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05-09-2012, 01:06 AM
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Kimmo gives his 110% every shift.

Game 4, after the third goal was scored, they showed a pic of Bryz just look devastated, but Timonen's whole heart was on his face. You could tell he knew possibly his last chance at a cup was slipping away.

I really want him back next year. Even if round 2 Timonen is here to stay, I say place him on the second or third pairing.

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05-09-2012, 01:15 AM
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why u dump a jvr or danny b
Danny B is a flyer for life. no trade clause, he is very close with all his teammates especially Couturier, and Giroux for obvious reasons.


JVR trade would be stupid since his value is very low.

Lets put him on a line with Giroux next year, let him rack up some points and then see what his value is.

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05-09-2012, 01:17 AM
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Danny B is a flyer for life. no trade clause, he is very close with all his teammates especially Couturier, and Giroux for obvious reasons.


JVR trade would be stupid since his value is very low.

Lets put him on a line with Giroux next year, let him rack up some points and then see what his value is.
id be willing to deal with jvr for another year but im pretty sure he'll never pan out here

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05-09-2012, 04:22 AM
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Apparently he hurt his knee pretty badly in the Pens series and played through it after.

If there is one Finn in the NHL i would like to see winning the cup next year its Kimmo. He is one of my favourite players ever. The guy just works his ass off and gives everything to the team.

Sadly, i think he already had his chance against the Hawks. He has 1 good year left in him if he recovers from the injury, but i agree that +20 mins is starting to get too much. He is 37 yrs old already and have hinted in the last couple of years that he is starting to get tired.

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id be willing to deal with jvr for another year but im pretty sure he'll never pan out here
Under Lavy im going to have to agree.

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05-09-2012, 05:40 AM
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id like to see the flyers take a Tim Duncan approach to Kimmo's playing time.

The spurs are not concerned with the regular season, they use that time to develop there bench and get guys in familiar roles. when the postseason comes along they up Timmy's minutes and so forth, as oppose to the regular season when they sit him for games at a time.


Id like to see us do this with Kimmo. It would be a great chance to get some of the younger D men some minutes such as Manning, who i was impressed with while affording Kimmo time to allow his body to recover. Then come playoff time we have a healthy rested Kimmo and more depth at D.

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05-09-2012, 06:00 AM
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There are few players I feel for more than Kimmo, he has the heart of a warrior and deserves a Cup. I saw a pic of him on Facebook on the bench just devastated with Giroux putting his hand on his shoulder.

Limit his minutes, keep him on the roster. Wish we could get 3 more out of him.

Here's a crappy version of the pic:

Good post. Pic shows how much Kimmo cares...

I would prefer to have him come back. his cap hit hurts but his intangibles make it worth it for one more season...

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There are few players I feel for more than Kimmo, he has the heart of a warrior and deserves a Cup. I saw a pic of him on Facebook on the bench just devastated with Giroux putting his hand on his shoulder.

Limit his minutes, keep him on the roster. Wish we could get 3 more out of him.

Here's a crappy version of the pic:

That picture breaks my heart. Those 2 are the best part of the Flyers and Kimmo's probably thinking it's the end for him while Roo is blaming himself for them losing because of the suspension.

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Although Bryz didn't mean it this way.. the way he sorta seemed to "laugh off" his bad play, resulting in a goal really pissed me off... especially with kimmo's comments about him running out of chances.

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ugh we'll still have lilja
Lilja is fine as the 6th/7th defenseman.

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id like to see the flyers take a Tim Duncan approach to Kimmo's playing time.

The spurs are not concerned with the regular season, they use that time to develop there bench and get guys in familiar roles. when the postseason comes along they up Timmy's minutes and so forth, as oppose to the regular season when they sit him for games at a time.


Id like to see us do this with Kimmo. It would be a great chance to get some of the younger D men some minutes such as Manning, who i was impressed with while affording Kimmo time to allow his body to recover. Then come playoff time we have a healthy rested Kimmo and more depth at D.
It's what they need to do, but with Pronger's injury, and a need to replace Carle, they need to bring someone else in to be able to do that. The younger guys may be ready for a chance to play, but not top 4 minutes. I guess you could try Gus in the Top 4 with Mez to start the year, but I don't know.

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I just hope Homer makes a big offseason move for defense so that Timonen doesn't have to kill himself every night next season. If Homer gets the right personnel, Kimmo will be back. If not...I'm not sure what he'll decide to do.

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Timonen says he got a knee ligament injury in Game 5 vs Pittsburgh
I want to know the severity of the injury. Let him heal up and hopefully he comes back strong for next year.

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If Homer gets the right personnel, Kimmo will be back. If not...I'm not sure what he'll decide to do.
During season Kimmo told in finnish interview that he may have 2 years left in his tank.

If NHL goes to lock-out and shortened regular season like NBA, it will help him. Not so many games and still will play his 1000th regular season game.

I hope he resigns summer 2013, 2-4mill and third/second pair Dman. If he doesn't resign, hoping he'll sign to other team and win the Cup.

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There are few players I feel for more than Kimmo, he has the heart of a warrior and deserves a Cup. I saw a pic of him on Facebook on the bench just devastated with Giroux putting his hand on his shoulder.

Limit his minutes, keep him on the roster. Wish we could get 3 more out of him.

Here's a crappy version of the pic:

This is an incredibly heart breaking picture.

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Kimmo was the first player I thought of when they lost last night. If there's a current player in the league that deserves a cup, it would be him. In his five years here, he's worked as hard and played through as many injuries as any player that I've seen play here. I hope he comes back, but with a limited role. Gone are the days where he can play 30 mins a night, but he can be a very effective second pair guy.

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There are few players I feel for more than Kimmo, he has the heart of a warrior and deserves a Cup. I saw a pic of him on Facebook on the bench just devastated with Giroux putting his hand on his shoulder.

Limit his minutes, keep him on the roster. Wish we could get 3 more out of him.

Here's a crappy version of the pic:

Sometimes it's hard to feel for athletes making millions of dollars playing a game they love.

This is not one of those times. That picture hurts.

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05-09-2012, 10:21 AM
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i'd give it 40/60 odds he retires...I think he's leaning towards coming back especially since this team will have another shot at the cup next year most likely but his body has really taken a toll. I really hope he stays and we don't run him into the ground again.

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I said it before the season. Under Lavys system the D's will be injured and the team will look worn out. This is a punishing system on the d-men and I am surprised Kimmo made it this far honestly. Its an intense system that needs its youth and endurance to work out. The Flyers have too many people on the wrong end of their careers.

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He was playing hurt, I think ever since the Pens series.
he was playing hurt in March when Mez went down

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Timonen is a warrior. He's awesome and I've loved what he's done for us. I hope he recovers healthy.

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I think he'll play next year(hopefully in a reduced role seeing 2nd pairing minutes) and retire after next year. He's just not what he used to be.
You don't pay a guy 6+ million to play a reduced role and 2nd pairing minutes. As much of a warrior he is, his cap hit is not justified at this point. He needs to retire.

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05-09-2012, 12:08 PM
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Screw everyone saying Timonen should retire. The guy is a warrior. Plays through every injury imaginable. He was obviously playing hurt in the playoffs and it hurt his performance a bit but that still doesn't change the fact that he was still one of our best defenders throughout the season. He deserves to be able to play the last year of his contract because he has been worth every penny we've given him. This team without Kimmo loses a huge veteran presence. He is the heart of that defensive core and without him we lose a lot. Not only that but he's one of our best offensive defensemen. Who's supposed to fill that role?

I'm not sure why this is even a thread right now. The team is young enough as is. We need guys like Kimmo on this team and I don't see why they wouldn't just let him play the final year of his contract for a chance at the cup.

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You don't pay a guy 6+ million to play a reduced role and 2nd pairing minutes. As much of a warrior he is, his cap hit is not justified at this point. He needs to retire.
Kimmo is definitely worth his cap hit...

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