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05-15-2012, 06:26 PM
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No, we can't make a new rule every time the Rangers and Devils meet in the playoffs

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Tanking?

And who cares if they are better offensively. Maybe our defense is better than their offense, which I guess proved to be true.
Parking a bus, etc etc.

And yeah, the Rangers defense coupled with Fortress Lundqvist was better than the Capitals offense. You cant score goals if its physically impossible to do so without taking the risk of getting called for goaltender interference.

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Well, the Rangers interfere and sit on dead pucks, so yeah. Its only fair.

No reason LA players shouldnt be allowed to move bodies around if the Rangers are just going to turtle their way to victory every night.

Otherwise there WILL be a rule change, because the games will become pointless.
When did they sit on the puck? Maybe the Devils should score a ****ing goal if they want to win a game right? Last time I checked, you need to score if you want a chance to win.

And we turtle to win.

There will be no rule change, so grow up and take the loss like a real man instead of a sore loser.

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When did they sit on the puck? Maybe the Devils should score a ****ing goal if they want to win a game right? Last time I checked, you need to score if you want a chance to win.

And we turtle to win.

There will be no rule change, so grow up and take the loss like a real man instead of a sore loser.
They did it once during the second period, when they were getting worked badly in their own end. Staahl actually plopped his ass down on the puck because the Devils were pressing so hard and the Rangers couldnt get the puck out.

Did it again in the 3rd rght before that surge started.

How about that hand pass? Thats the kind of stuff that fuels conspiracy theories..

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Better skaters. Washington has more speed, and absolutely has more talent offensively. This is why despite all the shots and defense washington played, there were stretches where NYR looked like they were on a penalty kill when it was 5 on 5.

Tanking isnt something you can just start doing on command. The Rangers are built to play defense for 60 minutes and absorb punishment.
So you're only allowed to block shots if you have speedy and offensively talented skaters? Give me a break.

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Serious question. Do you think their will be a change in the rules as a result of the Rangers shot blocking?
If that happened, I wouldnt watch any more. Making that rule would make the league a joke!

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05-15-2012, 06:34 PM
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They did it once during the second period, when they were getting worked badly in their own end. Staahl actually plopped his ass down on the puck because the Devils were pressing so had and the Rangers couldnt get the puck out.

Did it again in the 3rd rght before that surge started. It seemed like everytime the Devils pressed, there were Blue Shirts laying on the ice trying to physically cover th puck with their bodies.

How about that hand pass? Thats the kind of stuff that fuels conspiracy theories..
The only thing you're right about is the hand-pass, which proved to not make a difference since you still didn't score. And show me a YT of when "Staahl" covered the puck with their body, because it didn't happen.

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Probably. Especially against Washington, the Rangers made it literally impossible to get a shot thru. Since its not a skill play, any team can dress a bunch of guys that are willing to pile up in front of the net and take the abuse, hoping theyll get a lucky bounce or soft goal in their favor.
Blocking shots is not a skill play? I'd love to see some amateur's go out and block Chara's point shot. Even if you're tough enough to attempt it, you're not going to do it properly, or on time. Taking out shot blocks would be a completely awful idea.

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if there should be rules against playing defense and blocking shots there should also be rules against playing offense and taking shots

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Probably. Especially against Washington, the Rangers made it literally impossible to get a shot thru. Since its not a skill play, any team can dress a bunch of guys that are willing to pile up in front of the net and take the abuse, hoping theyll get a lucky bounce or soft goal in their favor.
Not a skill play? Ha-ha-ha! You're funny.

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Washington blocked more shots than the Rangers, and by a wide margin too.
washington didnt really shoot the puck, they just passed it back and forth and threw it in the corner

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if there should be rules against playing defense and blocking shots there should also be rules against playing offense and taking shots
lol good point

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No, there shouldn't be a rule against it. For every attempted blocked shot, that is a potential screen on the goalie.

It sucks to have the shot blocked, just as it sucks to have a wall of a goalie stop you from scoring. You do everything you can to overcome it.

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what I find funny about the OP's notion is that if the capitals are really that much better offensively than the rangers, shouldn't they have been able to figure out a way to get more shots on net? U say they're faster... so then wouldn't they have been able to completely avoid having their shots blocked because they're uber speed would equate to more rushes or time and space in the rangers zone?

its also funny that you rarely ever see players fake shots... A good remedy to a team that blocks shots is faking the first, then letting the player go down and either skate around him or make a shot once he's already in a position where he can no longer adjust for the real shot thats about to come.

Until teams actually make real efforts in faking shots from the point on a consistent basis, it's ridiculous to think that there's no other alternative to blocking shots than simply to add in a new rule.



Maybe your devils should work on their speed, accuracy and creativity to completely avoid shot blocking situations entirely, instead of you criticizing other teams in the league that are willing to sacrifice their body to eat a shot.

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How about this.....we limit shots for both teams to 20 each. After each team has taken 20 shots the game ends automatically regardless of score.

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So you're only allowed to block shots if you have speedy and offensively talented skaters? Give me a break.
No.

But theres no point in playing a game if one team is playing a cheap system that makes it impossible for anybody to get a scoring chance.

How do you score goals with no shooting lanes? And no way of getting a guy in front of the net to deflect anything?

How do you get the Rangers to stop piling up? Do you push them away? Do you take the risk of getting called for a penalty because the other team literally isnt moving, and knows theyll get a PP if theyre touched?

The Rangers have the right of way, but the other drivers arent even allowed to turn.

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No.

But theres no point in playing a game if one team is playing a cheap system that makes it impossible for anybody to get a scoring chance.

How do you score goals with no shooting lanes? And no way of getting a guy in front of the net to deflect anything?

How do you get the Rangers to stop piling up? Do you push them away? Do you take the risk of getting called for a penalty because the other team literally isnt moving, and knows theyll get a PP if theyre touched?

The Rangers have the right of way, but the other drivers arent even allowed to turn.
Then how come the Devils were allowed to trap?

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Serious question. Do you think their will be a change in the rules as a result of the Rangers shot blocking?
The shot blocking has been an issue for a while. The Oilers were doing it alot in 2006 when they made their run.

Its something that has creeped into the game over time. The Rangers simply do it better than most teams but it's been around for a while.

I dont like the shot blocking. So many guys are willing to get in the way these days, that it has actually changed the game. Whether its for the better or for worse is up to the beholder, but as a neutral, I find it more difficult to watch games knowing that so many lanes are plugged.

There's no easy solution, but the reason this issue has been brought up for the last few years is simply because shot blocking is no longer an art that a few guys mastered.... today, its something that almost everyone is expected to do, and this has definitely changed the game.

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The shot blocking has been an issue for a while. The Oilers were doing it alot in 2006 when they made their run.

Its something that has creeped into the game over time. The Rangers simply do it better than most teams but it's been around for a while.

I dont like the shot blocking. So many guys are willing to get in the way these days, that it has actually changed the game. Whether its for the better or for worse is up to the beholder, but as a neutral, I find it more difficult to watch games knowing that so many lanes are plugged.

There's no easy solution, but the reason this issue has been brought up for the last few years is simply because shot blocking is no longer an art that a few guys mastered.... today, its something that almost everyone is expected to do, and this has definitely changed the game.
With how perfectly the Rangers do it, they make it seem like art to me.

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No, there shouldn't be a rule against it. For every attempted blocked shot, that is a potential screen on the goalie.

It sucks to have the shot blocked, just as it sucks to have a wall of a goalie stop you from scoring. You do everything you can to overcome it.
When the goalie covers 80% of the net, on his own, with his gigantic pads, and then you have 5guys blocking shots for him, what good is a screen?

There is literally nowhere to get the puck thru unless some freak bounce happens.

Thats really my issue. Maybe the NHL needs to size down padding again? Bigger nets? Its not just Lundqvist, either. So im not just picking on him. It is getting ridiculous, though.

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No.

But theres no point in playing a game if one team is playing a cheap system that makes it impossible for anybody to get a scoring chance.

How do you score goals with no shooting lanes? And no way of getting a guy in front of the net to deflect anything?

How do you get the Rangers to stop piling up? Do you push them away? Do you take the risk of getting called for a penalty because the other team literally isnt moving, and knows theyll get a PP if theyre touched?

The Rangers have the right of way, but the other drivers arent even allowed to turn.
devil fans complaining about defensive hockey and claims it cheap....something just seems wrong with this picture

ill admit that the rangers play defense first but they dont just pile up in front of the net.
also you say the team literally isnt moving wouldnt that make it easier to score?

you really shouldnt be talking the team who trapped their way to 3 cups complaining about defense is like the driver who cuts someone off then gets pissed when someone cuts them off

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don't really know how you could ever make a rule about it....maybe make it illegal to leave your feet to block a shot? I can't see any way that is passed

then again, they made it freaking illegal for goalies to play the puck in some areas so who the hell knows

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When the goalie covers 80% of the net, on his own, with his gigantic pads, and then you have 5guys blocking shots for him, what good is a screen?

There is literally nowhere to get the puck thru unless some freak bounce happens.

Thats really my issue. Maybe the NHL needs to size down padding again? Bigger nets? Its not just Lundqvist, either. So im not just picking on him. It is getting ridiculous, though.
They are already reducing pad sizes. Every year they are supposed to decrease by a certain percentage. They really shouldn't allow those gigantic chest protectors though. That's the only thing I'll agree with you about.

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