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05-11-2012, 02:03 PM
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THIS!! ^^ Although I can proudly at the moment say, i took a risk of $100 on the Kings the day of game 1 v. Vancouver, and locked it at 22/1, literally just for fun, thinking to myself, if they get ousted, whatever its a $100, but if they ACTUALLY win it all, that will pay for all the playoff games i went to, and all the games i went to this season and last lol
IMO, that's the ONLY and most fun time to make those bets, either pre-season, or early on. Best odd of course.

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05-11-2012, 02:10 PM
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IMO, that's the ONLY and most fun time to make those bets, either pre-season, or early on. Best odd of course.
low risk, HIGH reward!!

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05-11-2012, 02:13 PM
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This great offensive team was last in the league in offense most of the year. They've been really hot for a decent amount of games but I wouldn't be surprised to see their offensive game disappear playing Smith.
Let's put this "LA has trouble scoring goals" line of thinking to rest, shall we?

LA's goal-scoring since the trade deadline:

2/21: 4-5 vs PHX
2/22: 1-4 vs COL
2/25: 4-0 vs CHI
2/27: 1-2 vs NAS
2/28: 4-0 vs MIN
3/03: 4-2 vs ANA
3/06: 5-4 vs NAS
3/08: 1-3 vs COL
3/09: 3-4 vs DET
3/11: 3-2 vs CHI
3/13: 5-2 vs DET
3/16: 4-2 vs ANA
3/17: 4-2 vs NAS
3/20: 5-2 vs SJ
3/22: 1-0 vs STL
3/24: 2-4 vs BOS
3/26: 0-1 vs VAN
3/28: 3-0 vs CAL
3/30: 4-1 vs EDM
3/31: 3-4 vs MIN
4/02: 2-0 vs EDM
4/05: 5-6 vs SJ
4/07: 2-3 vs SJ

70 goals in 23 games is 3.04 goals per game.

To put that in contrast with the playoffs, LA has scored 27 goals in 9 playoff games, exactly 3.00 goals per game.

That doesn't look like a team that has trouble scoring goals.

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05-11-2012, 02:17 PM
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This great offensive team was last in the league in offense most of the year. They've been really hot for a decent amount of games but I wouldn't be surprised to see their offensive game disappear playing Smith.
Unless Terry Murray becomes the head coach again, I don't see that happening.

Seriously, do people not know that the Kings made HUGE changes to their team late in the season that directly led to their new offense? This isn't just a streak. It's an entirely new team.

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05-11-2012, 02:18 PM
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LA's goal-scoring since the trade deadline:

2/21: 4-5 vs PHX
2/22: 1-4 vs COL
2/25: 4-0 vs CHI
2/27: 1-2 vs NAS
2/28: 4-0 vs MIN
3/03: 4-2 vs ANA
3/06: 5-4 vs NAS
3/08: 1-3 vs COL
3/09: 3-4 vs DET
3/11: 3-2 vs CHI
3/13: 5-2 vs DET
3/16: 4-2 vs ANA
3/17: 4-2 vs NAS
3/20: 5-2 vs SJ
3/22: 1-0 vs STL
3/24: 2-4 vs BOS
3/26: 0-1 vs VAN
3/28: 3-0 vs CAL
3/30: 4-1 vs EDM
3/31: 3-4 vs MIN
4/02: 2-0 vs EDM
4/05: 5-6 vs SJ
4/07: 2-3 vs SJ

That doesn't look like a team that has trouble scoring goals.
Dude, they are all going to have something stupid to say... plain and simple... NSH offense... 2.89 or whatever, went MIA, but LA's MIA offense showed up, and still, they have something to say about it. cuz scoring at a 3 goal a game pace, IS A FLUKE OVER the 30 games(including playoffs), right???!!!!!! lol


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05-11-2012, 02:25 PM
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Dude, they are all going to have something stupid to say... plain and simple... NSH offense... 2.89 or whatever, went MIA, but LA's MIA offense showed up, and still, they have something to say about it. cuz scoring at a 3 goal a game pace, IS A FLUKE OVER the 30 games(including playoffs), right???!!!!!! lol
Scoring over 3 goals per game after 32 games MUST be a fluke.

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05-11-2012, 02:27 PM
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Let them keep thinking the Kings can't score.

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05-11-2012, 02:33 PM
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Let's put this "LA has trouble scoring goals" line of thinking to rest, shall we?

LA's goal-scoring since the trade deadline:

2/21: 4-5 vs PHX
2/22: 1-4 vs COL
2/25: 4-0 vs CHI
2/27: 1-2 vs NAS
2/28: 4-0 vs MIN
3/03: 4-2 vs ANA
3/06: 5-4 vs NAS
3/08: 1-3 vs COL
3/09: 3-4 vs DET
3/11: 3-2 vs CHI
3/13: 5-2 vs DET
3/16: 4-2 vs ANA
3/17: 4-2 vs NAS
3/20: 5-2 vs SJ
3/22: 1-0 vs STL
3/24: 2-4 vs BOS
3/26: 0-1 vs VAN
3/28: 3-0 vs CAL
3/30: 4-1 vs EDM
3/31: 3-4 vs MIN
4/02: 2-0 vs EDM
4/05: 5-6 vs SJ
4/07: 2-3 vs SJ

70 goals in 23 games is 3.04 goals per game.

To put that in contrast with the playoffs, LA has scored 27 goals in 9 playoff games, exactly 3.00 goals per game.

That doesn't look like a team that has trouble scoring goals.
Debatable. Daniel Sedin was injured in most of those games.

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05-11-2012, 02:33 PM
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Daniel came back for game 4, when the series was already 3-0. No margin for error by the time he was back.

I'm saying try to beat a healthy Blues team with Bernier in net and Doughty out for a game and playing hurt the rest of the time. See, perspective...
It doesn't matter who played or not.
We could even have the Hot Dog salesman in goal and would even win.

We just dominated the Canucks and the Blues.
There was no need for Doughty or Quick.

There was not a single minute these 2 teams could even go close to our pace.

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It doesn't matter who played or not.
We could even have the Hot Dog salesman in goal and would even win.

We just dominated the Canucks and the Blues.
There was no need for Doughty or Quick.

There was not a single minute these 2 teams could even go close to our pace.
You're sounding almost as bad as those people who are saying LA won becaues of luck

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05-11-2012, 03:16 PM
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You're sounding almost as bad as those people who are saying LA won becaues of luck
Overconfidence breeds smugness unfortunately. It makes the fall hurt all that much more.

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05-11-2012, 03:23 PM
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Because Mike Smith has been so amazing in these playoffs, I think the series is a complete pick 'em. Either goalie has the chance to steal the series and lead his team to the finals. Can't wait for this to start on Sunday

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You're sounding almost as bad as those people who are saying LA won becaues of luck
Nobody in this thread said that.

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Because Mike Smith has been so amazing in these playoffs, I think the series is a complete pick 'em. Either goalie has the chance to steal the series and lead his team to the finals. Can't wait for this to start on Sunday
Agreed. And considering I think that either team could easily win, the fact that Phoenix has much higher paying odds would make them an easy choice for me to bet on if I were interested in "playing the odds."

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Agreed. And considering I think that either team could easily win, the fact that Phoenix has much higher paying odds would make them an easy choice for me to bet on if I were interested in "playing the odds."
I think what it comes down to is Mike Smith. If he comes down to earth, I think Pheonix is toast. LA has more room for error IMO. Their system is a recipe for success regardless if Quick is super human. Quick in top form makes the Kings unstoppable.

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Nobody in this thread said that.
Ummm...

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I think people are trying to put it in perspective. Yes, Kings fans have reason to be excited about their WCF appearance, but when they trash on their previous opponents, they should also understand that quite a bit of luck played into where they are today.
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Wow, bet heavily against the Kings.

Not saying they can't win, but with league parity what it is, you'd be crazy to bet on them

They beat an injury-neutered Vancouver and an inexperienced St Louis team so far...
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As unstoppable as they've looked in the first two rounds, they were pretty lucky too. Canucks did not have Daniel Sedin for the first 3 games and Kesler was playing injured too. Also, the Blues did not have Halak and their number 1 dman Pietro was playing with a concussion.
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They should be the favorites. They knocked off the 1 and 2 seeds and are 8-1, the best record. That is what the public sees and what the big money in L.A. sees, so the heavy bets, which determine odds are on the Kings.

What might not be as visible is the 5 or 6 soft goals against back up goalies, 4 short handed goals, and 3 empty net goals.

It took me like 30 seconds to find these. I'm sure there are more. There are certainly more if you look outside this thread.

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As unstoppable as they've looked in the first two rounds, they were pretty lucky too. Canucks did not have Daniel Sedin for the first 3 games and Kesler was playing injured too. Also, the Blues did not have Halak and their number 1 dman Pietro was playing with a concussion.

Theyre grossly overlooking a Phoenix team that took out Chicago and Nashville because theyre a team that lacks star power aside Shane Doan.

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Now I've heard every excuse in the book. St. Louis, one game away from the President's trophy, got swept because they were inexperienced???
Maybe he was saying inexperienced when it comes to the playoffs, I'm not sure. Which is true, to a degree, I think, although you do have a couple of Stanley Cup winners, however, the rest of them never even in the playoffs/past the first round.

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Maybe he was saying inexperienced when it comes to the playoffs, I'm not sure. Which is true, to a degree, I think, although you do have a couple of Stanley Cup winners, with the rest of them never even in the playoffs/past the first round.
But is that a reason to dismiss the Kings' victory as less than stellar? It's a horrible reason to downplay another team's success.

"Sure, you swept the #2 seed, but they were inexperienced."

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Theyre grossly overlooking a Phoenix team that took out Chicago and Nashville because theyre a team that lacks star power aside Shane Doan.
Almost every Kings fan on this entire website knows it's going to be a difficult series. You'd know that if you bothered to, you know, actually pay attention to what Kings fans are saying. Instead, you read Kings fans excited about their team actually doing something and say "OMG Kings fans are so smug!!! How dare they support their team!!1!"

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Almost every Kings fan on this entire website knows it's going to be a difficult series. You'd know that if you bothered to, you know, actually pay attention to what Kings fans are saying. Instead, you read Kings fans excited about their team actually doing something and say "OMG Kings fans are so smug!!! How dare they support their team!!1!"
Hell yeah. I'm not looking forward to this series at all. The Coyotes have owned the Kings for years.

Doesn't mean we have a great series to look forward to, but you'd have a hard time finding a Kings fan who thinks this series is going to easy.

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Ummm...










It took me like 30 seconds to find these. I'm sure there are more. There are certainly more if you look outside this thread.
And none of those posts actually say that they were lucky to beat Vancouver and St. Louis. You're trying to hard to be offended by something that isn't there.

Seems a lot of posters are annointing LA the favorites because of how easily they beat Vancouver and St. Louis, and that is what I took issue with. They only lost 1 team combined against the top 2 seeds, but those seeds imploded (Vancouver because of injuries) as much as LA beat them.

I wouldn't be surprised if LA beat Phoenix, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the other way around.

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But is that a reason to dismiss the Kings' victory as less than stellar? It's a horrible reason to downplay another team's success.

"Sure, you swept the #2 seed, but they were inexperienced."
Oh, I agree with you, I suppose I was trying to play devil's advocate or something. Whether or not the Blues are whatever they are, the Kings are still a solid, all-around team that was seriously mistaken due to their atrocious start at the season.

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Lots of smug Kings fans in here.

Pulling for Phoenix now.
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Theyre grossly overlooking a Phoenix team that took out Chicago and Nashville because theyre a team that lacks star power aside Shane Doan.
You're cherrypicking posters. Most of us are aware this is going to be a long, bloody, drawn-out series with great goaltending and physical play, and we typically struggle mightily with Phoenix.

Any of the smugness you see is a response to the dude who is going goal-by-goal through our playoffs and talking about why they were lucky.

"La got empty netters, therefore they've had an easy path." Give me a break.

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