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05-03-2012, 11:00 AM
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Rick Dudley was just on 990 again speaking about Marc Bergevin...even more revealing then he was when he was on with Tony a couple of weeks ago.

He said that during his time in Chicago, Bergevin was heavily involved in every discussion for players, whether at pro or amateur level. He specifically mentioned them drafting Andrew Shaw last year, a guy they drafted in the 5th round, a player who had gone undrafted in 2 previous drafts...Dudley said that Bergevin explicitly advised them to draft Shaw (he went out of his way to insist they draft Shaw).
He also offered other examples.

I find it sad people are more interested in talking about Pierre McGuire...was really sad IMO, 90% of calls on 990 yesterday and today are all about Pierre McGuire
Did Tony ask him if he would take an Asst GM role in Montreal?

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05-03-2012, 11:06 AM
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Did Tony ask him if he would take an Asst GM role in Montreal?
yes...Tony asked if Bergevin approached him for a job, if he would listen.

Dudley answered yes, seemed receptive to the idea.

Again...for anyone lamenting over Pierre McGuire, listen to what an executive who is currently employed in the NHL and who works for a divisional rival, has to say about Marc Bergevin.

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05-03-2012, 11:07 AM
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yes...Tony asked if Bergevin approached him for a job, if he would listen.

Dudley answered yes, seemed receptive to the idea.

Again...for anyone lamenting over Pierre McGuire, listen to what an executive who is currently employed in the NHL and who works for a divisional rival, has to say about Marc Bergevin.
Seems like Dudley is coming our way then.

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Would be really sweet to see Dudley leave Toronto for Montreal

Poor Leafs fans

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Dudley is a GREAT hockey guy. I was a bit jealous when he signed with Toronto. Mind ou, their management is so bad that Dudley hasn't had an effect on them, that I know of thus far.

Good things are coming to our Habs.

I can also see us getting a lot bigger, tougher and skilled. Definatley see an emphasis on D as well considering Beregevin past as a player and success with the Blackhawks.

Not to be too much of a homer, but I can see us contending in a couple of years.

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Rick Dudley commended Marc Bergevin on retaining Trevor Timmins' services. Dudley called Timmins an elite scout.

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Seems like Dudley is coming our way then.
He certainly didn't give the answer I expected, which was to say something like...

"I'm currently employed by the Toronto Maple Leafs and it would be inappropriate to address that question..." or something like that.

Seems very likely IMO...he was also full of praise for the job done by Trevor Timmins, who he also worked very closely with in Ottawa when Dudley was GM there.

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Rick Dudley commended Marc Bergevin on retaining Trevor Timmins' services. Dudley called Timmins an elite scout.
I think Dudley is campaigning for a shot.

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I think Dudley is campaigning for a shot.
I don't think he needs to campaign...if Bergevin wants Dudley, it seemed to me like Dudley would jump at the chance, that's for sure.

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I think anyone should be honored and going out of their way to secure a spot on the Habs bench or front office. I mean this IS the biggest franchise in the NHL, and they have a shot to be part of a new era, and be part of the people who put the Canadiens back where they belong, on their path to glory.

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05-03-2012, 11:18 AM
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I think Dudley is campaigning for a shot.
Our Team would go from Good, to Great, to HOLY ****:

TT was the only good thing we had going for us

Bergevin came in and we all have great feeling about him, glowing reviews, etc...

IF Dudley comes in, one of the best talent evaluators in the game and former mentor of Bergevin?

We become HOLY ****, and I am stoked.

Best Case Scenario becomes Pipe Dream Scenario and I'd do a dance.

All we'd be missing is Vigneault and then the Cinderella Dream of a Dream Team Management would be complete.

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I feel bad for Mark French.....

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Our Team would go from Good, to Great, to HOLY ****:

TT was the only good thing we had going for us

Bergevin came in and we all have great feeling about him, glowing reviews, etc...

IF Dudley comes in, one of the best talent evaluators in the game and former mentor of Bergevin?

We become HOLY ****, and I am stoked.

Best Case Scenario becomes Pipe Dream Scenario and I'd do a dance.

All we'd be missing is Vigneault and then the Cinderella Dream of a Dream Team Management would be complete.


I could do without Dudley , but if he comes i won't be like i was (irate)when Gauthier was named GM...lol

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05-03-2012, 11:29 AM
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I'd like to see Blair Mackasey come over too.

Bergevin
Dudley
Mackasey
Timmins

That's a great group of guys with a good eye for talent.

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Our Team would go from Good, to Great, to HOLY ****:

TT was the only good thing we had going for us

Bergevin came in and we all have great feeling about him, glowing reviews, etc...

IF Dudley comes in, one of the best talent evaluators in the game and former mentor of Bergevin?

We become HOLY ****, and I am stoked.

Best Case Scenario becomes Pipe Dream Scenario and I'd do a dance.

All we'd be missing is Vigneault and then the Cinderella Dream of a Dream Team Management would be complete.
If we get Dudley, it would feel like finally we had have some of the best guys out there to run a team. I can't remember the last time i ever felt that. I'm now very confident we will find the best coach for this team.

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05-03-2012, 11:38 AM
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Links to some interviews that Bergevin did today (May 2nd):

L'Antichambre: Part 1, Part 2 (gets very emotional)
Man I teared up. I want to be like him when I grow up.

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05-03-2012, 11:41 AM
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I don't think he needs to campaign...if Bergevin wants Dudley, it seemed to me like Dudley would jump at the chance, that's for sure.
I think it goes both ways. I think Bergevin jumps at the chance to bring Dudley on if he's interested. Make the call!

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05-03-2012, 11:47 AM
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Not trying to be insulting here at all, just genuinely curious as to his background. I watched his press conference on TV and though to myself: "Wow, he's pretty horrible with French for a Quebecer, he must have been living in the US for a long time and lost it" (which happened to my mother, and I totally understand) but now I hear his interview with Duthie and he's got the standard heavy Quebecer accent and common mistakes.

It's a weird mix. What language IS he good at? lol.
Hockey?

That's all that should matter

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watched the AC interview . . .

great, we have a great big crybaby GM . . .



Hopefully he makes alot of other GMs cry

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Burke's got an all star team in the head office of the Leafs. Problem is, GMing isn't actually team sport. There's only one final say each and every time. Dudley's a great hockey mind and I'm sure they respect the hell out of what he says, but in terms of the internal heirarchy he's clearly behind Nonis and then is only one senior voice among many - Poulin, Loiselle.

If I were Dudley I'd want a GM's job, of course, but I'd probably see coming to be AGM in Montreal as a more senior, and thus more interesting job. Frankly adding Bergevin and Dudley and keeping Timmins could give the Habs a truly top-flite head office in terms of talent evaluation. It would be a dream team from that point of view. Someone else clearly needs to specialize in contract and cap issues, because none of these guys are really grounded in that area, but hell.

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Hockey?

That's all that should matter
In hockey culture, eloquence and grammar are hardly assets. Don Cherry didn't become the voice of Canadian hockey because he speaks well, but because he represents a big part of the culture, including bad grammer, bad tense, mangled names and pretty much every other way you can show that you don't give a **** for book learning and pansy ass nice talking. Bergevin does it in both languages.


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Burke's got an all star team in the head office of the Leafs. Problem is, GMing isn't actually team sport. There's only one final say each and every time. Dudley's a great hockey mind and I'm sure they respect the hell out of what he says, but in terms of the internal heirarchy he's clearly behind Nonis and then is only one senior voice among many - Poulin, Loiselle.

If I were Dudley I'd want a GM's job, of course, but I'd probably see coming to be AGM in Montreal as a more senior, and thus more interesting job. Frankly adding Bergevin and Dudley and keeping Timmins could give the Habs a truly top-flite head office in terms of talent evaluation. It would be a dream team from that point of view. Someone else clearly needs to specialize in contract and cap issues, because none of these guys are really grounded in that area, but hell.
Agreed...on the surface, without knowing the how the Leafs front office hiearchy works. I tend to think that the MTL asst GM job might give him more of a voice and profile.

Again, I was surprised to see how frank he was when asked if he would accept to come to MTL to be asst GM to Bergevin.

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Bergevin accepted to invitation for tout le monde en parle

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David Bouchard (on Marc Bergevin): "You have an accent in both languages. Who was your teacher? Jean Chrétien?"

Jokes aside, if anything, the way he talks helps me relate to him better. Take it from someone who's experienced the same thing, losing a part of your mother tongue is embarrassing, and I wouldn't doubt that he's more nervous because of it.

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yes...Tony asked if Bergevin approached him for a job, if he would listen.

Dudley answered yes, seemed receptive to the idea.

Again...for anyone lamenting over Pierre McGuire, listen to what an executive who is currently employed in the NHL and who works for a divisional rival, has to say about Marc Bergevin.
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Hells yes.

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