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05-03-2012, 06:56 PM
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Wilson is not assuredly gone. He barely shaves, just barely legal to drink - in other words, still a raw kid. Not saying I oppose the kinda' deal you're proposing, just saying I don't believe it's foregone conclusion he's gone, and given that, it won't be as part of an overpayment.

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05-03-2012, 07:31 PM
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Boston has a huge glut of centers. Seguin and Bergeron are their top 2, and Krejci is a waste as a 3rd center. Plus have Peverly, Kelly, and Campbell.

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldnt. I think those 3 pieces are worth more to them that Krejci and Ference, but the latter two are worth more to us.
This is probably why i'm looking at is as a Win for the Preds.

Although it has potential to be a HUGE win for the Bruins down the road.

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05-03-2012, 07:38 PM
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This is probably why i'm looking at is as a Win for the Preds.

Although it has potential to be a HUGE win for the Bruins down the road.
Of course it does, but I just think its a win-win. I also think we shouldn't underestimate how much Ference would help our blue line. If the Preds lose AK, Rads, and Suter, we will need help if we want to make the playoffs, and, RIGHT NOW, Krejci >>> Wilson and Ference > Ellis. Long term? Ellis will be better. But the preds get better today.

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05-03-2012, 07:48 PM
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boston wouldn't do that deal imo

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05-03-2012, 07:50 PM
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boston wouldn't do that deal imo
Every one of their fans on the trade boards has approved. Of course, that's different than the team, but still.

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Every one of their fans on the trade boards has approved. Of course, that's different than the team, but still.
yeah sorry I meant their GM chiarelli or however you spell it..

not sure if ellis fits their mold.. then you are giving up krejci for wilson who still has alot to prove. loads of talent though. then suter's right.. sounds great and all but would he sign in boston?

id do that deal for sure though

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05-03-2012, 07:57 PM
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I wonder if Suter would even sign in Boston. He wants to win, but I think part of him wants to be the number 1 guy somewhere. If he leaves he I don't think he would want to go to a team with Chara.

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yeah sorry I meant their GM chiarelli or however you spell it..

not sure if ellis fits their mold.. then you are giving up krejci for wilson who still has alot to prove. loads of talent though. then suter's right.. sounds great and all but would he sign in boston?

id do that deal for sure though
If you remember, there was a deal worked out where we would trade ellis for Boston's 1st (9th overall) to draft Couturier if he was still there. Boston likes Ellis.

Wilson went to BU, so he knows the city.

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05-03-2012, 07:59 PM
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Wilson went to BU, so he knows the city.
This is why I think Bruins fans agree to this deal

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05-03-2012, 09:41 PM
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If you remember, there was a deal worked out where we would trade ellis for Boston's 1st (9th overall) to draft Couturier if he was still there. Boston likes Ellis.

Wilson went to BU, so he knows the city.
totally forgot about that .. interesting. maybe it could be worked out. im in favor of the deal. now just call poile and chiarelli and get them to start the paperwork

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05-07-2012, 10:56 PM
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UFA:

A. Kostitsyn
Gaustad
Tootoo
Yip
McGrattan
Suter
Gill
Bouillon

RFA:

Radulov
MacLellan
S. Kostitsyn
Wilson
Weber
Hillen
Lindback

(Roster players)

Team only has $20 million to the same Cap hit as right now.

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05-08-2012, 08:26 AM
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Pulling this thread back up because I have a new plan based on a trade Boston fans just agreed to on the trade boards.

I'm assuming AK and Rads are gone

If suter wants out: Krejci+Ference for Wilson+Ellis+Suter's rights
Sign as UFA- Carle (or Kubina or Grossman or Wideman, take your pick)

Roster still with almost 6 million left to sign more wingers...which would need to happen. Badly.

FORWARDS
Craig Smith ($0.900m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Martin Erat ($4.500m)
Gabriel Bourque ($0.618m) / David Legwand ($4.500m) / Sergei Kostitsyn ($3.500m)
Patric Hornqvist ($3.083m) / Mike Fisher ($4.200m) / Matt Halischuk ($0.713m)
Michael Latta ($0.773m) / Nick Spaling ($1.050m) / Brandon Yip ($0.725m)
Brian McGrattan ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.000m) / Roman Josi ($1.000m)
Matt Carle ($4.438m) / Andrew Ference ($2.250m)
Kevin Klein ($1.350m) / Jonathon Blum ($0.827m)
Teemu Laakso ($0.709m) /
GOALTENDERS
Pekka Rinne ($7.000m)
Anders Lindback ($0.715m)
BUYOUTS
J.P. Dumont ($1.333m) / Brett Lebda ($0.467m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $58,500,625; BONUSES: $480,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $5,799,375
As a Flyer fan I can tell you, Carle will be looking (and may get) 5M+ per year. Behind Suter, he might the one of the most sought after D-men this summer. He is not worth that type of money. He isn't a PP QB, he doesn't have much of a shot, he's basically a nothing special top 4 NHL defender (closer to a #4 than a top pairing guy). He doesn't have size and gets pushed around way too easy. Makes a ton of mistakes in his own end. I pity the team that signs him to what he wants, Ville Leino comes to mind.

Also, the Flyers have already extended Grossman so he's off the market. You could probably get Kubina, but the question would be, why? He's on his last legs and can't skate. The Flyers are starting a rookie (Gustafasson) and Lilja over him in the playoffs. He's about as done as they get.

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05-08-2012, 08:37 AM
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boston wouldn't do that deal imo
Definitely not. Seguin has never really played center and he's terrible in faceoffs, so it's not worth the risk for Chia to gamble on him centering the first line. Bergeron isn't good enough for that role either. With Horton close to becoming the next Savard, you won't see us trading a big name forward.

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