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05-03-2012, 02:16 PM
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Has The Goat Czar Spoken?

Has Pierre Gauthier spoken to any media in any capacity since he was fired? Has there been any mention of his whereabouts?

I really, really hope he writes a book one day so we can have the inside look at his demented tenure.

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Not that I know of. He's hiding in vermont, I guess.

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They really should have done a 24/7 with Montreal this year... that would have been interesting.

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The guy is just so anti-social, hates the media, isn't a leader, IMO he can't be more than an ast GM, or possible a President of a team in the sense that he isn't the face of the team like a GM should be. He not might be a great hockey guy, but I think he is smarter than some ppl make him seem, the guy has been around the NHL for a long time, I believe I read that he was one of the Quebec scouts that was pushing for Peter Forsberg in the Lindros trade.

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Has Pierre Gauthier spoken to any media in any capacity since he was fired? Has there been any mention of his whereabouts?

I really, really hope he writes a book one day so we can have the inside look at his demented tenure.
Real GMs are a lot more respectful than some brave fans sitting safely behind a keyboard.

The new GM went out of his way yesterday to say that there were some very good pieces in place. Well, that is a testament to the old GM(s) not being totally demented, no?

Grow up, some of you!

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05-03-2012, 02:29 PM
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The guy is just so anti-social, hates the media, isn't a leader, IMO he can't be more than an ast GM, or possible a President of a team in the sense that he isn't the face of the team like a GM should be. He not might be a great hockey guy, but I think he is smarter than some ppl make him seem, the guy has been around the NHL for a long time, I believe I read that he was one of the Quebec scouts that was pushing for Peter Forsberg in the Lindros trade.
jean perron has been around the NHL for a long time as well... nuff said.

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They really should have done a 24/7 with Montreal this year... that would have been interesting.
Would have been a ratings boom.

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The guy is just so anti-social, hates the media, isn't a leader, IMO he can't be more than an ast GM, or possible a President of a team in the sense that he isn't the face of the team like a GM should be. He not might be a great hockey guy, but I think he is smarter than some ppl make him seem, the guy has been around the NHL for a long time, I believe I read that he was one of the Quebec scouts that was pushing for Peter Forsberg in the Lindros trade,
I pity the organization that has the gall to take him on in any meaningful role again.

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Real GMs are a lot more respectful than some brave fans sitting safely behind a keyboard.

The new GM went out of his way yesterday to say that there were some very good pieces in place. Well, that is a testament to the old GM(s) not being totally demented, no?

Grow up, some of you!
Oh spare me.

Gauthier disgraced this organization in every conceivable way this season. By all accounts, he's a megalomaniac control-freak who just happened to "respectfully" trade a player mid-game, lie to his fanbase repeatedly, scapegoat the assitant coach a few games into the season, refuse to tell players where they were dealt, and, best of all, apologize to his fanbase for hiring a new coach.

And you have the actual nerve to chastize me for disdaing him.

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Would have been a ratings boom.



I pity the organization that has the gall to take him on in any meaningful role again.



Oh spare me.

Gauthier disgraced this organization in every conceivable way this season. By all accounts, he's a megalomaniac control-freak who just happened to "respectfully" trade a player mid-game, lie to his fanbase repeatedly, scapegoat the assitant coach a few games into the season, refuse to tell players where they were dealt, and, best of all, apologize to his fanbase for hiring a new coach.

And you have the actual nerve to chastize me for disdaing him.

Ok I agree with all that, but that doesn't make him an idiot in regards to hockey knowledge. Again I'm not saying he is great, but just that he isn't as bad as some ppl make him seem in regards to hockey, ex ppl bashing him because he scouts Gomez, but he also scouted, Gorges, Gill, Hamrlik etc.

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jean perron has been around the NHL for a long time as well... nuff said.
I believe Jean Perron worked for 4-5 years in the NHL as a coach, that was it.

Gauthier started as a scout in 1981, and I believe was head scout of Quebec from 87-to 91 or somthing, 93-95 was Ast GM of the Ducks, 95 to 97 GM of the Sens, 97 to 2002 President and GM of the Ducks, 2003 to 2012 with the Habs....

From 1981 to 2012, that 32 years in hockey, with not more than a year in between jobs. clearly shows that he has some hockey knowledge, but it also shows that he is not a leader, seeing how in those 32 years, he has never won a cup.

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He's playing piano with Bob Gainey.

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Ok I agree with all that, but that doesn't make him an idiot in regards to hockey knowledge. Again I'm not saying he is great, but just that he isn't as bad as some ppl make him seem in regards to hockey, ex ppl bashing him because he scouts Gomez, but he also scouted, Gorges, Gill, Hamrlik etc.

And to Miller Time: I believe Jean Perron worked for 4-5 years in the NHL as a coach, that was it.

Gauthier started as a scout in 1981, and I believe was head scout of Quebec from 87-to 91 or somthing, 93-95 was Ast GM of the Ducks, 95 to 97 GM of the Sens, 97 to 2002 President and GM of the Ducks, 2003 to 2012 with the Habs....
Gauthier has a very long and mostly succesful resumé... But was not made to be GM in Montreal. The guy - even if he is born in Quebec and speaks French- was totally disconnected with the Montreal and Quebec markets... When you prefer to have your main residence in Vermont than in your team's hometown, it must mean something !

Bergevin's wife and children are Americans and they gonna move in Montreal anyway.

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He is busy changing gaineys diapers still.

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Gauthier has a very long and mostly succesful resumé.
Any tangible proof of this?

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Any tangible proof of this?
From what I've read, the strong Avs teams in mid-late 90's, were a core of PG, during his time there, they drafted, Sundin, Nolan, Sakic, Foote, I read that he wanted Forsberg in he Lindros trade.

And the Ducks team that went to finals vs the Devils, the year after PG left, and it was mainly made up of players he brought in.

Again showing that he doesn't have what it takes to build a true winner, but he is no Houle.

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Oh spare me.

Gauthier disgraced this organization in every conceivable way this season. By all accounts, he's a megalomaniac control-freak who just happened to "respectfully" trade a player mid-game, lie to his fanbase repeatedly, scapegoat the assitant coach a few games into the season, refuse to tell players where they were dealt, and, best of all, apologize to his fanbase for hiring a new coach.

And you have the actual nerve to chastize me for disdaing him.
By all accounts? Interesting how that tends to be an expression that doesn't really mean, well, anything. What accounts are these?

A lot of what transpired seems peculiar, certainly. Perhaps even inexplicable. That doesn't change that we're largely getting one side of the story, from a media that we (on this forum) frequently chastise for being unprofessional. Further, this media has numerous reasons to present a biased account of Gauthier: he made their lives difficult.

I don't believe that Gauthier's as miserable as you and others have tried to claim. It's too one-sided, and such miserable incompetent individuals aren't GMs of three franchises with many connections and loyal friends in the NHL.

Frankly, your hostility seems ill-conceived.

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When I think of his tenure, in hindsight:

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From what I've read, the strong Avs teams in mid-late 90's, were a core of PG, during his time there, they drafted, Sundin, Nolan, Sakic, Foote, I read that he wanted Forsberg in he Lindros trade.

And the Ducks team that went to finals vs the Devils, the year after PG left, and it was mainly made up of players he brought in.

Again showing that he doesn't have what it takes to build a true winner, but he is no Houle.
That's like saying Edmonton's front office is a group of geniuses for drafting all these young talented 1st overalls!

As for the Ducks, meh. According to his position, he didn't have much say in their 03 domination. And the Cup winning team was mostly Burke's doing.

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The guy is just so anti-social, hates the media, isn't a leader, IMO he can't be more than an ast GM, or possible a President of a team in the sense that he isn't the face of the team like a GM should be. He not might be a great hockey guy, but I think he is smarter than some ppl make him seem, the guy has been around the NHL for a long time, I believe I read that he was one of the Quebec scouts that was pushing for Peter Forsberg in the Lindros trade.


Forsberg was a no-brainer in that deal as he was the consensus top player in the world outside of the NHL.........he was hardly a secret.

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Forsberg was a no-brainer in that deal as he was the consensus top player in the world outside of the NHL.........he was hardly a secret.
Huh? That doesn't make any sense...Lindros was the consensus top player.

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That's like saying Edmonton's front office is a group of geniuses for drafting all these young talented 1st overalls!

As for the Ducks, meh. According to his position, he didn't have much say in their 03 domination. And the Cup winning team was mostly Burke's doing.
Stop discrediting the guy for no reason. He clearly wasn't a leader or a successful GM but there is a lot to his name. This is the reason why the Montreal fanbase is called obsessive and bi-polar, it's always black or white with you people.

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Not surprised he's been nowhere in sight since he was canned. He knows everyone hates his guts.. Why would anyone purposely stand there and have tomatoes thrown at you???

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The guy was intelligent, no doubt about it.

Main problem? Should never, ever have been a GM, or, more actually, never, ever have been in position where he has to delegate something.

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The guy was intelligent, no doubt about it.

Main problem? Should never, ever have been a GM, or, more actually, never, ever have been in position where he has to delegate something.
I doubt. Sorry. He might have had some strengths in some departments and somehow made some good contacts along the way, but if had was that intelligent, he wouldn't have been such a bad GM.

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Stop discrediting the guy for no reason. He clearly wasn't a leader or a successful GM but there is a lot to his name. This is the reason why the Montreal fanbase is called obsessive and bi-polar, it's always black or white with you people.

Exactly. That's why we hab fans have such a brutal rep. Pretty hard to find a fanbase that has more arrogant and uneducated fans than mtl. We should be the class of the league but that's not the reality of it. So so many actually think they know more about the game than pg. Lol. Sure.

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I am glad that Gauthier is gone (poorly built D squad, Cunneyworth's nomination, lack of organisational fluidity...) but contrary to the majority of posters in here I think he completed more good moves (Cole, Eller, Emelin, Bournival...) than bad one.

Gauthier > Gainey... but that does not mean he was good!

To answer the OP, I have not read or heard anything from Gauthier since his departure... and frankly that's perfectly in sync with his personality.


Edit: lol at The Goat Czar! Good one.


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