Sure, lets just blow it all up and start over because the team has had a bad start to this series.
What if they come roaring back and win the Stanley Cup? Blow it still right, surely there is something not right?
Holy overreaction. This team dismantled the Pens and is having a bit of trouble with a much more defensive club. Did you honestly think they would maintain a 52% PP? They are having a hard time adjusting and aren't moving their feet to engage and win the battles.
But yea, lets just blow it up every year if they don't win the cup. That is clearly the most logical solution to everything. trade Briere? The guy with 107 points in 106 post season points? Hartnell, the guy who is having a lackluster series, but a career year? Couburn, the guy who has dominated physically along the boards all playoffs?
Give your head a shake. The only thing this team needs to do in the offseason is rid themselves of that piss ant Carle and add a stud on the back end. problem solved.
Now step off the ledge, everything will be okay.
Definitely this!
As Dave would say, you have crystallized my thoughts eloquently!
i mean i dont understand this team is passing and dumping and chasing so such, if it's on the coach or the players if it's on the players then lav has to change the lineup, i mean the reason im asking about moving the players is because they are not shooting, they are passing.
No offense (really), but do you know the difference between a coach and a GM? There's only so much a coach can do. The management gives him a limited set of pieces he can work with.
A week ago everyone had a boner just thinking about keeping this team together for the future. Now we're starting threads about how the team is a mess and we should trade everyone and find a new coach? It's hard to win the cup and every round you advance there's a team waiting that wants it more than the last.
Carle needs to go. See what the status is with Pronger, from there figure out how to acquire a defenseman. If Pronger looks done, then try to land Suter. If they cant get him, they try to trade JVR for a young promising defenseman.
A week ago everyone had a boner just thinking about keeping this team together for the future. Now we're starting threads about how the team is a mess and we should trade everyone and find a new coach? It's hard to win the cup and every round you advance there's a team waiting that wants it more than the last.
Overreaction thread of the season.
Well, in all fairness...the "future" is only about 2 years...our roster will look very different then. I guess the big question is are we that ONE big player away from the cup?
Well, in all fairness...the "future" is only about 2 years...our roster will look very different then. I guess the big question is are we that ONE big player away from the cup?
The future won't even be ready until about 3 yrs from now when Couturier and Schenn start coming into their most productive times. The Flyers are a rebuilt defense away from the cup. Sign a big name dman: Suter is available this year, next year Elder, Enstrom and Weber. Trade a young forward for a young defenseman. Fixed.
A week ago everyone had a boner just thinking about keeping this team together for the future. Now we're starting threads about how the team is a mess and we should trade everyone and find a new coach? It's hard to win the cup and every round you advance there's a team waiting that wants it more than the last.
Overreaction thread of the season.
I think it is fair to say that both last week's thread and the one in question here are equal overreactions in different directions. This team is not as good as it appeared based on the comprehensive Game 6 victory against the Penguins, nor is it as bad as it would seem from the past three games.
I would not be opposed to moving one of our young forwards to pick up a similar young defenseman, but we should not be thinking about blowing it up again, IMO.
The future won't even be ready until about 3 yrs from now when Couturier and Schenn start coming into their most productive times. The Flyers are a rebuilt defense away from the cup. Sign a big name dman: Suter is available this year, next year Elder, Enstrom and Weber. Trade a young forward for a young defenseman. Fixed.
This is all potential...jvr was supposed to be scoring 80 goals and ripping grizzly bears in half by now.
Voracek, contract unknown, simmonds and hartnell up after next yr, then G, Schenn, Couts, and then finally briere. Its going to be hard to give everyone a raise...
Basically, do we keep hartnell or not? If not, lots of money. Timonen is up with harts, but I'd rather reinvest that on defense.
The future won't even be ready until about 3 yrs from now when Couturier and Schenn start coming into their most productive times.
Will Schenn and Couturier still be here in 3 years?
Be honest - how big is the Flyers' window to get a Cup with this young core, really? No one wants to face the reality that the cap might not go up and all three of Giroux, Schenn and Couturier will need a contract extension in two seasons. Giroux's new contract will be ridiculous. The chances that one or maybe even 2 of these 3 will be gone is very, very high.
Will Schenn and Couturier still be here in 3 years?
Be honest - how big is the Flyers' window to get a Cup with this young core, really? No one wants to face the reality that the cap might not go up and all three of Giroux, Schenn and Couturier will need a contract extension in two seasons. Giroux's new contract will be ridiculous. The chances that one or maybe even 2 of these 3 will be gone is very, very high.
If we want to keep all 3, we HAVE to keep our 1st round picks in order to get good players on cheap ELC contracts.
They're down 2-1. Good god, calm down. Every team that is still left in the east besides the Flyers trailed their first round series at some point. They're young and still trying to figure out how to bring it everyday.
Haha, well, I didn't say keep everyone and don't change anything, but I'd definitely keep all the new young guys, and try to keep the core intact. I think we just need to keep going at it, and perhaps slightly tweak the lineup by judiciously handling the RFA's and UFA's. Adding a bona-fide #1 defenseman would be great, but even without that I don't think this team is even close to being a mess. The Devils had a single point less than we did, so there's nothing outrageous about being down 2-1.
Will Schenn and Couturier still be here in 3 years?
Be honest - how big is the Flyers' window to get a Cup with this young core, really? No one wants to face the reality that the cap might not go up and all three of Giroux, Schenn and Couturier will need a contract extension in two seasons. Giroux's new contract will be ridiculous. The chances that one or maybe even 2 of these 3 will be gone is very, very high.
Schenn and Couturier won't be getting huge money on their second deals though. Giroux will get paid, but that's why you have to continually have first round talent on entry level deals coming through the system. The defense is the only thing that could potentially hold them back. But even then, they have the trade assets to bring in a young dman.
Will Schenn and Couturier still be here in 3 years?
Be honest - how big is the Flyers' window to get a Cup with this young core, really? No one wants to face the reality that the cap might not go up and all three of Giroux, Schenn and Couturier will need a contract extension in two seasons. Giroux's new contract will be ridiculous. The chances that one or maybe even 2 of these 3 will be gone is very, very high.
Not really. If they continue to develop into what we think they will be they will all be here until UFA. However, it's what can we surround them with that's the problem.
Schenn and Couturier won't be getting huge money on their second deals though. Giroux will get paid, but that's why you have to continually have first round talent on entry level deals coming through the system. The defense is the only thing that could potentially hold them back. But even then, they have the trade assets to bring in a young dman.
Our players have been known to receive healthy raises on their second contracts. It's not a given will lose one of those three players, but it's a fair bet that sacrifices will have to be made somewhere on the roster. Read and Meszaros will also hit free agency at the same time as those three centers.
if this team plays like this until they get eliminated, what can this management do? i mean this team is a mess, besides defense, you see them getting rid of briere?hartnell? jvr? coburn? schenn? i know giroux wont be gone, but i know the management will be doing something, get rid of lav too? if i was management i dont know what solution is of fixing this team to make it better,
if they get rid of the coach, they need to find a coach that knows the trap like torts and in your face type of coach, which i dont know who, i dont understand why didnt get torts anyway, he probably would have gotten us a cup.
i mean what are the solutions out there to make this team better?
the team is a mess? was this meant to be a joke? the team led the league, by far, in rookie scoring. this was supposed to be rebuilding type year, not a cup contending year. beating the pens is great, I didnt even expect that. they are playing with house money. if they go out, i'll be disappointed but it was still a damn good year all things considered
you suggest trading the most clutch playoff performer on the team (possibly in club history), an all star, arguably the best dman, and their brightest rookie. great ideas there
funny how 6 days ago people were making plans for a parade, now people want to blow it up.
I'm glad we look like we have a good future however its gonna be funny watching LA win the cup, looks like the trades have worked great for them as well.
