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05-02-2012, 02:12 PM
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Maybe that is why marc got the job over pierre. Marc wants to buy him out and pierre wanted to send him to the minors.
If Pierre was ever seriously considered Molson should just sell the team now. His family already ruined this team once, I fear they will do it again.

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05-02-2012, 02:16 PM
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Buying out Gomez would be dumb and set the team back another 2 years.

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05-02-2012, 02:30 PM
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1. Molson wants to be classy.
2. Molson wants Gomez nowhere near our young prospects.

Those are the only two possible reasons behind this.


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05-02-2012, 02:36 PM
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1. Molson wants to be classy.
2. Molson wants Gomez nowhere near our young prospects.
Why would Gomez have to be near our prospects? You waive him and let him find a spot in any league in the world(Europe KHL etc)

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05-02-2012, 02:39 PM
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1. Molson wants to be classy.
2. Molson wants Gomez nowhere near our young prospects.

Those are the only two possible reasons behind this.
Molson is an idiot then.

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05-02-2012, 02:44 PM
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#Habs Molson: on Gomez: Marc's building a house, things will be added, removed. Not gotten into specifics. No update as far as I'm concerned
http://twitter.com/#!/habsinsideout1...57753530384384

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05-02-2012, 02:49 PM
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bottom line...

if the team buys out Gomez instead of sending him to the minors, then the organization won't see a penny from my pocket until his buyout hit is off the books.

screw them if they are going to penny pinch with one of the wealthiest clubs in the league (maybe they 've forgotten that the reason the franchise is so well off, is because of how much money the fans pour into the team).


absolute B.S if they do, complete opposite of "building a winning culture".

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05-02-2012, 02:57 PM
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It is possible that Gomez ends up being bought out. However, given the context of this thread, there is nothing to indicate the decision has even been considered yet (at least not according to what the new GM has said)

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05-02-2012, 03:00 PM
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Even if they had made a decision already I doubt they'd give any hints at this press conference. I wasn't expecting an "update". I'm still alarmed at the Sportsnet article by Louis Jean.

Class or no class, it's DUMB to handcuff a new GM with 8 mil of dead cap space the next 2 years while asking to build you a winner. Even worse when you consider 1-that we need to get 5-6 good young players signed long term 2-being 15th in the conference already makes it hard to sell players PLUS 3-the Quebec taxation is another "strike". Why put your rookie Gm "behind the 8 ball" from day 1?

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05-02-2012, 03:01 PM
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Hi Marc, congratulations on your new role as GM of the Montreal Canadiens.

You have over 15% of your available cap space devoted to Rene Bourque, Tomas Kaberle, and the buyout of Scott Gomez.


Good luck!

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05-02-2012, 03:04 PM
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Hi Marc, congratulations on your new role as GM of the Montreal Canadiens.

You have over 15% of your available cap space devoted to Rene Bourque, Tomas Kaberle, and the buyout of Scott Gomez.


Good luck!
Every team in the NHL has worse contracts than Bourque and Kaberle, it's Gomez's 7.35 mil playing 4th line and putting up 11 points that hurts the cap situation.

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05-02-2012, 03:14 PM
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1. Molson wants to be classy.
2. Molson wants Gomez nowhere near our young prospects.

Those are the only two possible reasons behind this.
(3) We are about to embark on a rebuilding phase where we aren't going to be spending anywhere near the cap limit for the next two years. The "Renovating - we'll be back better than ever" period.

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05-02-2012, 03:15 PM
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Every team in the NHL has worse contracts than Bourque and Kaberle, it's Gomez's 7.35 mil playing 4th line and putting up 11 points that hurts the cap situation.
Yeah, Bourque as a big guy with good foot speed who can score 25 goals and Kaberle as insurance in case Markov isn't able to get back to his pre injury levels are fine.

And if the team is able to send Gomez down to the minors than they could have as much as 25 million in cap space. As is, if the cap stays at least the same the Habs have 18 million to sign: Price, Subban, Eller, Emelin, White, Diaz, Nash, Palushaj, and maybe Moen. That's pretty doable.

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05-02-2012, 03:16 PM
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(3) We are about to embark on a rebuilding phase where we aren't going to be spending anywhere near the cap limit for the next two years. The "Renovating - we'll be back better than ever" period.
No, the Habs will spend like a team trying to win the cup next year. You know nothing about how to make a profit if you think otherwise.

The Habs spending 55 million a year instead of 65 won't help Molson make profit on his Habs investment.

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05-02-2012, 03:18 PM
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(3) We are about to embark on a rebuilding phase where we aren't going to be spending anywhere near the cap limit for the next two years. The "Renovating - we'll be back better than ever" period.
where did you pull this out of?

nothing could be farther from the truth. Bergevin said himself that this team has a very good core in place, we're not in a complete rebuild ala the oilers or something, just an intense retool that will result in short term sucess.

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05-02-2012, 03:21 PM
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Every team in the NHL has worse contracts than Bourque and Kaberle, it's Gomez's 7.35 mil playing 4th line and putting up 11 points that hurts the cap situation.
Yes, sure it could be worse than Bourque and Kaberle, but when you add them up all together with the possible buyout of Gomer, it's a pretty grim situation he (Bergevin) is coming in to.

The buyout is just stupid, I can only hope its just a rumour.

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05-02-2012, 03:30 PM
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Yes, sure it could be worse than Bourque and Kaberle, but when you add them up all together with the possible buyout of Gomer, it's a pretty grim situation he (Bergevin) is coming in to.

The buyout is just stupid, I can only hope its just a rumour.
How do you figure it's grim? He can sign most of the core and still have 13-15 mil left to add a couple strong pieces and a bit of depth.

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where did you pull this out of?

nothing could be farther from the truth. Bergevin said himself that this team has a very good core in place, we're not in a complete rebuild ala the oilers or something, just an intense retool that will result in short term sucess.
I'm comfortable with using the term "intense retool", "overhaul", "rebuild" same thing, more or less.

If you want to believe that we'll be a competitive team with this roster and paying Gomez $4 million per year for the next two years, go ahead.

Price, Subban and Eller's raises will probably eat up another $7 million or so plus we'll need another roster player to fill Gomez's spot.

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05-02-2012, 03:41 PM
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How do you figure it's grim? He can sign most of the core and still have 13-15 mil left to add a couple strong pieces and a bit of depth.
I'm not sure what you want to call the situation, but do you think having 11 million tied up in Kaberle, Bourque and Gomez' buyout is a good thing?

Lets take Bourque right out of it, we have 8 million dollars tied up between the Gomez buyout and Kaberle.

What do you think Suter is going to sign for?

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05-02-2012, 03:42 PM
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its just speculation...

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I'm comfortable with using the term "intense retool", "overhaul", "rebuild" same thing, more or less.

If you want to believe that we'll be a competitive team with this roster and paying Gomez $4 million per year for the next two years, go ahead.

Price, Subban and Eller's raises will probably eat up another $7 million or so plus we'll need another roster player to fill Gomez's spot.
Emelin will be getting a raise as well.

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I'd be pissed if they did buyout. While I think no owner wants to pay 10 mil for a guy to be in minors. They would get a much better cap management and payout from just putting Gomez on re-entry where he is bound to be picked up with 2.75 mil next year and 2.25 the year after. Also, he'd have about 3.7 caphit. Sounds logical for a small market team looking for center depth and at 2.5 mil avg, gomez is worth that.

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If Pierre was ever seriously considered Molson should just sell the team now. His family already ruined this team once, I fear they will do it again.
When did his family ruin the team?

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Hi Marc, congratulations on your new role as GM of the Montreal Canadiens.

You have over 15% of your available cap space devoted to Rene Bourque, Tomas Kaberle, and the buyout of Scott Gomez.


Good luck!
maybe you should send him a letter??

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Bring him to camp and if he earns a spot, keep him up, and if he doesn't, demote him

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