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Habs Have Interest in Trading for Evander Kane (e3)

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05-10-2012, 03:38 PM
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So you would trade two top 5 picks for Max Paccioretty?
First, we are only offering one top 5 pick. No way Montreal is in the bottom five next year unless injuries devastate them again.

Yes, Evander Kane is worth 2 1st round picks. So is Pacioretty. In all honesty, I would NOT trade Pacioretty for the 3rd overall and another unknown 1st rounder.

I would definitely like to get Evander Kane in Montreal, but the assets it would require would be too much for us to give....unless Winnipeg would go for something around Plekanec, Beaulieu, and our 2012 2nd (which is almost a 1st). I just don't see Winnipeg accepting that deal, even if the value is fair because Kane is so good and necessary for their continued development.

Quality needs quality.

Would you trade Pacioretty for the 3rd overall this year and some unkown 1st rounder next year? Think about it.

In all honesty, a trade around Evander Kane would need someone like Subban or equivalent going the other way.

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Not really.... one is 23 and the other is 21 and both are 30 goals scorer...
And by age 23, Kane will have three 30 goal seasons, and then there will be a difference.

Regardless, Kane is the more dynamic player and I would pick him 10 time out of 10 over Paccioretty.

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05-10-2012, 03:43 PM
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And by age 23, Kane will have three 30 goal seasons, and then there will be a difference.

Regardless, Kane is the more dynamic player and I would pick him 10 time out of 10 over Paccioretty.
I disagree with you but thats ok i don't see how Kane is Much better then Paccioretty... I could play that game also and saying that Paccioretty will be a 40 goals scorer for the next decade while Kane will be a 30 goals scorer.

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I disagree with you but thats ok i don't see how Kane is Much better then Paccioretty... I could play that game also and saying that Paccioretty will be a 40 goals scorer for the next decade while Kane will be a 30 goals scorer.
See, you're biased because you're a Canadiens fan. I'm nonbiased because I have absolutely zero vested interest in either the Habs or the Jets. You don't see how Kane is better than Paccioretty because Patches is your player.

mod edit - It's not at all a stretch to say that when Kane is Paccioretty's current age, he'll have three 30 point seasons. It is a giant stretch to say that Paccioretty will have 10 seasons of 40 goals.

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Well, anybody would be interested in Kane, for sure. I'd cheerfully trade the #3 overall plus our 2013 1st for him. And work hard to make sure the 2013 pick isn't in the top 10.

But if I was in Winnipeg, I'd pass on that offer.

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See, you're biased because you're a Canadiens fan. I'm nonbiased because I have absolutely zero vested interest in either the Habs or the Jets. You don't see how Kane is better than Paccioretty because Patches is your player.

But your counter is idiotic. It's not at all a stretch to say that when Kane is Paccioretty's current age, he'll have three 30 point seasons. It is a giant stretch to say that Paccioretty will have 10 seasons of 40 goals.
Here to agree with this post. While I might be slightly biased against the Canadiens, and think Max Pac is a quite a player, I, currently, would take Kane over him without a whole lot of doubt. Just IMHO.

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Im sure they do.....I also heard that theres about 29 teams that have interest in Stamkos and Malkin.....


Jets would not do this.....

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Kane is 20, not 21.

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Kane is worth no more then the 3rd overall pick. Any ad on wouldn't be overly significant. Is Evander playing on the top line? If hes worth two high firsts then i definitely hope Kulemin rebounds next year, because they are extremely comparable players.
So much stuff in this

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I doubt there is any team in the NHL that woudln't be interested IF Evander Kane were available. But I really don't see why the Jets would trade him. He develops nicely and fits into their age profile.

Plus: what do the Habs have that the Jets would want? No idea. So pretty much BS IMO. Unless Kane asked for a trade to MTL. And I see slim to no chances for that.

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I'm sure 28 other teams are, too.

If Pacs and Kane are both 30ish goal scorers I'd take Kane. A lot tougher and more physical.

Eklund posting crap to get hits. People still buy it.

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Somone really needs to press Eklund and let him know its wrong to say somthing and never talk about it again.


I would like to know whats going on with that deal that would give the Isles a "very big time" Dman...HAHAHA

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For two 1st round picks? Not a chance.

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Here to agree with this post. While I might be slightly biased against the Canadiens, and think Max Pac is a quite a player, I, currently, would take Kane over him without a whole lot of doubt. Just IMHO.
and thats fine. I mean Kane is a very good player who hits a lots and provide a lots of energy to his team but saying that he his MUCH better then the 4th best EV goal scorer in the NHL last year is a bit strechy... And i LOVE KANE.

Ask the leaf fan how it works trading 2 first round pick in a row for a good young player....

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What are people smoking?... Kane is a winger that went 4th overall, not a franchise player. He will grind you out 30 goals a year. Kulemin and Pacioretty are similar players to Kane. Not sure what the infatuation with him is...

Lets see...

Lets compare their best seasons...

Kulemin

82GP 30G 27A 57P +7 26PIM

Pacioretty

79GP 33G 32A 65P +2 56PIM

Kane

74GP 30G 27A +11 53 PIM

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What are people smoking?... Kane is a winger that went 4th overall, not a franchise player. He will grind you out 30 goals a year. Kulemin and Pacioretty are similar players to Kane. Not sure what the infatuation with him is...

Lets see...

Lets compare their best seasons...

Kulemin

82GP 30G 27A 57P +7 26PIM

Pacioretty

79GP 33G 32A 65P +2 56PIM

Kane

74GP 30G 27A +11 53 PIM
The difference is that Kulemin did it at 24. Pacs did it at 23. Kane did it at 20

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And by age 23, Kane will have three 30 goal seasons, and then there will be a difference.

Regardless, Kane is the more dynamic player and I would pick him 10 time out of 10 over Paccioretty.
Maybe he might or maybe like Patches he will only play 52 games next season and 37 games the next than Kane wouldn't have three 30 goal seasons at 23.

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What are people smoking?... Kane is a winger that went 4th overall, not a franchise player. He will grind you out 30 goals a year. Kulemin and Pacioretty are similar players to Kane. Not sure what the infatuation with him is...

Lets see...

Lets compare their best seasons...

Kulemin

82GP 30G 27A 57P +7 26PIM

Pacioretty

79GP 33G 32A 65P +2 56PIM

Kane

74GP 30G 27A +11 53 PIM
Kulemin? He is 25, coming off of a 7 goal season. He has gotten more than 16 goals once.

And you are comparing him to Kane, who is 20 years old, has never had less than 14 goals in a season, who has improved every year in the NHL, and is much more physical.

Wow.

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05-10-2012, 04:08 PM
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What are people smoking?... Kane is a winger that went 4th overall, not a franchise player. He will grind you out 30 goals a year. Kulemin and Pacioretty are similar players to Kane. Not sure what the infatuation with him is...

Lets see...

Lets compare their best seasons...

Kulemin

82GP 30G 27A 57P +7 26PIM

Pacioretty

79GP 33G 32A 65P +2 56PIM

Kane

74GP 30G 27A +11 53 PIM
Both Kane and Patches are > Kulemin.
Kulemin doesn't belong in the same discussion when it comes to Kane and Patches.

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Kane > Patches >>>>>> Kulemin in my opinion.

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two first round picks and one of them is a 3rd overall for Kane? That's a huge overpayment


Ha....not at all. The Habs are hoping to God that that the 3rd overall is at least comparable to Kane. Jets laugh off this deal.

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What are people smoking?... Kane is a winger that went 4th overall, not a franchise player. He will grind you out 30 goals a year. Kulemin and Pacioretty are similar players to Kane. Not sure what the infatuation with him is...

Lets see...

Lets compare their best seasons...

Kulemin

82GP 30G 27A 57P +7 26PIM

Pacioretty

79GP 33G 32A 65P +2 56PIM

Kane

74GP 30G 27A +11 53 PIM
My problem is with this kind of comparison, if Kane's best was 33 goals 3 years from now (he's 20, not 21), then we could draw comparisons. Or if Pacioretty had 30 at age 20 and 33 last year at 23. Kane is expected to progress as well as Patches, and as a BIASED observer like alot of Hab fans here (I loved Kane as a Giant), I'd say his ceiling is higher. Patches has had 3 extra years to develop, and the fact they are both close is a testiment to what Kane is expected to be. I like Pacioretty a lot, but Kane, not only as a sentimental favorite, but as objectively as I can be, has more value, as they are both young, high potential players, he is younger and has more potential IMHO.

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29 teams have interest in trading for Evander Kane.

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Ha....not at all. The Habs are hoping to God that that the 3rd overall is at least comparable to Kane. Jets laugh off this deal.
No one can say how good the 3rd overall pick will be.
Don't forget we're also hoping our 1st next season might also be as good as Kane.
Habs Pass as we are hoping our pick becomes a true top 1st line center.
.Kane was a 4th overall.Our 3rd overall could become as good or God forbid better than Kane and we still keep our 1st rd next season to boot.

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29 teams have interest in trading for Evander Kane.
Yeah, I forgot to mention this.

ELC cap hit, 30 goal season, better then average physical and defensive play, leadership qualities, and young and improving...asking price would be nuts though.

Patches isn't on an ELC, but a cheap contract, the same will be said for him too.

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