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05-08-2012, 11:14 PM
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The season is done
what a painful way to end
Carle will-resign

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1) A physical center. Cooter is not yet a man sized guy and Schenn is like Richards, he gets worn down
2) A back up goalie - Bob is not it, he is our best trade bait
3) A healthy JVR - because we do not know what we have until he is healthy
4) 1 more Behind Kicker on D - Grossmann is big and strong but we need some MEAN

Lose Carle, trade Bob, do not pay Jagr more than 2.5 mm$, drop Shelley

Another center? They already have Giroux, Schenn, Briere and Couturier as natural centers, and Talbot and Read can play it too. How many of these guys are you going to push to the wings?

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The Devils looked like they were 6-5 the entire series.

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Lol no more haikus...that was so round 1.

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05-08-2012, 11:31 PM
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Who expected Couturier to emerge into a shutdown ace in his first season?
Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.

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05-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
Everyone was invisible this series. it wasn't cause they didn't try or put forth effort. The devils just played style of hockey that was superior to our own style and dominated us in every facet of the game.

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Lol no more haikus...that was so round 1.
Haha, what was good enough for game 2 mourning isn't sufficient for elimination, eh?

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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
Nothing but negativity from you. Coots has been nothing but the best defensive forward on this team.

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05-08-2012, 11:50 PM
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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
No, I'm basing it on his progress during the season, highlighted by his performance in the playoffs, especially vs the Pens.

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jvr experiment is over! esp when he makes more than g

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No, I'm basing it on his progress during the season, highlighted by his performance in the playoffs, especially vs the Pens.
the guy is only going to get better. he hasnt even grown into his body yet. if you want someone to bash please bash jvr.

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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
mr invisible prob plays with more heart and grit then you ever will. he is also injured.

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05-09-2012, 01:47 AM
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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
dude, go hang out with JXC or something. some of your crap is pathetic.

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It is insane how some regular season players literally just disappeared in this playoff run.
All those players who set career highs couldn't keep up production and steadily began to regress to averages.


That's also going to be the theme of next season. Hartnell and Talbot exceeded their shooting percentages greatly (guys like Hartnell who had more goals than assists are a red flag to me). Combined, I think they'll regress by about 15 goals, so, assuming they're both here, bad years from Briere and JVR need to make that up.

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All those players who set career highs couldn't keep up production and steadily began to regress to averages.


That's also going to be the theme of next season. Hartnell and Talbot exceeded their shooting percentages greatly (guys like Hartnell who had more goals than assists are a red flag to me). Combined, I think they'll regress by about 15 goals, so, assuming they're both here, bad years from Briere and JVR need to make that up.
I would imagine Talbot regresses. Hartnell was purely a function of PP chemistry with Giroux IMO.

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05-09-2012, 06:56 AM
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Shutdown ace? Really? Based on one playoff series?

Calling him a shutdown ace is as ridiculous as Lavy proclaiming Giroux "the best player in the world," based on a career year and one playoff series. Anyone else who has been given that label didn't get it based on a career year and one playoff series.

Giroux was more like The Invisible Man after this series.
No like based off the whole season bro.

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I would imagine Talbot regresses. Hartnell was purely a function of PP chemistry with Giroux IMO.
Looking back on it , i believe the team over achieved significantly.

im going to write more about this later, but something to consider is all the injuries and rookies we had, compared to all the breakout years players had across the board. It was very fortunate.

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Nothing but negativity from you. Coots has been nothing but the best defensive forward on this team.
I'm just frustrated after watching this series and the inability of Lavy to adapt or make a change to his system. Dale Hunter did it in Washington, Lavy can't come up with something other than Rinaldo trying to be a wrecking ball?

Agree Coots was our best defensive forward, but shutdown ace is a little over the top. You don't become an ace because of one playoff series. I remember Gionta & Gomez (Montreal) shutting down Pitt & Wash top lines in back to back series in the playoffs a couple years ago. They weren't shutdown aces either.

John Madden was a shutdown ace for years, but didn't get that label after one year and one playoff series.

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No like based off the whole season bro.
Just the season and not the Pens series?

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dude, go hang out with JXC or something. some of your crap is pathetic.
dude, if you think someone earns the label "shutdown ace" & "best player in the world" based on one season and one playoff series, fine. No need to call me names because I believe those designations should come after a little more accomplishment than what Coots & Giroux did to supposedly earn them.

Relax.

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I'm just frustrated after watching this series and the inability of Lavy to adapt or make a change to his system. Dale Hunter did it in Washington, Lavy can't come up with something other than Rinaldo trying to be a wrecking ball?

Agree Coots was our best defensive forward, but shutdown ace is a little over the top. You don't become an ace because of one playoff series. I remember Gionta & Gomez (Montreal) shutting down Pitt & Wash top lines in back to back series in the playoffs a couple years ago. They weren't shutdown aces either.

John Madden was a shutdown ace for years, but didn't get that label after one year and one playoff series.
He was shutting people down all season, and then did a damn fine job against the 2011/2012 seasons best player.

Sometimes the other team just plays better. The Devils were committed from top to bottom, and they did enough to beat the Flyers.

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Just the season and not the Pens series?
The Pens series was apart of the season.

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It is insane how some regular season players literally just disappeared in this playoff run.
It was the first taste for a lot of guys. I love the core of this team. That said you need everyone to step up come playoff time and that didnt happen, and give the devils credit too, they taught us a lesson

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dude, if you think someone earns the label "shutdown ace" & "best player in the world" based on one season and one playoff series, fine. No need to call me names because I believe those designations should come after a little more accomplishment than what Coots & Giroux did to supposedly earn them.

Relax.
What's so extreme about "shutdown ace" exactly that an entire regular season of play + playoffs can't even bring you close to earning such an amazing label? He's not calling him THE shutdown ace of the NHL or anything, lol.

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jvr experiment is over! esp when he makes more than g
this.

he's still way to soft for being a guy 6'3. i understand the injuries and all that, but if the flyers wanna bring in a defenseman they should trade him for one

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