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05-12-2012, 05:19 PM
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it would totally prove the League is rigged.
It would prove that the League is rigged? Completely circumstantial evidence that only points to the League being rigged if you choose to view it in such a way proves that the League is rigged? I would very much enjoy reading a defense of this statement.

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05-12-2012, 05:24 PM
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It would prove that the League is rigged? Completely circumstantial evidence that only points to the League being rigged if you choose to view it in such a way proves that the League is rigged? I would very much enjoy reading a defense of this statement.
It would prove that the second coming is upon us, and his name is Mike Smith.

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05-12-2012, 05:36 PM
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I'm sure I'm not the only one pulling for Phoenix to win it. It'd be a great sight to see and a true testament to the fans.

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05-12-2012, 05:39 PM
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Threatening to move to Nashville in '95? Win Cup.

McMullen selling to YankeesNets in '00? Win Cup.

Vanderbeek running short on cash in '12? We shall see .....
The team is making money. Just not fast enough to pay the debt off.

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05-12-2012, 05:54 PM
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I can't believe people are saying this is rigged. If it's rigged, I can think of plenty of other franchises they'd want to keep in over New Jersey and Phoenix. The Wings, Penguins, Hawks, Bruins, and Flyers going out early was not good for ratings.

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05-12-2012, 06:01 PM
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Why do people care so much about ratings and market sizes? None of you work for NBC or the NHL. The NHL is locked into a contract with NBC. Fans shouldn't care if a big market team makes the Finals or not (unless your team is a big market team).

If you don't have a team still alive, just root for the team that you think plays the most exciting brand of hockey to win and move on, not for the team that plays in a bigger market.

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05-12-2012, 06:03 PM
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The Devils sold out all of their playoff games thus far, and single game tickets for the next round sold out in 10 minutes. But nice try.
Not only did they sell out, but the ticket prices for round 3 games at Prudential Center were insanely priced and are going for a ton of money on Stubhub.

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05-12-2012, 06:06 PM
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The remaining teams can provide either the NHL's dream matchup in the Kings vs Rangers or their worst nightmare in the Yotes vs Devils.

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05-12-2012, 06:08 PM
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The remaining teams can provide either the NHL's dream matchup in the Kings vs Rangers or their worst nightmare in the Yotes vs Devils.
Weren't you the same guy that was convinced the league was actively working against you every call that didn't go your way?

New York is a dream matchup in everything, but the actual product on the ice.

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05-12-2012, 06:09 PM
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All Devils ECF tickets sold out in less than 10 minutes.
I have a friend who always manages to get Devils tickets. I don't know how he does it but he will find his way into a sold out series.

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Weren't you the same guy that was convinced the league was actively working against you every call that didn't go your way?

New York is a dream matchup in everything, but the actual product on the ice.
Firstly every "guy" is that way when it's against their team. Secondly the product on the ice would be exciting and worthy of a SCF for any of the remaining teams.

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New York-Los Angeles would shatter all NHL ratings records.
Just because you have 2 big markets playing doesn't mean the rest of the continent is going to watch them play. NY and LA are big markets on their own, but small when you consider the entire North American audience. Why would the people outside of these markets want to watch these two teams?

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Firstly every "guy" is that way when it's against their team. Secondly the product on the ice would be exciting and worthy of a SCF for any of the remaining teams.
#1) No, every "guy" is not that way. Especially when they make simultaneous proclamations of their "dream" status in the league.

#2) They would be worthy, sure.

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05-12-2012, 06:20 PM
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I have a friend who always manages to get Devils tickets. I don't know how he does it but he will find his way into a sold out series.
I already know several NYR fans that got their foot in the door. Apparently JVB didn't count on any NYR fans previously buying tickets during the regular season, and sent them our super secret ticket codes as well!

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05-12-2012, 09:04 PM
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Do the media and fans of any other sport have such a collective hate-on for small and mid sized market teams?
Has any other league lost an entire season because of small market teams? Is another season threatened again by these teams? Phoenix will always be the symbol of a failed Southwest expansion/relocation. New Jersey will always be the team that killed offensive hockey. Personal I think that title now belongs to the Rangers so go Devils.

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05-12-2012, 09:06 PM
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these playoffs just get worse and worse....it's a sad, sad day when I'm looking towards phoenix for entertaining hockey to save the playoffs.

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05-12-2012, 09:12 PM
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Talk about a nightmare scenario for the league if there ever was one.

This isn’t a fan base pile on thread. Both teams have die hard fans and I am not stating that if they both made the Finals, they wouldn’t deserve to be there but from a ratings stand point I couldn’t imagine a worse scenario for the NHL. Defensive hockey battles in two small markets would result in some low, low ratings.
Why? These are two teams that need success to add to their respective fan base.

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these playoffs just get worse and worse....it's a sad, sad day when I'm looking towards phoenix for entertaining hockey to save the playoffs.
Yeah, nothing quite as exciting as a pirouette and dive to the ice by Kessler, Burrows, or Luongo.

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05-12-2012, 09:47 PM
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LA or Rangers will take the cup.
They're the only one that started the season over in Europe.

See. Boston - Chicago - Pittsburgh

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05-13-2012, 11:24 AM
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these playoffs just get worse and worse....it's a sad, sad day when I'm looking towards phoenix for entertaining hockey to save the playoffs.
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Yeah, nothing quite as exciting as a pirouette and dive to the ice by Kessler, Burrows, or Luongo.
boom, roasted.

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05-13-2012, 12:27 PM
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hate to break it to ya, but the Devils are in the same market as the Rangers.

Hate to break it to you but no one gives a crap about the devils.

Their Stanley Cup "parade" drew 25,000 people. Barely a sellout in the arena. The Ranger parade drew 1,500,000 people. That's 60 to 1. Hardly explained by the population difference.

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05-13-2012, 12:32 PM
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Why do people care so much about ratings and market sizes? None of you work for NBC or the NHL. The NHL is locked into a contract with NBC. Fans shouldn't care if a big market team makes the Finals or not (unless your team is a big market team).

If you don't have a team still alive, just root for the team that you think plays the most exciting brand of hockey to win and move on, not for the team that plays in a bigger market.
It's a negotiation thing. Sure the NHL is locked into a contract now, but when the next negotiation occurs, they can point to the hard numbers and say: the average Stanley cup got XX.X ratings. Not saying it would be fixed or anything (fans get too paranoid about that IMO), but if they could have a choice, the NHL would like to see two big market teams even if it has no impact on money for the current deal.

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05-13-2012, 12:38 PM
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Hate to break it to you but no one gives a crap about the devils.

Their Stanley Cup "parade" drew 25,000 people. Barely a sellout in the arena. The Ranger parade drew 1,500,000 people. That's 60 to 1. Hardly explained by the population difference.
When your team wins so often, I guess it gets boring to keep going to parades.

One in 70 years is just a little bit more novel

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05-13-2012, 12:50 PM
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I prefer the Devils over Rangers because they're more entertaining to watch.

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The Ranger parade drew 1,500,000 people.

Drew 1.5 million people, or were there 1.5 million people in Manhattan that day? To give you some perspective there were slightly less than 1 million people in the Times square area for New Years this year.

Ya, either delusional or cant count

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