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05-02-2012, 08:26 PM
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A QO for Zuccarello wouldn't be a raise cap wise, because of the bonuses in his ELC. It would take $945K to qualify him.

Should be worth it.
I would sign him to a one way deal at that price for sure. Nothing wrong with taking a 1 yr flyer on the guy. He has talent just play him on the PP

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05-02-2012, 08:31 PM
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There's no reason NOT to give Zuccs a QO.

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05-02-2012, 08:37 PM
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man I have no faith in Boyle scoring. How the hell did he get a bunch in the first round?

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05-02-2012, 09:14 PM
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man I have no faith in Boyle scoring. How the hell did he get a bunch in the first round?
For one thing, he wasn't concussed.

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05-03-2012, 02:13 AM
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man I have no faith in Boyle scoring. How the hell did he get a bunch in the first round?
He got on a short-lived hot streak, like plenty of role players do from time to time?

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05-03-2012, 02:17 AM
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All players who are RFA receive a QO (with a raise) in order for the team to retain that player's rights. If the Rangers don't offer him a QO, he becomes a UFA.

I think Anisimov has been pretty terrible all season. So I can't fault Torts for playing Boyle more because when AA isn't scoring, Boyle does more.

You can look at his .5 PPG last year but the majority of those points didn't come on the power play.
I know how it works, but (as others have just verified for me) Zucc worked differently for what I now see was the bonuses.

At 900k it would make no sense not to bring him back.

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05-03-2012, 11:23 AM
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Saw Zucc in the press box last night, holy hell is he short, and he had a compression wrap/sleve on his wrist.

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05-03-2012, 11:38 AM
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I have no idea what you're trying to say.


My point is he has not earned a spot on next year's team as someone suggested.
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First of all, he doesn't have a contract for next season. Second, he simply hasn't done enough to be handed a spot. If he wants tore-sign and compete for one, fine.
He hasn't done enough because he has been injured/in the AHL. In the AHL, he dominated. When he played in the NHL, he did very well for the minutes he played. He got sent down at a time when our entire team stunk. Our PP looked incredibly different (in a good way) when he played those few games this season. I say he's earned a contract and therefore, a spot. Who's going to beat him out? He absolutely deserves it.

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05-04-2012, 01:24 AM
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6 weeks tomorrow since injury. On ice practicing. Looking good. Looks like heŽll be ready for round 3....and even this round if the series go deep.

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05-04-2012, 02:27 AM
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Norwegian article, google translate if you have to...lol

http://www.vg.no/sport/ishockey/arti...artid=10057790

- He thinks Norway can beat Sweden again
- Cast is likely to of in a weeks time

Major points..

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05-04-2012, 06:31 AM
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Norwegian article, google translate if you have to...lol

http://www.vg.no/sport/ishockey/arti...artid=10057790

- He thinks Norway can beat Sweden again
- Cast is likely to of in a weeks time

Major points..
Ok. will of course not be able to make this round. But should be ready by round 3.

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05-04-2012, 08:06 AM
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he's not in match shape for a while too...

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He hasn't done enough because he has been injured/in the AHL. In the AHL, he dominated. When he played in the NHL, he did very well for the minutes he played. He got sent down at a time when our entire team stunk. Our PP looked incredibly different (in a good way) when he played those few games this season. I say he's earned a contract and therefore, a spot. Who's going to beat him out? He absolutely deserves it.
Dominating the AHL doesn't really impress me. John Tripp dominated the AHL. Brad Smyth dominated the AHL. Derek Armstrong dominated the AHL.

Who's going to beat him out? Whoever has the better camp. Be it a UFA signing or someone like Bourque, Newbury, Thomas, etc. Again, if he wants to re-sign and compete for a spot, great.

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05-04-2012, 04:29 PM
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MATS ZUCCARELLO'S QUALIFYING OFFER IS FOR $850,500.
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Because his base salary of $810,000 — total salary of $900,000 minus signing bonus of $90,000 — is greater than $660,000 and less than $1,000,000, it is increased by 5 percent for the purposes of his qualifying offer.
NOTE: It must be a one-way qualifying offer if a) the player appeared in 180 or more NHL games in three previous seasons; b) the player appeared in 60 or more NHL games the previous season; and c) the player did not clear waivers during the previous season. Backup goaltender appearances count as games.
CBA REFERENCE: Section 10.2 a (P. 30-31)
DISCLAIMER: Incomplete signing bonus data may lead to inaccurate results via this calculator.


http://www.capgeek.com/qualifying_of...player_id=1777

At an $850,500 two way deal, it'd be foolish not to resign him.

Come camp, everyone competes for a job. Even if Zucc doesn't make it out of camp, he's a solid player for Hartford. I think the real question isn't whether the Rangers offer him a deal, it's whether Zucc signs in the SEL for more money or more guaranteed money.

There's no doubt the PP looks better with him on it.

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The average NHL player salary in 2010 was $2.4 million, according to Forbes.

http://www.ehow.com/info_7858061_ave...#ixzz1tw2EgJf1

850,500k in 2012-13 where the cap has increased is less then 1/3rd of an average NHL salary.

850,500k is less then every player dressed in game 3 for the Rangers with the exceptions of Prust, Hagelin and Bickel. The latter two being on ELCs and Prust would only be a mere 50,500k less.


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05-05-2012, 09:37 AM
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Dominating the AHL doesn't really impress me. John Tripp dominated the AHL. Brad Smyth dominated the AHL. Derek Armstrong dominated the AHL.

Who's going to beat him out? Whoever has the better camp. Be it a UFA signing or someone like Bourque, Newbury, Thomas, etc. Again, if he wants to re-sign and compete for a spot, great.
Glad / hope this is not the general concensus. If so pleeaase let him go.
Concerning the AHL domination debate Apart from being incredible repetetive: there are obviously players that failed in the NHL but not in the AHL. Still, dominating the AHL is not a bad thing. It's not a neutral thing either. It's a good thing, but obviously doesn't tell it all.

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05-05-2012, 10:10 AM
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http://www.capgeek.com/qualifying_of...player_id=1777

At an $850,500 two way deal, it'd be foolish not to resign him.

Come camp, everyone competes for a job. Even if Zucc doesn't make it out of camp, he's a solid player for Hartford. I think the real question isn't whether the Rangers offer him a deal, it's whether Zucc signs in the SEL for more money or more guaranteed money.

There's no doubt the PP looks better with him on it.


http://www.ehow.com/info_7858061_ave...#ixzz1tw2EgJf1

850,500k in 2012-13 where the cap has increased is less then 1/3rd of an average NHL salary.

850,500k is less then every player dressed in game 3 for the Rangers with the exceptions of Prust, Hagelin and Bickel. The latter two being on ELCs and Prust would only be a mere 50,500k less.
John Mitchell has a cap hit of $650.000, so I suppose that might be considered less as well...

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05-05-2012, 10:15 AM
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Barring injury, I don't see Torts making changes to the lineup should Zucc be ready to lace em up. He would be a nice addition to the PP though.

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05-05-2012, 12:21 PM
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I'd still like to see Zooks in these playoffs on the PP.

I think it would be crazy not to resign him if that low qualifying offer is accurate.

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05-05-2012, 12:28 PM
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the forward lineup is fine as is IMO. Barring an injury, Zucc won't play no matter how far we go.

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05-05-2012, 12:55 PM
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850K is even better , just qualify him and give him a chance. If he doesnt make it another team will take him at that price

If Zuke is healthy he can help the PP in the playoffs so I throw him in for Mitchell

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I'd still love to know what this "Zuc can help the power play" idea is based on.

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05-05-2012, 01:12 PM
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I'd still love to know what this "Zuc can help the power play" idea is based on.
he was doing just fine in that spot before he got hurt. The kid can pass. Played the point at times 5 on 3 too. He is small but has skill so in the right spots the can help

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05-05-2012, 01:32 PM
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he was doing just fine in that spot before he got hurt. The kid can pass. Played the point at times 5 on 3 too. He is small but has skill so in the right spots the can help
Two PP points in 10 games. Quite the sample size. We're getting dangerously close to Petr Prucha territory with this guy.

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05-05-2012, 03:29 PM
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Two PP points in 10 games. Quite the sample size. We're getting dangerously close to Petr Prucha territory with this guy.
A better sample size would be 11 PP points in 52 career games. Quite a bit better than Mr. Mitchell's stats (222 and 12).

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I just want to get Zuccs and Dubinsky back just so Mitchell and Rupp can take seats in the press box. Mitchell and Rupp are nothing short of awful, particularly Rupp.

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