HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Columbus Blue Jackets
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Richards hired as Head Coach

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-14-2012, 09:58 AM
  #26
Robert
Foligno family
 
Robert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: KY & Lime Lake NY
Country: United States
Posts: 30,144
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Robert
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJAnimosity View Post
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ GM Scott Howson heard from 8-10 coaches interested in #CBJ job, but did not hold formal interviews.
As some have said, the last public display of the coaching process did not bode well for the organization after Arniel was fired. If I was Howson I would have as much information as possible on lockdown going forward.

Robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 09:59 AM
  #27
KeithBWhittington
Going North
 
KeithBWhittington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Brick by Brick
Country: Hungary
Posts: 10,236
vCash: 500
Right now I feel very similar to when MacLean took the interim tag off Gallant.... The fact that the league is heading into another fall with the CBA expiring also adds to this. If its true about 8-10 coaches contacting with no followups or interviews or anything, and the fact that Richards gets the 2 year deal instead of the standard 3 we usually see, this is a cost-saving measure.... Plain and Simple.


Last edited by KeithBWhittington: 05-14-2012 at 10:04 AM.
KeithBWhittington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 09:59 AM
  #28
EDM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,898
vCash: 500
You know, I try to care, I really do. But I don't anymore. I think the lowest point as a fan is yet to come: the Nash trade

EDM is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:04 AM
  #29
BluejacketNut
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,847
vCash: 500
Hearing they didnt interview anyone else is making me feel better about my decision not to renew

BluejacketNut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:08 AM
  #30
650X2
Registered User
 
650X2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 534
vCash: 500
I wonder how we will blow up our team and sign overpaid UFAs to match Richards' style?

Why is he signed for 2 years as well? Do we always want 2 coaches on payroll?

650X2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:09 AM
  #31
blahblah
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 16,394
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert View Post
As some have said, the last public display of the coaching process did not bode well for the organization after Arniel was fired. If I was Howson I would have as much information as possible on lockdown going forward.
The only part of the "public" part that was remotely bad, was that it was leaked out that an offer was made. If they are worried about the PR because some HC candidate turned them down, they deserve to be run of of town.

Honestly the announcement that they didn't interview is worse to me, personally, as a fan.

This decision could have been made a month or two ago. He didn't even hint that they even looked outside the org, only that they received interest.

blahblah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:10 AM
  #32
Matt Foley
Living in a van
 
Matt Foley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Down by the river
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJAnimosity View Post
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ GM Scott Howson heard from 8-10 coaches interested in #CBJ job, but did not hold formal interviews.
I'd like to know who those 8-10 coaches were. For all we know, they could all have been guys looking for their first NHL HC gig (which is the road we went down last time, which worked out so, so well ).

It is what it is, guys and gals. IMO, having some stability on the bench may not necessarily be a bad thing, especially given the roster changes that will be happening during the offseason, most notably Nash. After all, it's not like we're going to be Cup contenders anytime soon.

Matt Foley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:13 AM
  #33
Paisano*
Jury is still out...
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Country: United States
Posts: 1,384
vCash: 500
Keep the same people in place that brought you the worst season in franchise history, that's the McConnel solution. I called today to see if I could get my money back on my season ticket renewal. I was told no refunds, you're stuck with them. This organization is beyond pathetic...

Paisano* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:14 AM
  #34
joshjoshjosh
ಠ_ಠ
 
joshjoshjosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Guam
Country: Eritrea
Posts: 2,268
vCash: 500
Good lord this board is one "WON'T SOMEONE PLEEEEEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN" away from complete hysteria.

Could have been Barry Melrose and Gomer Pyle calling under fake names, but the whole story doesn't matter! It's the Blue Jackets! Rabblerabblerabblerabblerabble.

joshjoshjosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:17 AM
  #35
RDriesenUD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshjoshjosh View Post
Good lord this board is one "WON'T SOMEONE PLEEEEEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN" away from complete hysteria.

Could have been Barry Melrose and Gomer Pyle calling under fake names, but the whole story doesn't matter! It's the Blue Jackets! Rabblerabblerabblerabblerabble.
What has the organization done to deserve our trust and faith?

RDriesenUD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:20 AM
  #36
Roadman
Moving On
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: London OH
Country: United States
Posts: 2,592
vCash: 500
For Gods sake people you don't even know who called. NHL assistants, AHL coaches/asst, college guys, first timers, old timers.

Maybe Craig Patrick put the thumbs down on them, may it was Patrick who said we weren't going to do any better.

You just assume that since they weren't interviewed they should have been???

I swear The Jackets could hire Scotty ********in Bowman and there would *****ing.

__________________
__________________

I post, therefore I am.
Roadman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:27 AM
  #37
llamapalooza
Hockey State Expat
 
llamapalooza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 7,235
vCash: 500
I'm so, so sorry.

llamapalooza is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:29 AM
  #38
Nanabijou
Playoffs back at Nat
 
Nanabijou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,549
vCash: 500
I don't find the news that disturbing. I'm interested in seeing what Richards can do this year.

Here is my take on why there was no formal search (complete speculation):

Howson has been told he has one year to turn the team around and make significant progress this year. He was told he is not able to bring in a new coach - he had made his bed with the Arniel/Richards hirings. If Richards and Howson can't right the ship, then the Jackets clean house next summer. They're only on the hook for 1 more year of Richards contract if that happens (pretty reasonable in terms of coach firings), and so that's why we see the 2-year contract instead of the standard 3.

What the benchmark for success this year is, I'm not sure. But, this hire makes sense from this perspective. If this benchmark isn't achieved, the new GM will be able to bring in their own coach.

Nanabijou is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:33 AM
  #39
FANonymous
Registered User
 
FANonymous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,911
vCash: 500
Just keep piling on.

FANonymous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:34 AM
  #40
KeithBWhittington
Going North
 
KeithBWhittington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Brick by Brick
Country: Hungary
Posts: 10,236
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanabijou View Post
I don't find the news that disturbing. I'm interested in seeing what Richards can do this year.

Here is my take on why there was no formal search (complete speculation):

Howson has been told he has one year to turn the team around and make significant progress this year. He was told he is not able to bring in a new coach - he had made his bed with the Arniel/Richards hirings. If Richards and Howson can't right the ship, then the Jackets clean house next summer. They're only on the hook for 1 more year of Richards contract if that happens (pretty reasonable in terms of coach firings), and so that's why we see the 2-year contract instead of the standard 3.

What the benchmark for success this year is, I'm not sure. But, this hire makes sense from this perspective. If this benchmark isn't achieved, the new GM will be able to bring in their own coach.
That hypothetical new GM would still need to pay for Richards for one year. With the organization needing at least one and possibly 2 assistants plus hiring a head coach for Springfield (Reilly was fired) and possibly more staff for Springfield, and the september expiration of the CBA, this reeks of "cost-saving measure"

KeithBWhittington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:36 AM
  #41
RDriesenUD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadman View Post
For Gods sake people you don't even know who called. NHL assistants, AHL coaches/asst, college guys, first timers, old timers.

Maybe Craig Patrick put the thumbs down on them, may it was Patrick who said we weren't going to do any better.

You just assume that since they weren't interviewed they should have been???

I swear The Jackets could hire Scotty ********in Bowman and there would *****ing.
It doesn't matter who called. If you have a job opening you conduct interviews. Also, those are only coaches who called Columbus. We could have called our own coaches to see if they wanted to interview. The point isn't who could have been interviewed. It is that we didn't even conduct any interviews.

RDriesenUD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:38 AM
  #42
Nanabijou
Playoffs back at Nat
 
Nanabijou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,549
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithBWhittington View Post
That hypothetical new GM would still need to pay for Richards for one year. With the organization needed at least one and possibly 2 assistants plus hiring a head coach for Springfield (Reilly was fired) and possibly more staff for Springfield, and the september expiration of the CBA, this reeks of "cost-saving measure"
Seeing as Richards already had 2 years remaining on his Assistant Coach contract, he's not going to trade that in for a 1-year Head coach contract. The 2-year contract had to be done, and it's the cost of doing business if they have to pay him an extra year.

You never know, I guess Howson and Richards could catch lightning in a bottle this year and I'm guessing that is what JPMac is banking on.

Nanabijou is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:38 AM
  #43
RDriesenUD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanabijou View Post
I don't find the news that disturbing. I'm interested in seeing what Richards can do this year.

Here is my take on why there was no formal search (complete speculation):

Howson has been told he has one year to turn the team around and make significant progress this year. He was told he is not able to bring in a new coach - he had made his bed with the Arniel/Richards hirings. If Richards and Howson can't right the ship, then the Jackets clean house next summer. They're only on the hook for 1 more year of Richards contract if that happens (pretty reasonable in terms of coach firings), and so that's why we see the 2-year contract instead of the standard 3.

What the benchmark for success this year is, I'm not sure. But, this hire makes sense from this perspective. If this benchmark isn't achieved, the new GM will be able to bring in their own coach.
Then why not hire Richards for 1 year?

RDriesenUD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:39 AM
  #44
RDriesenUD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanabijou View Post
Seeing as Richards already had 2 years remaining on his Assistant Coach contract, he's not going to trade that in for a 1-year Head coach contract. The 2-year contract had to be done, and it's the cost of doing business if they have to pay him an extra year.

You never know, I guess Howson and Richards could catch lightning in a bottle this year and I'm guess that is what JPMac is banking on.
Then you tell Richards to look for a new job. I am guessing Richards would have taken a 1 year contract if it meant keeping his job.

RDriesenUD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:41 AM
  #45
Nanabijou
Playoffs back at Nat
 
Nanabijou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,549
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RDriesenUD View Post
Then you tell Richards to look for a new job. I am guessing Richards would have taken a 1 year contract if it meant keeping his job.
Even if they had fired him, they would still have had to pay him for the next 2 years. It's a guaranteed contract.

Nanabijou is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:41 AM
  #46
Fred Glover
Chief of Sinners
 
Fred Glover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ohio
Country: Scotland
Posts: 4,055
vCash: 1000
Sadly, very little that this organization does impresses me anymore.

Fred Glover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:45 AM
  #47
RDriesenUD
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,946
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanabijou View Post
Even if they had fired him, they would still have had to pay him for the next 2 years. It's a guaranteed contract.
Yes, but I am guessing he makes more as a HC.

RDriesenUD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:47 AM
  #48
KeithBWhittington
Going North
 
KeithBWhittington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Brick by Brick
Country: Hungary
Posts: 10,236
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanabijou View Post
Seeing as Richards already had 2 years remaining on his Assistant Coach contract, he's not going to trade that in for a 1-year Head coach contract. The 2-year contract had to be done, and it's the cost of doing business if they have to pay him an extra year.

You never know, I guess Howson and Richards could catch lightning in a bottle this year and I'm guessing that is what JPMac is banking on.
I'm arguing moreso that the 2 year instead of standard three year, coupled with all the things I mentioned makes this a cost saving measure. Interviewing candidates and coordinating times with them, albeit desirable, also is money and time spent.

I'm guessing this has nothing to do with Howson's security as the GM.... for now.

KeithBWhittington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:47 AM
  #49
Mayor Bee
\/me_____you\/
 
Mayor Bee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 14,313
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gojackets1 View Post
Wow is all I can say. You don't even bother to have interviews at all?
I think the key word is "formal". It doesn't mean that guys weren't talked to over the phone, or even face-to-face, without it being part of a truly all-encompassing search.

And for all we know, it could have been Lou Angotti, Ed Olczyk, and Rick Kehoe calling.

Mayor Bee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-14-2012, 10:49 AM
  #50
Nanabijou
Playoffs back at Nat
 
Nanabijou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,549
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RDriesenUD View Post
Yes, but I am guessing he makes more as a HC.
Yes, I bet he is, but I don't know if restructuring a deal to take off a year is even possible. It isn't possible for players (unless there is a buyout), but I don't know if coaches are governed by different rules.

Nanabijou is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:46 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.