Proposal: Montreal Edmonton Draft day

[Highmarker]

Price is better than Dubnyk.

The point is Edmonton wouldn't give up much for him. We have a young promising starter in Dubnyk, so the original trade proposal won't work. I do think Price is slightly overhyped though. You can make all the excuses that Price has bad D bad team etc etc... the thing is Dubey is in the exact same position and came out with similar results. I'd say Price is better but to say it's Not even close i think is wrong.

As for Hall/Yakupov vs Price..... most teams have a goalie, teams like the Blues Canucks and Bruins have 2 elite scoring is harder to come by. while Price may have more value to certain teams i think the majority of teams would rather covet a scoring winger.

[mytor4*]

Originally Posted by Eskimo44

Sure, it would be my pleasure. I've never once made anything up, and the times (like these) that it's been though i was i have always been able to prove wrong. You may not agree with my opinon but we both know i am not one to fabricate anything.

TY .As i said i went through and didn't see it.Mind you i was just skimming so i could have easily missed it which i did. Thats why i asked ,and didn't accused .

[FanHabtic]

Originally Posted by Highmarker

Price is better than Dubnyk.

The point is Edmonton wouldn't give up much for him. We have a young promising starter in Dubnyk, so the original trade proposal won't work. I do think Price is slightly overhyped though. You can make all the excuses that Price has bad D bad team etc etc... the thing is Dubey is in the exact same position and came out with similar results. I'd say Price is better but to say it's Not even close i think is wrong.

As for Hall/Yakupov vs Price..... most teams have a goalie, teams like the Blues Canucks and Bruins have 2 elite scoring is harder to come by. while Price may have more value to certain teams i think the majority of teams would rather covet a scoring winger.

I think if you were to rank the value of position it would be:

1. #1a centerman
2. Elite or star goaltender
3. #1 d-man
4. Star/Top-line winger

Scoring winger's are a dime a dozen compared to the other positions. Habs would never deal away Price in a package (or 1 for 1) for Yakupov as they would take a huge step back. From a team needs perspective, the Habs need a big talented centerman. A potential elite winger is a luxury but not a necessity therefore the Habs wouldn't uproot their core to get one.

[Eskimo44]

Originally Posted by topdog

TY .As i said i went through and didn't see it.Mind you i was just skimming so i could have easily missed it which i did. Thats why i asked ,and didn't accused .

No offense taken, i just wanted to point out i don't ever make stuff up.

[umad]

Price is not a franchise goalie? HAHAHA. Edmonton fans amuse me. Kids only 24 and he's already top 10. He's got at least another 12-15 years in him.

Yaks or Hall, Dubnyk, Lander

Price, 1st

Yaks/Hall > Price
Habs first rounder > Dubnyk, Lander
I'd say pretty close.

[Highmarker]

Originally Posted by FanHabtic

I think if you were to rank the value of position it would be:

1. #1a centerman
2. Elite or star goaltender
3. #1 d-man
4. Star/Top-line winger

Scoring winger's are a dime a dozen compared to the other positions. Habs would never deal away Price in a package (or 1 for 1) for Yakupov as they would take a huge step back. From a team needs perspective, the Habs need a big talented centerman. A potential elite winger is a luxury but not a necessity therefore the Habs wouldn't uproot their core to get one.

Okay, so Price is worth alot to MTL, we get it. Point is he's worth not a whole lot to the majority of the other 29 teams in the league, most of them already have goalies.

Not saying Price isn't a good goalie, just i don't know if Teams are willing to give a whole lot to aquire one.

I'm not arguing importance, but it's easier to package a high quality winger for a return than it is a goalie. Also the idea of a Elite goaltender can be argued as it already has been many times.

Bryzgalov sucks in Philly. Oddly enough Smith is a superstar when PHX picks him up. Elliott? this guy sucked everywhere and is suddenly a star in Ken Hitchcocks system. Chicago won with a mediocre goalie. Philly made it with AHL goaltender Leighton. Detroit continually wins without a stud in net.

I'm not saying price isn't good. I just don't know if teams would be willing to give up a whole lot to aquire a goalie like Price, when there are other goaltenders probably capable of stepping in.

[FanHabtic]

Originally Posted by Highmarker

Okay, so Price is worth alot to MTL, we get it. Point is he's worth not a whole lot to the majority of the other 29 teams in the league, most of them already have goalies.

Not saying Price isn't a good goalie, just i don't know if Teams are willing to give a whole lot to aquire one.

I'm not arguing importance, but it's easier to package a high quality winger for a return than it is a goalie. Also the idea of a Elite goaltender can be argued as it already has been many times.

Bryzgalov sucks in Philly. Oddly enough Smith is a superstar when PHX picks him up. Elliott? this guy sucked everywhere and is suddenly a star in Ken Hitchcocks system. Chicago won with a mediocre goalie. Philly made it with AHL goaltender Leighton. Detroit continually wins without a stud in net.

I'm not saying price isn't good. I just don't know if teams would be willing to give up a whole lot to aquire a goalie like Price, when there are other goaltenders probably capable of stepping in.

The difference between Price and goalies "stepping in" is consistency and an ability to carry a team. There are few goaltenders in this league who are consistently high quality over longterm. (Think Roy, Brodeur, Hasek and currently Lundquist). Price has that ability and is proving it. To have a goaltender of that ilk is beyond valuable to the team that has it. Teams that don't have it "get by" by having someone "step in" for a year or two.

I'm not saying that Price = Yakopov / Hall to the other 29 teams in the league. To the Habs who are building from the net out and have a young core in place with Price, Subban and MaxPac, they would never deal away Price for a guy who may (or may not) become an elite winger. Price is key to the Habs present and future. If Price was an Oiler you would find yourself saying the same thing.

[UniverStalinGraduate*]

Brilliant amount of underrating Price in this thread.

[Classless Manked]

Paajarvi has the hockey sense of a deformed whale.

[Eskimo44]

Originally Posted by UniverStalinGraduate

Brilliant amount of underrating Price in this thread.

You're also the guy who figures that Price is in the very least the 3rd best goalie in the world after Lundquvist and Rinne.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/po...s&pollid=69215

You put him ahead of guys like Quick, Miller, and Thomas. And for all i know you have him ahead of the other two also. Price is being overrated based on his potential, he's a very good goalie and arguably top 10 but he's not some elite franchise goaltender as of now.

[FiveForDrawingBlood]

I rather see Habs stay at 3 then trade up. Yakupov a little better player but smallish winger and KHL if things get tough in Montreal. Galchenyuk is a big center, more value to a team. In mold of a Ron Francis, 80 pts. Not sure who I would compare Yakupov to?

[bert]

Originally Posted by Drydenwasthebest

Most fair statement I have seen about the whole thing. Wanting to see if Dubnyk will develop while getting another top pick is an absolutely valid statement. I think Edmonton should draft a d-man, though because it is a bigger organizational need. However, with Hall's ability to keep getting hurt, I understand why some Oiler fans might want another potentially elite LW on the club. Just be cautious because he has already had two concussions, a type of injury that can end a career at any time. In any case, we agree the OP's trade fails and both teams say "nay!".

Great post, how would you feel about it if Price decides that he wants to move on from montreal?