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05-02-2012, 09:24 AM
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Marc Bergevin named Habs GM

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/...-bergevin.html

That Blackhawks organization has been a real pipeline of GM talent.

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You mean other teams hire inexperienced, rookie GM's too? Who knew.

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So can we expect trades with Montreal in the future?

No Gomez though

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Please continue to be more obsessed with language skills than hockey skills.

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From the papers thread:

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Though Bergevin will hold talks with former Habs goaltending great Patrick Roy, the Quebec Remparts GM/coach isn't going to be the only candidate. Winnipeg Jets assistant Pascal Vincent is also at the top of the list.

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Winnipeg Jets assistant Pascal Vincent is also at the top of the list.

I really like Pascal Vincent and feel he has a bright future, but realistically he has but one year of NHL assistant coaching duties on his resume, and as well some coaching and management experience in the CHL. Given that Bergevin is relatively inexperienced himself, it seems logical that he'd seek to add experienced, tenured personnel to his management and coaching group versus signing a coach with a scant NHL past history. Vincent will be back here in Winnipeg next season I'd bet.

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So can we expect trades with Montreal in the future?

No Gomez though
Might not be too bad of an idea: :p
http://mobile.arcticicehockey.com/20...g-the-bottom-6

Edit: in the end they talk about this and in the comments section they discuss how his contract can be viewed as not that bad if we can get a nice deal for him, then he does well (which probably would happen over sheltered minutes on our third line) thus improving his value, and then have a good trade chip at the trade deadline

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The only way the Jets should take Gomez is if Montreal throws in their 1st (3rd overall) pick to sweeten the poison we're swallowing.

If the Jets want someone who can deliver 10 points over a season, they can pay a lot less and get a lot more effort from whatever fringe player they bring in.

Additionally, one has to question the "leadership" value that Gomez supposely brings; sooner or later you have to back it up with your play... and it's been a long time since that's happened.

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You mean other teams hire inexperienced, rookie GM's too? Who knew.
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The only way the Jets should take Gomez is if Montreal throws in their 1st (3rd overall) pick to sweeten the poison we're swallowing.

If the Jets want someone who can deliver 10 points over a season, they can pay a lot less and get a lot more effort from whatever fringe player they bring in.

Additionally, one has to question the "leadership" value that Gomez supposely brings; sooner or later you have to back it up with your play... and it's been a long time since that's happened.
Gomez's actual salary isn't as outrageous as his cap hit over the final 2 years of his contract. It's still pretty ridiculous. I'd take Gomez and Montreal's 2nd rounder next season...but then Montreal's got the money to bury him in the AHL next year and keep their pick, so I don't imagine they'll be trading Gomez+ for a bag of pucks.

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I might be alone on this, but I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world to take Gomez off the Habs' hands.

I think last year was an aberration - that whole team was a mess (expect when they played the Jets, unfortunately). I think he can be a 30-35 point guy, and would fit right in as our third line center. Honestly, this team needs more veterans.

Plus, one of the things Donald Fehr is likely to push for in the next CBA is a cap floor much closer to the cap ceiling, with revenue sharing making up the difference. If that happens, his contract actually becomes valuable to a low revenue team that needs to get to the floor in a hurry (his salary next year is $4.5M against a $7.3M cap hit). He could be traded next summer if Scheifele is ready for the NHL in 2013-14.

However, I'd only do it if we get something out of it, because I'm sure we could find a comparable player in free agency at 1/3 the price. This ain't a charity.

Gomez and a 2nd/3rd rounder for Antropov?

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I still think Gomez stands a chance at rebounding, he just has to get out of Montreal where he has never really been of good fit.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get bought out and sign back in NJ, and do fairly well.

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I still think Gomez stands a chance at rebounding, he just has to get out of Montreal where he has never really been of good fit.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him get bought out and sign back in NJ, and do fairly well.
Who's going to buy him out? Montreal? They would have to pay him $6.6 million AND take (reduced) cap hits for the next 4 years. The only options to get his cap hit off the books is to trade him or send him down to the AHL.

Maybe the new CBA will have some changes to buyouts/burying, though...

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Rick dudley to be his asst gm now

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Marc Bergevin named Habs GM
This is the thin edge of the sword THAT WILL WIN US THE 25th CUP!!
2011/2012 was supposed to be our breakout year, because the year prior we had a lot of injuries that enabled younger players to get experience, and the year before that we went far

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