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Who is the MVP of the playoffs thus far?

View Poll Results: Who's the MVP (remaining players)
Lundqvist 71 14.17%
Brad Richards 20 3.99%
Kovalchuk 22 4.39%
Zajac 11 2.20%
Quick 101 20.16%
Brown 194 38.72%
Mike Smith 80 15.97%
Vermette 2 0.40%
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05-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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Don't really care who's leading at this point. With the goalies left though, be shocked if the eventual winner wasn't the goalie of the Cup winning team.

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05-13-2012, 03:40 PM
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Smith, hands down.

Dustin Brown is the runner-up. He's been the catalyst for the Kings intense pressure and constraint. When they needed him, Quick's been there every time. However, the way the Kings are winning has been dictated by the way their forwards have come out and set the tone every night. Brown has set that pace every night, and he hasn't let up yet.

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05-13-2012, 03:52 PM
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It's between Smith and Lundqvist. Quick has been playing very well, but the Kings are also averaging over 3 goals a game.

Lundqvist may be 8-6 in 14 games, but he also has a 1.68 GAA and a .937 SV%. In the Rangers' 8 wins, they won by scores of 1-0 or 2-1 in literally half of them. They're struggling just to average 2 goals a game. The Rangers will go as far as Lundqvist takes them.

Smith has a 1.77 GAA and a .948 SV%. He's made huge saves, even more so than Lundqvist.

The difference comes down to facing shots. Smith faces an average of 33.8 shots per 60 minutes. Lundqvist faces an average of 26.6 shots per 60 minutes.

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05-13-2012, 03:52 PM
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I'm going with Brown.

And I'll probably be in a very small minority, but I'll take Mike Richards over Quick. Quick has been phenomenal when they needed him to be, but I really like the way Richards has stepped up in these playoffs.

Also, while there's no chance in hell that he would actually make one of these lists, I take McDonagh ahead of Brad Richards. McDonagh has been insanely good on the back end.

Right now, overall ranks:

Brown
Smith
Kovalchuk
M. Richards
Lundqvist
McDonagh
Quick
Zajac
Parise
Kopitar
B. Richards
Vermette
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05-13-2012, 03:57 PM
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Not saying either is the leading candidate right now, but I'd take Zajac over Kovalchuk. Almost as many points, and playing excellent defense, as well. Zajac was one of te biggest reasons Giroux didn't do anything at even strength against NJ

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05-13-2012, 04:36 PM
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It's between Smith and Lundqvist. Quick has been playing very well, but the Kings are also averaging over 3 goals a game.

Lundqvist may be 8-6 in 14 games, but he also has a 1.68 GAA and a .937 SV%. In the Rangers' 8 wins, they won by scores of 1-0 or 2-1 in literally half of them. They're struggling just to average 2 goals a game. The Rangers will go as far as Lundqvist takes them.

Smith has a 1.77 GAA and a .948 SV%. He's made huge saves, even more so than Lundqvist.

The difference comes down to facing shots. Smith faces an average of 33.8 shots per 60 minutes. Lundqvist faces an average of 26.6 shots per 60 minutes.

Very good analysis. Lundqvist has played his best though, in Game 7s and OTs. Smith has played OTs.


Quick has not been close to the best goalie in the playoffs.

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05-13-2012, 05:02 PM
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If you look at which users voted for who, the biases shown is pretty hilarious.

Even the teams who got knocked out by one of the choices are voting for someone from that choice, and even nationality seems to be lining up together.

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05-13-2012, 05:07 PM
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Have to go with Mike Smith. Nobody has been better than him these playoffs.

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05-13-2012, 05:28 PM
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Quick, Smith, Kovalchuk and Lundqvist.

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05-13-2012, 05:37 PM
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Smith is literally carrying his team at the moment.
Maybe metaphorically?

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05-13-2012, 05:39 PM
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I think with the great goaltending happening, it almost seems unspecial. So for me, Brown is the stand out. Big goals, great play on both ends, there is no one playing like him these playoffs.

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05-13-2012, 05:42 PM
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Dustin Brown has been the best player so far IMO, but for MVP its a toss up between him and Smith who has had far less help.

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05-13-2012, 05:59 PM
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This is what im saying.

Lundqvist and Smith have been more impressive these playoffs keeping their teams in games and the saves theyre making.

Quick isnt even the MVP of his team or the reason the Kings are where they are. Thats Brown.
That might be true.

But you must have something against Quick. This is not healthy anymore. I think meanwhile everyone knows what you have been saying the past few weeks but its not going to change people's opinion. You can stop now.

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05-13-2012, 06:01 PM
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Dustin Brown.


Smith and Quick have done it all season. Dustin Brown is at another level right now.

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05-13-2012, 06:02 PM
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Quick or Smith. Coin toss. Heads won so I chose Quick!

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05-13-2012, 08:17 PM
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Among the goalies, which I think are the MVPs, Lundqvist. The reason? The Rangers have been substantially outchanced against both the Senators and the Caps. The defense is usually solid, the problem are created mistakes that result in scoring chances. Without and especially with the puck. With the chances Lundqvist has faced, it's a darn miracle the team has only allowed 1,68 GAA. "Well, so has Smith and Quick."

Yes, well, then there is this argument that is the same as to why so many think Quick deserved the Hart MVP over Lundqvist. Rangers have scored 2,07 GF/G in these 14 games, which is 11th of all teams in the playoffs. So? Well, here's the kicker. Teams 6th-16th have all been eliminated, except for the lone island Rangers. For a team that has been so outchanced, with the number of quality saves Lundqvist has had to make. Add to that the pressure of not getting much goal support at all. Quick did it in the regular season, Lundqvist is doing it in the playoffs.

Smith has been outstanding, but he has better goal support. Quick has had fantastic goal support and the team hasn't really forced him to make so many quality saves, they've outplayed their opponents.

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05-13-2012, 11:08 PM
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Quick, and the only one who comes remotely close is Brown. Quick has only allowed 3 goals once these playoffs. For comparison, Lundqvist has allowed 3 goals 4 times, Smith has 3 times (and has allowed 4 goals once), and Brodeur 5 times (including 4 goals twice).

Lundqvist has been good, but he's also looked like he doesn't have any confidence out there. He's been good enough to get his team to the conference final, but I think a lot of that is because of the team in front of him.

Smith is not a particularly good goalie. He's strong down low, but when you get the puck rising on him he's just weak. The Coyotes have been ridiculously fortunate on a lot of calls besides. More than any other goalie in the league, Smith is a product of the system in front of him. He's also relying on his team to score enough to keep him in it as well. In Phoenix's 8 wins, only 2 were by more than a goal. In the playoffs in total, he's only 2-2 when Phoenix scores fewer than 3 goals.

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05-13-2012, 11:11 PM
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Dustin Brown is the best player in the NHL right now.
Kovalchuck is 1/2 the player Kopitar is.

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Quick, and the only one who comes remotely close is Brown. Quick has only allowed 3 goals once these playoffs. For comparison, Lundqvist has allowed 3 goals 4 times, Smith has 3 times (and has allowed 4 goals once), and Brodeur 5 times (including 4 goals twice).

Lundqvist has been good, but he's also looked like he doesn't have any confidence out there. He's been good enough to get his team to the conference final, but I think a lot of that is because of the team in front of him.

Smith is not a particularly good goalie. He's strong down low, but when you get the puck rising on him he's just weak. The Coyotes have been ridiculously fortunate on a lot of calls besides. More than any other goalie in the league, Smith is a product of the system in front of him. He's also relying on his team to score enough to keep him in it as well. In Phoenix's 8 wins, only 2 were by more than a goal. In the playoffs in total, he's only 2-2 when Phoenix scores fewer than 3 goals.
Lundqvist has a 1.68 GAA and a .938 SV %.....The New York Rangers have allowed 3 or fewer goals in each of their first 14 playoff games, an NHL record but Lundqvist has no confidence ?????


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05-13-2012, 11:26 PM
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Why does Brown have so many votes? Elevating your game the most isn't the same as being the most valuable player.

Lundqvist or Smith deserves this. I'd give it to Lundqvist.


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How does Brown have so many votes? Elevating your game the most isn't the same as being the most valuable player.

Lundqvist or Smith deserves this. I'd give it to Lundqvist.
Because it is a vote and people think different then you.

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Lundqvist has been good, but he's also looked like he doesn't have any confidence out there. He's been good enough to get his team to the conference final, but I think a lot of that is because of the team in front of him.
While I think there's a few candidates spread around on a few teams at this point of the playoffs, however this statment makes absolutely no sense.

Have you only watched highlights of the other teams scoring on him? That's the only reasoning I can think of for such a ridiculous assessment. Then again it is just your opinion...

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Because it is a vote and people think different then you.
Fine, changed it to "Why?"

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Fine, changed it to "Why?"
For me it is the same as my earlier post. He is the best player in the NHL right now. Dustin Brown is on a tear. The amazing thing is that really, Anze Kopitar is as good and some say better then DB and is also scoring.

Some of the people in the poll don't belong there and of course they should be replaced by others. Sometimes you don't need to balance things out, it is possible one team has every possible candidate

I am looking to the ECF to see who catches my eye. Someone may popup!

And of course, at this point of course, things can change!
For me, with 2 rounds to go, picking a goalie is way to premature.

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IMO Zajac has been the best Devil....I would say by a fairly large margin.

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