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Which UFA D Do You Want If No Suter?

View Poll Results: Which UFA D Do You Want If No Suter?
Justin Schultz 33 38.82%
Dennis Wideman 18 21.18%
Jason Garrison 19 22.35%
Matt Carle 6 7.06%
Brad Stuart 11 12.94%
Barret Jackman 21 24.71%
Sheldon Souray 5 5.88%
Bryce Salvador 5 5.88%
Bryan Allen 6 7.06%
Milan Jurcina 0 0%
Hal Gill 11 12.94%
Greg Zanon 8 9.41%
Filip Kuba 5 5.88%
Joe Corvo 4 4.71%
Other (Write In) 4 4.71%
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05-09-2012, 09:37 AM
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If 44 retires and Carle leaves (JVR++ traded for Weber), is it possible we could get Suter AND Webber?

Suter/Weber/Coburn/Grossman/Mez/Boudron/Gus.

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05-09-2012, 09:41 AM
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If 44 retires and Carle leaves, is it possible we could get Suter AND Webber?

Suter/Weber/Coburn/Grossman/Mez/Boudron/Gus.
If they lose Suter they won't trade Weber until they have to IMO, and they're going to want a blue chip defenseman heading back to them.

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05-09-2012, 09:42 AM
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If the team seriously can't pick up Suter/Weber, I don't feel that great about next year at all.

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If they lose Suter they won't trade Weber until they have to IMO, and they're going to want a blue chip defenseman heading back to them.
Rights to Carle?

Do you think that NSH would match a crazy offer sheet on Weber?

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If 44 retires and Carle leaves (JVR++ traded for Weber), is it possible we could get Suter AND Webber?

Suter/Weber/Coburn/Grossman/Mez/Boudron/Gus.
Sign Suter now. Wait for Timonen to retire next year. Sign Weber then.

See. Simple.

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Sign Suter now. Wait for Timonen to retire next year. Sign Weber then.

See. Simple.
I love getting delusional after being knocked out of the postseason. In my mind, we have already won the Cup next year (even if Bryz scores one goal per game against himself).

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05-09-2012, 10:36 AM
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i think if the flyers want webber they will give jvr, coburn and two first round picks for webber and sign a cheaper scoring defensemen and a good winger that's a shooter to replace jagr.

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05-09-2012, 10:36 AM
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I think Souray would come cheap, he's not top 4 worthy but would be that big heavy shot we need. Other than him(and obviously Shultz) I think the rest will be overpaid or not worth it.

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I think Souray would come cheap, he's not top 4 worthy but would be that big heavy shot we need. Other than him(and obviously Shultz) I think the rest will be overpaid or not worth it.

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Too much required of the top-4, in my opinion. And when an injury strikes, we're screwed.

MAB can bring a decent shot from the point, if he makes the squad. Souray really doesn't add much, IMO. Rather sign someone like Jackman who can anchor a 3rd pairing or play top-4 minutes without a defensive drop off.

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i think if the flyers want webber they will give jvr, coburn and two first round picks for webber and sign a cheaper scoring defensemen and a good winger that's a shooter to replace jagr.
We are not trading coburn. That would be subtraction from an area of weakness.

And it's weber. Not webber.

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Too much required of the top-4, in my opinion. And when an injury strikes, we're screwed.

MAB can bring a decent shot from the point, if he makes the squad. Souray really doesn't add much, IMO. Rather sign someone like Jackman who can anchor a 3rd pairing or play top-4 minutes without a defensive drop off.
Jackman is a decent fallback plan. Our problem is WR have a number of 3-4s already and a bunch of 4-6s. We need a 1/2.

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If I'm this Shultz kid, I might wait to sign depending on the CBA talks....he might get paid more and have earlier UFA status.
But, I'm sending whoever I can to talk to the kid...

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Jackman is a decent fallback plan. Our problem is WR have a number of 3-4s already and a bunch of 4-6s. We need a 1/2.
I agree, but ain't nobody on that list a 1/2.

Schultz is a nice prospect, but literally all 30 teams will be after him, and there's no bidding war to be won. It is his choice, and I'm not overly optimistic.

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Could Shultz step in and fill a top 4 role? I honestly haven't seen him play but I know the hype surrounding him. If the Flyers could promise him top 4 minutes, on a championship contender team, I wonder if that could entice him.

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I agree, but ain't nobody on that list a 1/2.

Schultz is a nice prospect, but literally all 30 teams will be after him, and there's no bidding war to be won. It is his choice, and I'm not overly optimistic.
There isn't really a bidding war now, because there is a max he can get (and he will get that). The Flyers are a premier destination in the NHL. Always competitive, fans fill the stadium, guys get paid here, ect.

Unless he has his mind set on playing somewhere else (a hamhuis) we have a chance.

If I were a player in his situation I'd want NHL playing time, money, and a winning team. We can offer all that.

I'd never go somewhere like EDM or TOR as they are today if I had a choice.

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The answer to this poll is Schultz and I am surprised that it isn't more of a landslide.

Young, high potential defenseman to pair with our group of forwards? No brainer.

The trouble is that he is governed not by traditional UFA rules, but rather subject to an ELC, which caps what we and everyone else can offer. Basically, it's not about who offers him the best contract, but rather the team that offers him the best opportunity and/or the team/city/system he is most comfortable playing in. We would probably need to assure him a top 4 spot to be competitive in the bidding, but we have a lot going for us to draw him in.

Other than Schultz, there are a few decent names out there, but none that are worth getting stuck in a longterm deal with.

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Schultz/Wideman/Gill

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Weber would be nice here

If they don't want a trade, then offer sheet him.

10 years 7.5m per.
7.5 requires compensation of 1 1st rounders, a 2nd & a 3rd. They have to be the teams own picks.
TB owns our 2nd in either from the trade for Mez. We'd need to get that back.

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If you can't get Suter you keep Carle. Who is really better than him on that list?

I would like Schultz, but you can't expect him to walk right in and play top 4 minutes.

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None of the above.

EDIT: Didn't see Justin Schultz. I'd want him.


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Zanon if we have no money
Jackman if we do have it and have no where to spend it. He gets hurt a lot though, doesn't he?

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Had to go Wideman. All around D man.
I think I'm the only person here that got your sarcasm. In the future, just add the

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Like I said in another thread. If the cap goes up to 69 million like Homer thinks it will. Getting Suter isn't out of the question because to come to the Philly team that is always a contender would be a place a player would want to sign long term because that player knows this team will contend every year. A long term deal on this team should be a dream contract. Outside of Suter, I would sign Carle if he signs a hometown discount for around 4.2 a season, sign Gill and trade Mez.

Suter/Carle
Coburn/Grossmann
Kimmo/Gill

That right there is an amazing group.

To answer this question it would be Gill.

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