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05-10-2012, 08:14 PM
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I totally agree with what you're saying about him and abrasive coaches in general, but, as long as you have a good cop/bad cop situation with the coaching staff as a whole, it doesn't really matter who the bad cop is. From my albeit limited perspective, Berube is there to enforce (yes...that is a pun) a positive attitude with the team.

Richard's is a great player and a true leader by action on the ice, but it would appear that he's not a "C" worthy individual. Maybe giving him the C was the beginning of the end for him in Philly?
I would imagine Pronger in the room, with a young captain had a lot to due with the 'division' in the locker room.

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05-12-2012, 07:44 PM
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****, bad start Caps. Get it back fast

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Jesus Christ, that was a crazy first 6 minutes. Caps are getting all sorts of zone time, ****ing keep it up

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05-12-2012, 08:01 PM
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Bull-****. The Rangers have gotten away with two interference calls that would make the 03 Devils blush and the Caps get called first? Talk more about how the league wants Ovechkin in the playoffs

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05-12-2012, 09:42 PM
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Series. Should be one hell of a rivalry coming up next round.

Edit: Guess I spoke too soon.

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Finally some offense

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05-12-2012, 09:46 PM
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The refs are setting the league back 10 years with this ****ing nonsense. Just because it's game 7 doesn't mean you can get away with all the bull**** going on in this game. Certainly it's come from both teams but the Rangers have gotten away with some ridiculous interference and it looks to me like that second goal was the direct result of a trip on Ovechkin.


And the only way the Caps can get a penalty is on a puck over the glass. Ridiculous

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05-12-2012, 09:47 PM
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That should be a goal and Wideman is a dumb hockey player. But we already knew this.

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05-12-2012, 09:48 PM
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OK that should have been a goal

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Now a makeup call for the no goal.

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05-12-2012, 09:51 PM
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The refs are setting the league back 10 years with this ****ing nonsense. Just because it's game 7 doesn't mean you can get away with all the bull**** going on in this game. Certainly it's come from both teams but the Rangers have gotten away with some ridiculous interference and it looks to me like that second goal was the direct result of a trip on Ovechkin.
Yeah, I remember one sequence in the 2nd which lasted about 30 seconds in the NYR zone where about a half dozen "free hands" weren't called on both teams, including a tackle behind the net. It's awful.

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05-12-2012, 09:54 PM
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How bizarre is it that we need the Devils to create offensive hockey in the next round if what to see any.

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05-12-2012, 09:57 PM
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That should be a delay of game. This has been a fairly boring game for a game 7

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05-12-2012, 10:02 PM
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That was one of the most boring final minutes of hockey ever. Oh well. at least the caps/rags series has everyone well prepared for 60 minutes of sleeping...i mean, watching the rags/devils play.

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Well what's next for the Caps? They've tried a few coaches, they've tried wide open and they've tried defense first but none of it has gotten them past the 2nd round.

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Well what's next for the Caps? They've tried a few coaches, they've tried wide open and they've tried defense first but none of it has gotten them past the 2nd round.
Blow up the Rochester Hershey core, obviously!

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Well what's next for the Caps? They've tried a few coaches, they've tried wide open and they've tried defense first but none of it has gotten them past the 2nd round.
They clearly need better playoff performers...like ville leino. In return for his valuable services, we get backstrom or johansson

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05-12-2012, 10:11 PM
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Blow up the Rochester Hershey core, obviously!
Ovy for Hanzal!

I forgot to add they've had a variety of goalie's as well.

As an aside, the hockey snobs (whoever they are) must be relieved that they don't have to eat crow.

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05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
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They need to go back to playing their wide open offensive style. Their defense first approach has resulted in worse regular season performance, career low totals for their top offensive players, and similar playoff success.

They need to get rid of Mike Green and do some work on the back end. Build around Carlson and Alzner. It seems like every year they trade for retread hasbeen defenseman who don't really fit the rest of the team.

Kidnapping Kuznetzov would also help.

They have a very promising a talented goaltender tandem in Holtby and Neuvirth. Should be able to keep them both for a reasonably small amount of cap space and have one of the best goalie tandems in the league. Their top end talent (Backstrom, Ovechkin, Semin) should be good enough.

The one thing I don't get with the caps is that when they don't succeed people always blame their best players (and the guys who produce in the playoffs) instead of their seeming revolving door of poor 3-6 dmen and bottom six forwards.

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05-12-2012, 10:31 PM
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They need to go back to playing their wide open offensive style. Their defense first approach has resulted in worse regular season performance, career low totals for their top offensive players, and similar playoff success.
Exactly.

They went from an offensive juggernaut, but a relatively inexperienced playoff team (who lost out in 7 games to the eventual champions Pens and then next season to a ridiculous Halak) to one of the most boring teams in hockey which is actually much worse than they used to be and it still doesn't get them playoff results.

As for the playoffs...
I will root for a Devils-Yotes final with all my heart, Ranger and Kings are playing some of the most boring hockey I've ever seen.
It would be the first SC Final I would deliberately run large circles around to avoid watching.
Yuck.

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05-12-2012, 10:44 PM
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What they need is more top 6 guys--specifically top line guys--who can play defense. Maybe not shutdown calibur, but at least well enough to give Hunter more confidence to play them more.

Look at every team still playing.
NJ has Parise, Elias, Zajac, etc.
LA has Brown, Kopitar, Richards, etc.
Phoenix has Doan, Hanzal, etc.
Rangers have Callahan, Dubinsky, Gaborik, etc.

And you look back the last few years, and you see that as well. The teams with top-line talent who can play in their own end are the ones with the most success.

Sure, some of those guys are never going be confused with elite checkers, but they are all responsible in their own zone. Which is huge--if your offensive guys are capable of playing at both ends, it's a lot easier to give them 20-25 minutes of ice time.

The Caps need a guy to ride on the other side of Ovechkin who can bring that--a Pominville type, basically. Or someone a little bit better defensively than Backstrom/Johansson at center. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a star player--someone like Jochen Hecht circa 05/06 would do wonders--a 20 goal calibur player who can cover up for the defensive deficiencies of his line mates.

The answer is not full blast offense or defense. It's a happy medium in between--being able to do both at the same time. That's what the Caps need.

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05-12-2012, 10:59 PM
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****. Rangers are the worst. Terribly officiated game (both sides) but at least hotly contested. ****. The. Rangers.


Can't believe I'm rooting for the Devils

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05-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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Getting Ovechkin to actually play defense would help. Watching that guy in the defensive zone is pretty revolting. He just stands there staring at the puck, doesn't even use his stick at all.

If somebody passes the puck near him and he's around the boards he'll throw a decent check, but that's not defense.

Mike Green is still a black hole of all things hockey.

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05-12-2012, 11:39 PM
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Getting Ovechkin to actually play defense would help. Watching that guy in the defensive zone is pretty revolting. He just stands there staring at the puck, doesn't even use his stick at all.

If somebody passes the puck near him and he's around the boards he'll throw a decent check, but that's not defense.

Mike Green is still a black hole of all things hockey.
Perhaps this roster would be better suited in a more uptempo system than radical genius Dale Hunter is running

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