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04-19-2012, 10:18 PM
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Anyone recall what the issue he had with Phoenix at the start of the year was about?

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At least he is signed for another season. Don't think he is a 3-4 million dollar player yet, but has the potential to be worth more. Wonder what the hold out was about if according to his agent "it was never about the money" was indeed fact.
The rumour was he was asking for that money just because he knew Phoenix wouldn't sign him for that and trade him. He knew he wasn't worth that money. He just wanted to try anything to get out of the desert. I remember this being discussing in the threads about him.

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04-19-2012, 10:23 PM
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The rumour was he was asking for that money just because he knew Phoenix wouldn't sign him for that and trade him. He knew he wasn't worth that money. He just wanted to try anything to get out of the desert. I remember this being discussing in the threads about him.
the argument was basically: it'll take this much money to get me to play for phoenix.

and the price was outrageous enough to force a trade.

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04-19-2012, 10:47 PM
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Does he always smile when answering questions to the media? Or has he been doing it only since he came to Ott?
I've never seen a player be so obviously thankful to be with a team. Ever interview he gives he talks about how happy he is for the opportunity to be here, how great this group of guys are.

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the argument was basically: it'll take this much money to get me to play for phoenix.

and the price was outrageous enough to force a trade.
Thank you for wording it wwell. Im drunk and it'd hard.

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04-19-2012, 11:00 PM
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I've never seen a player be so obviously thankful to be with a team. Ever interview he gives he talks about how happy he is for the opportunity to be here, how great this group of guys are.
Yea I noticed that too. Good on B.Murr to give players a chance to blossom somewhere else. Kyle seems like a really good fit in our system going forward.

I think he has more offensive upside than that of Fisher when he was here, he just needs to add size and I'll be happy if he's even half of what Fisher was physically.

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04-20-2012, 12:34 AM
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Yea I noticed that too. Good on B.Murr to give players a chance to blossom somewhere else. Kyle seems like a really good fit in our system going forward.

I think he has more offensive upside than that of Fisher when he was here, he just needs to add size and I'll be happy if he's even half of what Fisher was physically.
Fisher had next to no offensive awareness. He played a hard nose north south game with a lot of speed and power but next to no finesse. Turris is much slower and cerebral, picking moments instead of forcing them with strength. His point production might be similar but has a lot more upside to him since he's a straight up smarter player.

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04-20-2012, 01:05 AM
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Fisher had next to no offensive awareness. He played a hard nose north south game with a lot of speed and power but next to no finesse. Turris is much slower and cerebral, picking moments instead of forcing them with strength. His point production might be similar but has a lot more upside to him since he's a straight up smarter player.
I was referring to point production, I guess I could of been more clear. Turris's hockey IQ is much better than Fish'

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04-20-2012, 05:08 AM
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Turris' shot is a million light years better than Fisher's: that will be the biggest difference between the two. I don't think Turris will get that many more point s than Mike did, but his shot is much more dangerous which is something this team has been lacking ever since Heatley left.

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04-20-2012, 05:42 AM
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Turris' shot is a million light years better than Fisher's: that will be the biggest difference between the two. I don't think Turris will get that many more point s than Mike did, but his shot is much more dangerous which is something this team has been lacking ever since Heatley left.
Turris and Fisher are completely different players and not really comparable. Turris has really good hockey sense and should be able to put up more points than Fisher did.

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04-20-2012, 05:50 AM
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I know it's the easy comparison to make because Fisher is our most recent #2 center, but it's a weird comparison to make style wise because they are almost polar opposites. Turris is so cerebral and thinks the game at such a high level (easily the best part of his game) whereas Fisher was just a straight up beast with almost no hockey IQ when he was at his best.

I expect Turris' career high to beat Fisher's, but 50-some points a season is nothing to sneeze at either.

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04-20-2012, 06:51 AM
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It owns seeing Turris talk about how much Maclean's words of confidence meant to him. What a far cry from last year with the way Clouston communicated with the team

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I know it's the easy comparison to make because Fisher is our most recent #2 center, but it's a weird comparison to make style wise because they are almost polar opposites. Turris is so cerebral and thinks the game at such a high level (easily the best part of his game) whereas Fisher was just a straight up beast with almost no hockey IQ when he was at his best.

I expect Turris' career high to beat Fisher's, but 50-some points a season is nothing to sneeze at either.
Production-wise, I dont know if Turris will beat Fisher, or beat him by much. He will be limited by being the 2nd line centre and we dont have a lot of talent at the moment to populate a 2nd PP unit.

I think what makes Turris a better replacement is his skill level is higher. Turris could be a number one centre for 10-20 games if Spezza was hurt. Fisher would really struggle with that and the offence would suffer to a much greater degree.

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I think Turris is just happy to get the chance. He might or might not have gotten it in Phoenix this year, but if I had that talent and was being scratched or put on the 4th line instead of Boyd Gordon and the other centers they have, hell I'd be pissed too.

At least it worked out for them too as they get Vermette, who fits their system much better.

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04-20-2012, 09:48 AM
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So sick...

It also feels good defending Turris against...Trent was it? before and after the trade.
Well, his point was that it wasn't good asset management at the time IIRC. Not that Turris was necessarily a bad player.

You were a pretty big Rundblad supporter, I'm surprised you weren't on his side.

In any event, I'm still pleased with the deal, though when I first heard it, I was a bit nervous.

I still think that you can't manage a hockey team simply by trying to keep the optimum number of depth players at each position. Sometimes you have to make a deal happen even if it weakens you in one area and it strengthens you in another.

I think trent was worried about our defensive depth going forward, particularly with our 3 old men in the top 5.

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04-20-2012, 09:58 AM
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the argument was basically: it'll take this much money to get me to play for phoenix.

and the price was outrageous enough to force a trade.
Was there any elaboration as to why he wanted out of Phoenix?

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Was there any elaboration as to why he wanted out of Phoenix?
I think he felt like the coach wasn't letting him play his game

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05-03-2012, 10:14 PM
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Just noticed how big a jump in point production Kyle had with the sens this year. (29 in 49 vs. 25 in 65 in his last full season with the yotes).

Any predictions for his numbers next season?

Depending on who his linemates are, 55 points with 20 goals doesn't seem out of the question to me.

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Well, his point was that it wasn't good asset management at the time IIRC. Not that Turris was necessarily a bad player.

You were a pretty big Rundblad supporter, I'm surprised you weren't on his side.

In any event, I'm still pleased with the deal, though when I first heard it, I was a bit nervous.

I still think that you can't manage a hockey team simply by trying to keep the optimum number of depth players at each position. Sometimes you have to make a deal happen even if it weakens you in one area and it strengthens you in another.

I think trent was worried about our defensive depth going forward, particularly with our 3 old men in the top 5.
I felt the same way. I was and am glad that we got Turris, but I felt we traded too much for a player in his position. It is possible for the player you traded for work out well but still pay too much for him, which is the case with Turris in my opinion.

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Just noticed how big a jump in point production Kyle had with the sens this year. (29 in 49 vs. 25 in 65 in his last full season with the yotes).

Any predictions for his numbers next season?

Depending on who his linemates are, 55 points with 20 goals doesn't seem out of the question to me.
I'd say he got those points just with his skill alone. If he really works on his strength, he'll get around 65-70 next year, that's if Alfie comes back.

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I'd say he got those points just with his skill alone. If he really works on his strength, he'll get around 65-70 next year, that's if Alfie comes back.
If he got that next year id be pretty happy

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65-70 points is pretty unlikely, at least for next season.

Hitting 50 would be a great step forward in his development. He's going to be a terrific player down the road, but there's lots to learn before he has a shot at breaking the 60-point barrier.

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If Turris broke 50 pts next season i'd be thrilled. It'd be a huge step in his development.
I'm not even gonna say what I'd feel if he scored 60+ because lets be real, there's NO way he does, unless he both has a major breakout seasons and plays way above expectations PLUS he's thrust into the number 1 centre position for a large portion of the season with 20min + every game because of a Spezza injury.

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Turris with 70 points would be the best player in the NHL by far. He's already one of the best defensive forwards, to improve by 25-30% would be just completely sick.

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Turris with 70 points would be the best player in the NHL by far. He's already one of the best defensive forwards, to improve by 25-30% would be just completely sick.
That is incredibly inaccurate.

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He was great for us this season. Would like to see him use his shot more.


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