on the big ice too?

God, cut our teams some slack here.

it's not like we haven't waltzed out of europe on the big ice with the trophy in our hands before.

It's been done before and more then once.

You make it seem like we are always useless here.
Hey, no one is a bigger team Canada fan than myself. I'm certainly not criticizing the effort or attendance or anything, but we should be doing way more scouting and pre-tournament preparation in regards to big ice game tactics.

You can see some of the players learn it as the game goes on, but they should be far better prepared. You can see it in the dump in selections, zone entry, hit selections, and fore-checking tactics. The Swiss can only hang in a game like that because of superior tactics and rink utilization.

Look at a guy like Methot, barely noticed him out there because he played so smart. The guy is not quick by any stretch, but was always effective because you can see he understands the rink better. I mean, we can certainly improve game to game, and we probably will, it'd just be nice if some of this work was done in the weeks leading up to the tournament, rather than in-tournament.

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05-01-2012, 11:40 PM
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Tough loss especially considering Subban's lengthy experience on international ice surfaces (Belleville).

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05-02-2012, 08:59 AM
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Well I don't disagree that we can do better preparation leading up to this tournament most years.


I just thought that it sounded like you had made out all our teams and coaching staffs as being utterly useless on/with the big ice when by the golds we have won on it shows we are clearly not.

Let's wait and see how this team reacts to it as the games go on, we will be able to see if they are making the adjustments. The early games are always usually a bit shaky as it takes time to get used to and come together as a team.

I do believe they do some work on it leading up to the first games but that old habits die hard and that it takes games played to really have the lightbulb come on and start playing a more big ice game.


It's a big adjustment for our guys no matter how much prep work you do.

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Hey, no one is a bigger team Canada fan than myself. I'm certainly not criticizing the effort or attendance or anything, but we should be doing way more scouting and pre-tournament preparation in regards to big ice game tactics.

You can see some of the players learn it as the game goes on, but they should be far better prepared. You can see it in the dump in selections, zone entry, hit selections, and fore-checking tactics. The Swiss can only hang in a game like that because of superior tactics and rink utilization.

Look at a guy like Methot, barely noticed him out there because he played so smart. The guy is not quick by any stretch, but was always effective because you can see he understands the rink better. I mean, we can certainly improve game to game, and we probably will, it'd just be nice if some of this work was done in the weeks leading up to the tournament, rather than in-tournament.

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05-02-2012, 09:02 AM
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Hear of any rumors of who could replace him yet?.................I haven't.

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Tough loss especially considering Subban's lengthy experience on international ice surfaces (Belleville).

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05-02-2012, 09:17 AM
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maybe they will invite some Europe-based player like Micki DuPont?

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05-02-2012, 09:27 AM
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Kevin Dallman ?

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05-02-2012, 10:20 AM
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Kevin Dallman ?
or even him, Dallman once again had an immense season with Barys and has yet to be capped for Kazakhstan.

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05-02-2012, 10:29 AM
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or even him, Dallman once again had an immense season with Barys and has yet to be capped for Kazakhstan.
And not going to be capped. I think kazakhstani law denies dual citizenship, and he doesnt want to give away Canadian passport.

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05-02-2012, 10:56 AM
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Perry is wearing # 11, Sharp is wearing # 10

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05-02-2012, 10:58 AM
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or even him, Dallman once again had an immense season with Barys and has yet to be capped for Kazakhstan.
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And not going to be capped. I think kazakhstani law denies dual citizenship, and he doesnt want to give away Canadian passport.
He won't be capped either. Last I heard his contract was cancelled and his wife was kicked out of Kazakhstan for an internet blog she wrote criticizing the Kazakhstani government.

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Kevin Dallman ?
Not a bad idea. Apparently he's been doing well in the KHL, and it's not like there are all star defencemen from the NHL lining up to play for this team.

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05-02-2012, 12:19 PM
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Too late to invite Jared Cowen? He's better than Methot at least. TJ Brodie's a good option if they want a puck mover who can skate like Subban.

I'd personally go with Andrew MacDonald from NYI but doubt he even gets considered.

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05-02-2012, 12:39 PM
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If im not mistaken Canada can add two players after the first round is over. So Murray can step in now, then when we reach the qualifying round, we can add someone whose done in the playoffs
I would love to see Nashville eliminated so Weber can possibly go. We'll see what happens.

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05-02-2012, 01:13 PM
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I would love to see Nashville eliminated so Weber can possibly go. We'll see what happens.
Looking at his contract situation I'm pretty sure he wouldn't go.

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05-02-2012, 02:25 PM
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Dumba fly him over

Brings the same thing to the table as Subban.

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05-02-2012, 02:43 PM
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Brings the same thing to the table as Subban.
Swagger?

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Jared Cowen would get my vote.

Gudbranson and Campbell (for some reason I thought he was American) would be a good options too.

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05-02-2012, 07:38 PM
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Is there anywhere to look up boxscores for the exhibition games?

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05-02-2012, 08:27 PM
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Is there anywhere to look up boxscores for the exhibition games?
http://www.swiss-icehockey.ch/SIH/na...007&nav=080802

http://www.swiss-icehockey.ch/SIH/na...008&nav=080802

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05-02-2012, 08:42 PM
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Jared Cowen would get my vote.

Gudbranson and Campbell (for some reason I thought he was American) would be a good options too.
Campbell better get an invite at least.

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05-03-2012, 12:27 AM
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If they want to add a defensive specialist Gorges is mobile enough to play on the big ice.

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burrows and keith on the same team?

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