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05-07-2012, 10:50 AM
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Just for fun...

EK tweeted it was a UFA D-man this summer..

Blues have two that would fit in this situation, Jackman and Colaiacovo.

Id assume it would be for Jackman. However still probably 99% false.
Still fun to dream
So an impending ufa, is gonna be a key to a major deal?


How often does that happen?I can't recall that happening ever.

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05-07-2012, 11:00 AM
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So an impending ufa, is gonna be a key to a major deal?


How often does that happen?I can't recall that happening ever.
LOL - I dont disagree - and as I said 99% false probably

However, if there was ANY truth to it, I assume it would have to be a sign and trade...

but this would mean it would have to happen before July 1 otherwise Edm could just sign him for nothing...

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05-07-2012, 11:24 AM
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Why would the Oilers give up the first for a UFA? Why would they for Jackman? makes no sense, as I do not consider either of the 2 UFA's to be "big time".

On top of this, the Blues are real weak in defenseman as it is (no prospects) and why are the NYI even involved then?

My take... It's not a UFA, and it is a Blues defenseman, as unlikely as it is....

Islanders deal for Shattenkirk, then package him and their pick for the first and a spare change player (Oilers at 49 contracts right now)
I know the Oilers liked Shattenkirk a lot, and would fit very nicely in the line-up with such a young team.

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05-07-2012, 11:44 AM
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sounds like the isles want the 1st and the 4th overall....


Why aquire a "big time" dman and then trade him when we have trouble geting anyone to sign here and our biggest neeed is defense..Eklund just made himself look like a jackass....The Isles NEED a bigtime dman and I dont see them getting rid of one that they were lucky enough to get
While I agree Eklund is an idiot, the reason for the Isles to flip a dman would be that he is out of the team's budget. Big time dman = big time salary. The Isles would much rather put in a kid with a low salary and high cap hit.

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05-07-2012, 12:04 PM
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While I agree Eklund is an idiot, the reason for the Isles to flip a dman would be that he is out of the team's budget. Big time dman = big time salary. The Isles would much rather put in a kid with a low salary and high cap hit.
Were going to have money to spend to get to the cap floor this offseason, and a big time salary would offset losing Rolston, Eaton, Jurcina, maybe Parenteau and others to Free Agency

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05-07-2012, 12:15 PM
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Why would the Oilers give up the first for a UFA? Why would they for Jackman? makes no sense, as I do not consider either of the 2 UFA's to be "big time".

On top of this, the Blues are real weak in defenseman as it is (no prospects) and why are the NYI even involved then?

My take... It's not a UFA, and it is a Blues defenseman, as unlikely as it is....

Islanders deal for Shattenkirk, then package him and their pick for the first and a spare change player (Oilers at 49 contracts right now)
I know the Oilers liked Shattenkirk a lot, and would fit very nicely in the line-up with such a young team.
Shattenkirk would cost alot and then package that with what you would send EDM I think it would be a crazy overpayment for the Isles...


Plus Shattenkirk is a young top 4 defensman with all star potential, you dont give that away if your the Blues...


If the Isles got Shattenkirk I would keep him and be more willing to deal Striet. You would probably get more in that case....


EDM wants the Same thing that the NYI want.....Young players with big time potential.....Jackman helps in the short term but EDM and NYI have a ways to go....

I take everything Eklund says with a grain of salt so he said that the defenseman in question is a UFA, in that case it would have to be a sign and trade. If EDM wants Jackman why not give a 6th round pick to STL for his rites and Keep the first and draft Yakupov.....This whole thing makes no sense and as a Die hard Islanders fan Im tired of this, use another team for your rumors Eklund I cant take this anymore....

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05-07-2012, 12:19 PM
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One has to assume that Tavares, Okposo, Strome, Nino, de Haan, Hamonic, Streit, Grabner, Bailey, Neilsen, Donovan, Moulson are all off the table.

Could they be thinking one of the two goalies Poulin or Nilsson?

Bottom line, I dont think this is happening.

Its Eklund.

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05-07-2012, 12:23 PM
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Well, what if Garth is trying to get Yakupov AND either one of Murray or Dumba, assuming they are there.

To EDM:
Calvin De Haan
Casey Cizikas
NYI 2nd

To NYI:
1st overall
28 other teams in the league will put a better package for the 1st than that.

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One has to assume that Tavares, Okposo, Strome, Nino, de Haan, Hamonic, Streit, Grabner, Bailey, Neilsen, Donovan, Moulson are all off the table.

Could they be thinking one of the two goalies Poulin or Nilsson?

Bottom line, I dont think this is happening.

Its Eklund.
WOW....Poulin and Nilsson had not even crossed my mind....

Hopfully EDM see's some Rinne in Nilsson.....

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ugh mentioning Colaiacovo or Jackmen as pieces for the number 1 pick is ridiculous

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05-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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If the Isles really do obtain a top defenseman from another team (like Pietrangelo from STL for example), there's no reason why they would trade him away for the first overall pick. Just keep Pietrangelo and thank you very much...

this doesn't make any sense

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05-07-2012, 12:43 PM
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If the Isles really do obtain a top defenseman from another team (like Pietrangelo from STL for example), there's no reason why they would trade him away for the first overall pick. Just keep Pietrangelo and thank you very much...

this doesn't make any sense
Pietrangelo is Untouchable, unless the NYI offer Tavares....


Thats not happning

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One has to assume that Tavares, Okposo, Strome, Nino, de Haan, Hamonic, Streit, Grabner, Bailey, Neilsen, Donovan, Moulson are all off the table.

Could they be thinking one of the two goalies Poulin or Nilsson?

Bottom line, I dont think this is happening.


Its Eklund.
Sure wouldn't be happening with all those guys off the table...

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Sure wouldn't be happening with all those guys off the table...
Exactly.....


Everyone has a price....




Except for Tavares and Hamonic

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Pietrangelo is Untouchable, unless the NYI offer Tavares....


Thats not happning
You're basically saying the same thing as me...

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I imagine everyone will be calling to ask about that 1st overall and see what it would take.

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The Latest from Eklund!!!

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I keep hearing more regarding this possible deal. The Islanders will try to use their offensive talent to wrangle a d-man from elsewhere (some say St. Louis) to include in the deal with Edmonton. The obvious next question is, "Why would the Islanders not just keep that D-man for themselves?"

My source tells me the Isles are targeting a UFA d-man to fill their void. A very big time UFA d-man.

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That guy is so terrible. LOL

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Ryan Suter would be the only Dman up for FA this summer that would fit that description and as far as most of us know he is only interested in a team that is a contender.

This description does not match either of the Isles or the Oilers.

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Why would the Oilers give up the first for a UFA? Why would they for Jackman? makes no sense, as I do not consider either of the 2 UFA's to be "big time".

On top of this, the Blues are real weak in defenseman as it is (no prospects) and why are the NYI even involved then?

My take... It's not a UFA, and it is a Blues defenseman, as unlikely as it is....

Islanders deal for Shattenkirk, then package him and their pick for the first and a spare change player (Oilers at 49 contracts right now)
I know the Oilers liked Shattenkirk a lot, and would fit very nicely in the line-up with such a young team.


If Snow is able to land a young,blueline talent like Shattenkirk,Isles will be keeping him.
He'd immediately be on their 1st pairing.

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The Latest from Eklund!!!

On the Islanders and Oilers

I keep hearing more regarding this possible deal. The Islanders will try to use their offensive talent to wrangle a d-man from elsewhere (some say St. Louis) to include in the deal with Edmonton. The obvious next question is, "Why would the Islanders not just keep that D-man for themselves?"

My source tells me the Isles are targeting a UFA d-man to fill their void. A very big time UFA d-man.

I don't know what is funnier...

#1.That the Isles will convince a bigtime,ufa defenseman to sign with them.

#2.That Wang is opening his checkbook for that bigtime,ufa defenseman.

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I don't know what is funnier...

#1.That the Isles will convince a bigtime,ufa defenseman to sign with them.

#2.That Wang is opening his checkbook for that bigtime,ufa defenseman.
Maybe Bettman is pushung him to with an incentive. Maybe Bettman will sign off on Brooklyn or get further involved in the Arena Negotiations if Wang promises to increase the payroll.

Or Wang will look increase the value of the team by making them a competitive team.

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Maybe Bettman is pushung him to with an incentive. Maybe Bettman will sign off on Brooklyn or get further involved in the Arena Negotiations if Wang promises to increase the payroll.

Or Wang will look increase the value of the team by making them a competitive team.
Lets be real for a second. Neither of those are close to happening

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Maybe Bettman is pushung him to with an incentive. Maybe Bettman will sign off on Brooklyn or get further involved in the Arena Negotiations if Wang promises to increase the payroll.

Or Wang will look increase the value of the team by making them a competitive team.
Both Bettman and Wang have indicated, that nothing will be happening with the team until 2015.

What exactly can Bettman do to help negotiations?Nassau County's finances are a mess.Unless the NHL is floating the county a loan,I doubt county pols care about what Bettman thinks or says

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Both Bettman and Wang have indicated, that nothing will be happening with the team until 2015.

What exactly can Bettman do to help negotiations?Nassau County's finances are a mess.Unless the NHL is floating the county a loan,I doubt county pols care about what Bettman thinks or says
Bettman said that the Isles will not be in the Coliseum past 2015. IMO, if he did say anything, he said something along the lines of "Go out with a bang Charles"

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