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05-03-2012, 01:14 AM
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Bergevin named new General Manager V2.0

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Come on you can't honestly say that this guy is not what we've always wanted. Maybe you would of preferred McGuire or Brisebois, but they don't have any qualifications that Bergevin doesn't already have.

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He's simply a figurehead that fits the superficial requirements ....

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Come on you can't honestly say that this guy is not what we've always wanted. Maybe you would of preferred McGuire or Brisebois, but they don't have any qualifications that Bergevin doesn't already have.



I was one of the few holding out for Bergevin as soon as I heard that Nill couldn't take the job.

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He's simply a figurehead that fits the superficial requirements ....
a figurehead.... yeah illuminati is behind everything. A 20 seasons ex-defensemen, with 7 years as asst-GM, scout, player personnel manager, that also has a sense of humour and doesn't mind talking to the media is a figurehead.

He's not the prime minister he's a GM of a hockey team, there's no need for figureheads.

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I am so happy right now.

On cloud number 9.

Price will be re-signed soon. The Habs will have some cap space to address some holes this offseason and they can hope for a bit better luck on the injury front next year. I fully expect the Habs to be in the division title race, with or without this years 1st round pick having an impact.

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I was one of the few holding out for Bergevin as soon as I heard that Nill couldn't take the job.
417 and myself come to mind as well.

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417 and myself come to mind as well.
Smirnoff best russian stand-up ever, oh and the also the comedian

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I wanted Nill or Bergevin. We got Bergevin. Me happy.

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Links to some interviews that Bergevin did today (May 2nd):

CBC with Ron Maclean

L'Antichambre: Part 1, Part 2 (gets very emotional)

Cap/Rags intermission on RDS

TSN 990

1 on 1 chat with Duthie

Fan 590

Full press conference (scroll down to May 02)

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I wanted Nill or Bergevin. We got Bergevin. Me happy.
He looks and sounds like a good Habs GM. Me happy too.

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I think he's part of my top 3 man crush of 2012 along with Erik Cole and David Tennant (Dr Who) so far.

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Not trying to be insulting here at all, just genuinely curious as to his background. I watched his press conference on TV and though to myself: "Wow, he's pretty horrible with French for a Quebecer, he must have been living in the US for a long time and lost it" (which happened to my mother, and I totally understand) but now I hear his interview with Duthie and he's got the standard heavy Quebecer accent and common mistakes.

It's a weird mix. What language IS he good at? lol.

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Not trying to be insulting here at all, just genuinely curious as to his background. I watched his press conference on TV and though to myself: "Wow, he's pretty horrible with French for a Quebecer, he must have been living in the US for a long time and lost it" (which happened to my mother, and I totally understand) but now I hear his interview with Duthie and he's got the standard heavy Quebecer accent and common mistakes.

It's a weird mix. What language IS he good at? lol.
I thought the same lol, I think he's just nervous maybe

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I think he's part of my top 3 man crush of 2012 along with Erik Cole and David Tennant (Dr Who) so far.

I don't think Tennant is Dr Who anymore.

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I'm very happy with our owners new selection for GM. Seems like he has all the right pieces, lets hope he plays the part as good as he looks it.

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Not trying to be insulting here at all, just genuinely curious as to his background. I watched his press conference on TV and though to myself: "Wow, he's pretty horrible with French for a Quebecer, he must have been living in the US for a long time and lost it" (which happened to my mother, and I totally understand) but now I hear his interview with Duthie and he's got the standard heavy Quebecer accent and common mistakes.

It's a weird mix. What language IS he good at? lol.
worked elsewhere in Canada and the US for the last 28 years.

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Tha alone is impressive. In one day he topped the public appearances of our previous regime and likely more.

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worked elsewhere in Canada and the US for the last 28 years.
Yes and for the french thing, I just think he's not the kind of guy/player with a perfect "parlé'' to start with..

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Come on you can't honestly say that this guy is not what we've always wanted. Maybe you would of preferred McGuire or Brisebois, but they don't have any qualifications that Bergevin doesn't already have.
He definitely brings some elements we have been missing in terms of having a leader at the top who can get everybody energised and will surround himself with smart people. I think the Gainey-Gauthier duo did some good things and not so good things(mostly Gainey's summer of 2009 spending spree) but their biggest fault was everything was top secret and they had a small group making decisions.

If Bergevin gets Carriere Dudley and Lapointe as part of his management group he gives himself a lot of hockjey knowledge and experience.

At the end of the day though he has some big tests right from the start...

1-hiring a new coach that most want to be french, that limites his candidates to 20% or less of the total market unless he can hire an anglophone and teach him french

2-signing guys like Subban and Price, price has to be reasonable to leave cap room and not too long so they don't get complacent...but you don't want to play chicken with your core players

3-dealing with the Gomez situation, he can really help himself by waiving him(freeing up nearly 15 mil cap room the next 2 years) or shoot himself in the foot by buying him out(thus leaving about 11+ mil of "dead cap space"). Part of taht may be to sell Molson on the need to do it one way versus another.

4-surrounding himself with a solid group, that includes assistants, pro scouts and development people

5-improving the team short term(2012-2013) without losing top prospects or top picks...trades and UFA's

The draft will probably be 90% about Timmins and the scouts, he may have a call to make if they can trade up or down from #3 and/or #33 but it will mostly be on Timmins' expertide.

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Not trying to be insulting here at all, just genuinely curious as to his background. I watched his press conference on TV and though to myself: "Wow, he's pretty horrible with French for a Quebecer, he must have been living in the US for a long time and lost it" (which happened to my mother, and I totally understand) but now I hear his interview with Duthie and he's got the standard heavy Quebecer accent and common mistakes.

It's a weird mix. What language IS he good at? lol.
Did you ever hear Serge Savard speak? Didn't stop him from being a decent GM the first half of his tenure or from becoming a millionaire. Bergevin's French is no worse than Cherry's English.

He speaks a working class French because those are his roots and he never went past high school. He also moved into an English milieu from the age of 19. Had to learn another language and probably spoke French on the odd occasion.

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Now, the question :

Who will be the "token anglo", the guy who won't be chosen because of his skills...

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