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List of candidates for Assistant GM's and Coach Part VIII

View Poll Results: Your choice for next HC
Marc Crawford 23 16.67%
Bob Hartley 47 34.06%
Michel Therrien 11 7.97%
Patrick Roy 49 35.51%
Guy Carbonneau 8 5.80%
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05-09-2012, 08:20 AM
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With Quenneville and Vigneault no longer in the running, I would like to have Lemaire. I really don't want to go down the road of Hartley or Crawford.
No way Lemaire. I hate martin since day one, but i was relieve when then announced him over lemaire.

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Well we do know Chicago Blackhawks fire assistant coach Mike Haviland today.‎


We do know 100% Joel Quenneville will be back behind Hawks bench next season .


SO , could we hire Mike Haviland as asst coach ,and have him wear a Joel Quenneville sock puppet behind the bench?

I'm sure Marc Bergevin is considering .
What do you mean by Quenneville's puppet? It was essentially Quenneville who fired Haviland because they weren't on the same page.

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Groulx has a great track record as a junior coach, he is known to be very demanding and a disciplinarian. I wonder if his iron fist would work with pros though. I would like to see him as an assistant though and potentially groomed as the "next in line".
I'd rather see us give him the Bulldogs head coach job. Assistant coaches rarely ever succeed when they become head coach of the same team where they were assistant coach. It's a totally different relationship with players.

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05-09-2012, 08:24 AM
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Roy - Coach
Groulx - Assistant-coach

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Not at all.
Why not?

So we can make the mistake of going with a "has-been" just because he has NHL coaching experience, then watch another team hire Roy as head coach and he flourishes and then we're left thinking shoulda woulda coulda..

There aren't any real strong candidates with coaching experience available at this time.

If Roy is willing, why not give him the shot??

This isn't at all like the Gretzky thing.. Roy has been paying his dues in the Q for several yrs now with an excellent track record. As a person, his passion and will to win are unquestionable, and he is part of the habs alumni, in essence, he is a living legend, not only in Montreal but in the NHL.

Also, just having Roy as coach, will definitely create a much welcomed buzz around the team and city to start the season, after last year's nightmare, it will be like a breath of fresh air and create something we haven't had in awhile.. excitement.


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Why not?

So we can make the mistake of going with a "has-been" just because he has NHL coaching experience, then watch another team hire Roy as head coach and he flourishes and then we're left thinking shoulda woulda coulda..

There aren't any real strong candidates with coaching experience available at this time.

If Roy is willing, why not give him the shot??

This isn't at all like the Gretzky thing.. Roy has been paying his dues in the Q for several yrs now with an excellent track record. As a person, his passion and will to win are unquestionable, and he is part of the habs alumni, in essence, he is a living legend, not only in Montreal but in the NHL.

Also, just having Roy as coach, will definitely create a much welcomed buzz around the team and city to start the season, after last year's nightmare, it will be like a breath of fresh air and create something we haven't had in awhile.. excitement.
I think Roy would flourish short term, simply because the team is better than last year's record, especially if Bergevin makes a few solid moves to plug some holes adding a bit of depth plus the lustre of a new coach...BUT I think he isn't a great team player, needs a lot of control, I think that would create issues within the front office. Plus his being very emotional could lead to some bad trades, having to dump player X because he and Roy no longer can operate together.

I know every coach will have his fans and detractors within the room, but with Roy because of his personality will be that much more polarising.

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Hartley and Crawford had won one SC each

Therrien went to the Finals against a very strong Wings team

Roy has won 4 cups as goaltender, 1 Memorial Cup as a coach

Carbo has won 3 Cups as a player and a perennial Selke Trophy + the only 100 points + Habs season in the last decade.


Nothing "terrible" there.

And all these guys can coach in a Montreal media and fans frenzy environment.
Hartley and Crawford have not been NHL coaches in a long time.

Therrien was a terrible coach.

Roy is a sociopath who will quit on the team the minute he isn't happy (already did it once).

Carbo? CARBO? He was the ********* coach we've had in a long time. He was beyond terrible.

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I think Roy would flourish short term, simply because the team is better than last year's record, especially if Bergevin makes a few solid moves to plug some holes adding a bit of depth plus the lustre of a new coach...BUT I think he isn't a great team player, needs a lot of control, I think that would create issues within the front office. Plus his being very emotional could lead to some bad trades, having to dump player X because he and Roy no longer can operate together.

I know every coach will have his fans and detractors within the room, but with Roy because of his personality will be that much more polarising.
maybe thats why you surround him with players that will balance him out.
Guys like Groulx, Carbo, Robinson, Chelly, Desjardins. Carbo is a great assistant coach, but clearly he could not handle HC duties. Groulx would be great for the youngsters, Robinson has coaching experience in spades and I think can be a calming influence.

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Hartley and Crawford have not been NHL coaches in a long time.

Therrien was a terrible coach.

Roy is a sociopath who will quit on the team the minute he isn't happy (already did it once).

Carbo? CARBO? He was the ********* coach we've had in a long time. He was beyond terrible.
He also got us 1st in the east and had the most exciting habs team in the last 15 years.
He wasn't as bad as some ppl want to believe, by the same token he wasn't as good as some others want to believe.

Carbo is not made for HC duties but assistant would be perfect.

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Hartley and Crawford have not been NHL coaches in a long time.

Therrien was a terrible coach.

Roy is a sociopath who will quit on the team the minute he isn't happy (already did it once).

Carbo? CARBO? He was the ********* coach we've had in a long time. He was beyond terrible.
Great biased analysis...

Way to go, man !



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From what I've read, would it be accurate to describe Roy as a players coach?

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From what I've read, would it be accurate to describe Roy as a players coach?
I dunno in which extent Molson, and now Bergevin, want to have rookies at GM and headcoaching positions to start next season....

Of course, good assistants at both levels could help.


With the Nordiques far far away now, I guess Roy will think seriously about Montreal's job.

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The only coach from the Q I'd like right now is Houle, but he's not experienced at all, so in fact, I don't want him.. right now.

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Great biased analysis...

Way to go, man !


This is so ironic coming from you.

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The only coach from the Q I'd like right now is Houle, but he's not experienced at all, so in fact, I don't want him.. right now.
Groulx is head and shoulders above Houle.

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I dunno in which extent Molson, and now Bergevin, want to have rookies at GM and headcoaching positions to start next season....

Of course, good assistants at both levels could help.


With the Nordiques far far away now, I guess Roy will think seriously about Montreal's job.
I wasn't asking about wanting a rookie coach, I was asking about his coaching style.


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I am probably in the minority but, I would love to see Ted Nolan behind the bench. He may not be fluent in french (but he does know a little french). He couldn't be worse then Roy on the tantrum scale, and has at least shown he can coach teams to play hard and play solid.
I agree that he's probably the best available coach out there. The problem is he seems to create drama. He did great in New York until he didn't want to rebuild. He did take them to the playoffs and they haven't been there since and have been in a major tailspin since.

He won't even get a sniff though so its a moot point.

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I wasn't asking about wanting a rookie coach, I was asking about his coaching style.




I agree that he's probably the best available coach out there. The problem is he seems to create drama. He did great in New York until he didn't want to rebuild. He did take them to the playoffs and they haven't been there since and have been in a major tailspin since.

He won't even get a sniff though so its a moot point.
Nolan again ? Are you kidding ?

How many headcoaching jobs have been made available throoughout the WHOLE NHL in the last 10-15 yeard and WERE NOT given to Nolan ?

It should tell you somethoing about the guy....

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Nolan again ? Are you kidding ?

How many headcoaching jobs have been made available throoughout the WHOLE NHL in the last 10-15 yeard and WERE NOT given to Nolan ?

It should tell you somethoing about the guy....
You should learn to read better. Both your replies to my posts were completely off tangent. I said I don't want him because of drama and that we won't even consider him.

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Time is ripe for #Habs to reclaim Larry Robinson. Devils contract expires after playoffs, his work w/ young D would be priceless

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Seeing what he did with NJ's underwhelming defense, I say Big Bird has to be a priority for Bergevin and his future coach.

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Time is ripe for #Habs to reclaim Larry Robinson. Devils contract expires after playoffs, his work w/ young D would be priceless

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Seeing what he did with NJ's underwhelming defense, I say Big Bird has to be a priority for Bergevin and his future coach.
wow I had no idea that he was back behind the bench. I can't see him making a lateral move here though, especially after their deep run right now.

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wow I had no idea that he was back behind the bench. I can't see him making a lateral move here though, especially after their deep run right now.
Or maybe?


Entendu sur les ondes de TSN 990, Cape a aussi avancé que Robinson ne lorgnait pas un travail d'entraîneur-chef dans la LNH, mais qu'il aimerait revenir à Montréal dans un environnement où la victoire est cruciale.

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All the hopes I had for this team from the hirings of Bergevin and Dudley would be completely destroyed if we hire Hartley or Crawford as a coach.

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wow I had no idea that he was back behind the bench. I can't see him making a lateral move here though, especially after their deep run right now.
That goes for Parise as well.........Lou will have him signed asap.

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Wouldn't mind a Roy, Groulx & Robinson combo.


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All the hopes I had for this team from the hirings of Bergevin and Dudley would be completely destroyed if we hire Hartley or Crawford as a coach.
Why Crawford?

Bergevin and Crawford, it is reported have an excellent relationship...I think it's important for the GM and coach to have the same vision and approach.

We've watched what a disconnect between management and the coaching staff does in Montreal.

Given we have a new GM, i'm less interested in the previous record of the impending coach, i'm more interested in seeing if the coach can apply the vision the GM has in place.

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