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05-15-2012, 05:31 PM
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Tangradi's next contract

Got paid $660,000 in 2011-2012. Cap hit was $845,833 including bonuses. What do you think his next contract will look like in terms of length and value?

My guess: It will look a lot like Tyler Kennedy's second contract: 2-years @ $725,000. This is a raise and the term is short enough that if he reaches his potential he can sign a new contract for more money (also like TK).

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600k is my guess, the cheaper he goes the easier it'll be for him to stick in the NHL. I'm guessing 2 years @ 600k with the first year two-way and a bump in his AHL salary.

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I'm a little disappointed in Tangradi's development...What happened?

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Injuries at inopportune times have been part of the problem, along with play in the defensive zone and the fact that he doesn't always grind guys down like Bylsma would like (and Bylsma prefers vets to rookies). He's shown glimpses, can really protect the puck excellently along the boards and make nice little passes to open guys.

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I'm a little disappointed in Tangradi's development...What happened?
Disco Dan and his hard-on for vets.

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I'm a little disappointed in Tangradi's development...What happened?
Dan Bylsma happened.

I would imagine his next contract will be 800-900k short term. More importantly he is no longer waiver eligible so they have to play him or waive him. Hopefully that forces the coaching staffs hand.

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Tangradi turned the corner at the end of the season. While he was not scoring goals, that will come now that he is performing the other aspects of his job well. This is my opinion.

I also think he will do a 2 year deal for 700k or so.

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I would offer him the same contract as Dustin Jeffrey's one.

575,000 per season.

Depends on Shero what his plans are. If he wants to keep Tangradi's RFA rights, the qualifing offer would be 726,000, which is too high IMO.

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I would offer him the same contract as Dustin Jeffrey's one.

575,000 per season.

Depends on Shero what his plans are. If he wants to keep Tangradi's RFA rights, the qualifing offer would be 726,000, which is too high IMO.
Good thing you aren't Shero.

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Good thing you aren't Shero.
Even better thing you're not him too. You would put him on the top-6 .. NUFF SAID !!!

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Even better thing you're not him too. You would put him on the top-6 .. NUFF SAID !!!
Yeah, because giving a player a chance in the top 6 who has played a top 6 role his entire life is a horrible idea. Lets keep him with Asham and Adams, he will show his potential there.

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He's off my radar atm.

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Yeah, because giving a player a chance in the top 6 who has played a top 6 role his entire life is a horrible idea. Lets keep him with Asham and Adams, he will show his potential there.
What? his entire life? in the AHL ??

Colin Mcdonald played in top-6 too, let's bring him up and put him on Sid's wing.

Tangradi is slow, he can't keep the tempo with Sid.

Will you go with the same logic for Jeffrey as well?

Do you know why Sid played with wingers like Dupuis, Sullivan or Kunitz? Because of SPEED !!!

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What? his entire life? in the AHL ??

Colin Mcdonald played in top-6 too, let's bring him up and put him on Sid's wing.

Tangradi is slow, he can't keep the tempo with Sid.

Will you go with the same logic for Jeffrey as well?

Do you know why Sid played with wingers like Dupuis, Sullivan or Kunitz? Because of SPEED !!!
I made the mistake of thinking Tangradi couldn't keep up with Sid. He made me eat my words. After watching him this past season, you don't really have an excuse for thinking he can't.

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What? his entire life? in the AHL ??

Colin Mcdonald played in top-6 too, let's bring him up and put him on Sid's wing.

Tangradi is slow, he can't keep the tempo with Sid.

Will you go with the same logic for Jeffrey as well?

Do you know why Sid played with wingers like Dupuis, Sullivan or Kunitz? Because of SPEED !!!
Guerin begs to differ.

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Then put Kunitz with Sid and Tango with Malkin. Top 6 in juniors, international play, etc. Kid has been a playmaker for the last 5 years, then is expected to just become a grinder with no growing pains? Hes also played with good offensive talent in Belleville, Wb/S, and USA. Now hes with Adams and Vitale. Now why isnt he producing?

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Dan Bylsma happened.

I would imagine his next contract will be 800-900k short term. More importantly he is no longer waiver eligible so they have to play him or waive him. Hopefully that forces the coaching staffs hand.
For goodness sakes. His development was obviously slow. He is now starting to come into his own in a bottom 6 role, just like he did in his first year and half in WBS. I love how people blindly blame DB for everything.

You re-sign him, pencil him in at the LW on the 4th line and let him force his way up the line-up. I am sure he will. At this point he has 1 career goal. Let's not start putting him in the top 6.

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I would offer him the same contract as Dustin Jeffrey's one.

575,000 per season.

Depends on Shero what his plans are. If he wants to keep Tangradi's RFA rights, the qualifing offer would be 726,000, which is too high IMO.
Won't be as low as 575k. Jeffrey was a 6th rounder that signed his entry-level at 525k.

Tangradi is a high 2nd round pick, and his entry-level deal was worth 845k per season

Per Capgeek, should be a two-year deal around 725k per season.

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I'm a little disappointed in Tangradi's development...What happened?
Tangradi isn't a member of The Dan Bylsma Country Club. Only veterans are allowed.

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Whatever he gets it will not be a burden to us cap-wise. Surprised people are worried about this given Shero's track record with signing young guys and role players / tweeners in their prime. None of them get big money.

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Yeah, because giving a player a chance in the top 6 who has played a top 6 role his entire life is a horrible idea. Lets keep him with Asham and Adams, he will show his potential there.
Giving him a chance when there's an injury or something makes sense. There's no way we should go into the season with him penciled into a top 6 spot though. If he's one of our top 4 wing choices we should sign a better wing.

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I made the mistake of thinking Tangradi couldn't keep up with Sid. He made me eat my words. After watching him this past season, you don't really have an excuse for thinking he can't.
He's mediocre skater, you can't argue that. He's got size to drive the net and ability to cycle the puck. It's bottom-6 role to me.

He got caught by dmen even he was on a breakaway or tried to be, several times.

I have nothing against Big Dog. If he can develop into top-6 player one time, I'm all for it. He's not there yet ! I still think he could be a great 3rd liner, than good 2nd liner.

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Guerin begs to differ.
Yeah, that's why I would not like to see it again. Billy, at least, had a shot and leadership ability.

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Won't be as low as 575k. Jeffrey was a 6th rounder that signed his entry-level at 525k.

Tangradi is a high 2nd round pick, and his entry-level deal was worth 845k per season

Per Capgeek, should be a two-year deal around 725k per season.
It's only if you want to obtain his RFA rights. It's the value of qualifying offer. You don't have to sign him for that price.

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blah blah blah Bylsma should make tangradi good blah blah.

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Put him with Sid. Kids got potential you can tell by the way he was playing towards the end of the year.

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Disco Dan and his hard-on for vets.
Pretty much. It's interesting to me that the only rookies that ever get any shot with Dan are defensemen.

IF you are a forward, you might as well just not sign and wait to be a UFA and go somewhere else it seems. I know I am being overly dramatic with that last statement but it seriously looks like that at times. Any time Tangradi does anything positive, it seems like he's punished for it by not taking another shift for a long freakin' time.


As far as his contract stuff, I think around the same price for 1 more year.

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