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ECSF Game 4: Rangers @ Caps. 12:30pm. VC. 5.5.2012 (Ninja Murphy Ringleader thread)

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05-05-2012, 04:30 PM
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Can't decide who's more despondent over the Capitals win today, Ranger fans or the NBC broadcast crew. Geesh, can Doc, Pierre and Eddie be a little less bias please.
How on Earth can someone BE bias? What?

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05-05-2012, 04:37 PM
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Beagle was 5/18 on draws.
Hendricks was 9/9 on draws.

Bizarro world.



Also, out of 55 draws, either Richards or Boyle took 45 of them. And they were each below 50%. What is Tortorella doing/thinking?

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05-05-2012, 04:41 PM
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You know, the more that I watch that Ovechkin hit, the more adamant I am that he should not be suspended. First of all, the notion that Ovie went after Girardi is incorrect. If you watch the play from behind Ovie, he initially slides his left foot out trying to kick the puck to himself with his left skate, while seeing Girardi coming on. He would be a complete idiot to look down at the puck and disregard Girardi, that would be a Mike Green concussion move. Girardi, in the meantime, is clearly anticipating Ovie getting control of the puck and heads toward him. After Ovie misses the puck he does not change directions toward Girardi, but rather continues on his initial path (which was dictated by where he would have gone with the puck). So up to this point this was not Ovie going out of his way to find Girardi. In fact, Girardi is looking at the puck initially, then looks back at Ovie probably thinking he has possession of the puck, and takes a stride with his left foot in the direction he thinks Ovie will go (seen in photo below). This was not a defenseless skater blindsided but rather a guy trying to make a play on Ovie.

That brings us to the hit itself. Ovie's right foot was CLEARLY on the ice at the point of impact. That is not even arguable. So the "leaving his feet" argument holds no water. A very similar hit by Orpik on Skinner comes to mind, where Orpik went airborne AFTER contact. That hit received no supplemental discipline. Also, here, Girardi is skating very low, so I'm not really sure how Ovie avoids the head.



Here are images of the play continued, watch Girardi's low stride toward where he thinks Ovie is going with the puck.




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05-05-2012, 04:43 PM
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First picture seems to clearly show no initial contact to the head, skate on ice...all there is to it.

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05-05-2012, 04:46 PM
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Guess I was wrong. His skate was still on the ground.

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05-05-2012, 04:48 PM
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It's a shame cos I think the controversy is due to the NBC feed....CBC had a replay that clearly and I mean clearly showed the shoulder being hit first.....I wish someone could capture that

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Guess I was wrong. His skate was still on the ground.
Im sorry but he did charge. The video shows that but the pictures show the shoulder to shoulder

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05-05-2012, 04:49 PM
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So far I certainly prefer the Bruins fans.
Gotta say I thought the Bruins fans here were pretty bad for whining about non-calls on some of Marchand & companies dives (among other things..), but Rangers fans here are just awful.

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i am getting sick and tired of these rag fans that are crying and *****ing and moaning about this. Typical rag fans

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05-05-2012, 04:52 PM
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the way to avoid sick and tired is to stay away from where they are. they are not here. forget it.

i see evidence proving ov had a skate down and contact to the shoulder. that means 10 games for ovechkin now and hunter suspended for yapping after the announcement.

ha....fun

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05-05-2012, 04:53 PM
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StapeNewsday: League source says it's highly unlikely Alex Ovechkin will face further discipline for hit on Dan Girardi today. #NYR #WSH

As it should be.

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05-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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Im sorry but he did charge. The video shows that but the pictures show the shoulder to shoulder
Sorry, but again that goes back to the latter photos I posted. Here is the definition of charging.

A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.

Ovie did not charge Girardi. How on earth is it a charge when the opponent thinks you have the puck and is taking a stride toward you? Girardi is just as guilty of charging then, but the difference is he is not as strong as Ovie.

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05-05-2012, 05:07 PM
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You know, the more that I watch that Ovechkin hit, the more adamant I am that he should not be suspended. First of all, the notion that Ovie went after Girardi is incorrect. If you watch the play from behind Ovie, he initially slides his left foot out trying to kick the puck to himself with his left skate, while seeing Girardi coming on. He would be a complete idiot to look down at the puck and disregard Girardi, that would be a Mike Green concussion move. Girardi, in the meantime, is clearly anticipating Ovie getting control of the puck and heads toward him. After Ovie misses the puck he does not change directions toward Girardi, but rather continues on his initial path (which was dictated by where he would have gone with the puck). So up to this point this was not Ovie going out of his way to find Girardi. In fact, Girardi is looking at the puck initially, then looks back at Ovie probably thinking he has possession of the puck, and takes a stride with his left foot in the direction he thinks Ovie will go (seen in photo below). This was not a defenseless skater blindsided but rather a guy trying to make a play on Ovie.

That brings us to the hit itself. Ovie's right foot was CLEARLY on the ice at the point of impact. That is not even arguable. So the "leaving his feet" argument holds no water. A very similar hit by Orpik on Skinner comes to mind, where Orpik went airborne AFTER contact. That hit received no supplemental discipline. Also, here, Girardi is skating very low, so I'm not really sure how Ovie avoids the head.



Here are images of the play continued, watch Girardi's low stride toward where he thinks Ovie is going with the puck.


Attention Washington Post and Washington Times reporters. Please use the information in this post on your blogs.

That is all.

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05-05-2012, 05:09 PM
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Ovechkin was penalized for being a bigger, stronger man. Girardi came in low and took the worst of it. Ovechkin was trying to avoid getting hit.

Caps in 6!

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nice pictures caps man.

after seeing that i think ovi is safe and shouldnt have to go to a hearing.


and typical rangers fans would want to win the series by beating us with our captain out.

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StapeNewsday: League source says it's highly unlikely Alex Ovechkin will face further discipline for hit on Dan Girardi today. #NYR #WSH

As it should be.


Mike Green getting untracked (for him) offensively in the playoffs is a very good thing to see.

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Attention Washington Post and Washington Times reporters. Please use the information in this post on your blogs.

That is all.
lol

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newsday says very unlikely? nice.

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granted i havent paid too much attention to the kings games but backstroms gotta be up there for smythe at this point. shame his points dont reflect his play.
Yeah Backstrom's 6 points in 10 games should have him well positioned for the Conn Smythe, assuming the Caps win the cup of course...

Really dude? Really...?

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05-05-2012, 05:59 PM
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Mike Green getting untracked (for him) offensively in the playoffs is a very good thing to see.
Indeed. He likes to front and keep it subdued but you could tell immediately after how much it meant to him.

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We only got 2, but the power play was pretty awesome today. Had 6 good looks on the first one, and scored the game winner on the 2nd. Kill was also very, very good.

There's a growing special teams advantage in this series, tilted in our favor.

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05-05-2012, 06:06 PM
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Jesus, 55 had 9 blocks today?! That was more than the entire Rangers team.

I thought he had his best game of the playoffs (the Gaborik goal was 100% on Wideman, IMO), but I didn't realize he was that involved in shotblocking.

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Jesus, 55 had 9 blocks today?! .
dale in the post game presser, "He had nine???"

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you can't be serious......... everyone but you and rangers fans think it was just a penalty.
and Coyote fans...FREE RAFFI!

We're just looking for consistency from the league, and not finding it.

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What's usiel's GDT playoff record?
I think I'm at least .500 but I'm too lazy to check/back up that, heh. Maybe because I put some vcash on the game. I give all credit to Murphy and my parental units. Icing and off sides were the parts of the game my poor Mom was having the most difficulty understanding. She watched the entire game though.

Great game though the caps had some serious primo chances in this game. Best of three and another home game guaranteed.

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