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05-16-2012, 10:31 AM
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The Caps need a coach that's going to adjust his system to best fit the personnel of the team--not force the players into a system that doesn't suit their strengths. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a coach to have a system where Ovie doesn't have to play defense, Green's shooting forward at every opportunity, etc.--it needs to be effective in all three zones. But I want a system that's able to take advantage of Ovie's offensive gifts, Green's breakout ability, etc.

This interview is one thing that's moved me towards the MacTavish bandwagon:


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The Caps need a coach that's going to adjust his system to best fit the personnel of the team--not force the players into a system that doesn't suit their strengths. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a coach to have a system where Ovie doesn't have to play defense, Green's shooting forward at every opportunity, etc.--it needs to be effective in all three zones. But I want a system that's able to take advantage of Ovie's offensive gifts, Green's breakout ability, etc.

This interview is one thing that's moved me towards the MacTavish bandwagon:

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05-16-2012, 10:44 AM
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picking a coach

I have a very simple solution to picking a coach and that is; ask OV who he likes.

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The Caps need a coach that's going to adjust his system to best fit the personnel of the team--not force the players into a system that doesn't suit their strengths. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a coach to have a system where Ovie doesn't have to play defense, Green's shooting forward at every opportunity, etc.--it needs to be effective in all three zones. But I want a system that's able to take advantage of Ovie's offensive gifts, Green's breakout ability, etc.

This interview is one thing that's moved me towards the MacTavish bandwagon:

Thanks for the video link. Very informative and has swayed me into Mac's camp. Also spurned me to do some research on Mac's playing career.

I didn't know he missed the '84-'85 season because he was in jail for manslaughter. Not going to comment on what he did to get sent to jail, but the fact he rebounded from this low point in his life to go on to play another 14 years and win 4 Cups says a lot.

Also being one of the last players to play without a helmut is a positive, IMO.

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05-16-2012, 10:46 AM
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I have a very simple solution to picking a coach and that is; ask OV who he likes.
Definetly would be the wrong thing to do.

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The Caps need a coach that's going to adjust his system to best fit the personnel of the team--not force the players into a system that doesn't suit their strengths. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a coach to have a system where Ovie doesn't have to play defense, Green's shooting forward at every opportunity, etc.--it needs to be effective in all three zones. But I want a system that's able to take advantage of Ovie's offensive gifts, Green's breakout ability, etc.

This interview is one thing that's moved me towards the MacTavish bandwagon:

Great link; thanks for sharing. Certainly makes MacTavish a more attractive option in my book. One other thing he said stood out to me: "It starts with the captain... The best players have to be the best examples." The Caps don't have that at all.

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I have a very simple solution to picking a coach and that is; ask OV who he likes.
Imagine hiring Maria Kirilenko as a HC.

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Iron Mike Keenan. Too past his prime?
Tony Granato...too PGH?
Craig McTavish?
Bob Hartley?

Any of these names inspire any good vibes for Caps fans?
No way to Keenan or Granato. Neither of them should see another NHL head coaching gig, between Granato's repeated failures and Iron Mike's unparalleled bridge arson abilities.

Hartley I could live with, but is a pretty uninspiring hire. MacT is among my favorites of the available candidates.

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None of what's out there is really stellar.

Wish a few better coaches got the axe to be honest.

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Great link; thanks for sharing. Certainly makes MacTavish a more attractive option in my book. One other thing he said stood out to me: "It starts with the captain... The best players have to be the best examples." The Caps don't have that at all.
Based on OV's jealousy comments, it certainly is a question mark.

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Based on OV's jealousy comments, it certainly is a question mark.


Watch. The. Video.

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what about Larry Robinson?

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Watch. The. Video.
Can you point me in the direction of said video? I've wanted to watch it before commenting or making any judgement on the comments but haven't been able to find it which one was it said in?

Edit: nevermind I just found it


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The Caps need a coach that's going to adjust his system to best fit the personnel of the team--not force the players into a system that doesn't suit their strengths. Don't get me wrong, I don't want a coach to have a system where Ovie doesn't have to play defense, Green's shooting forward at every opportunity, etc.--it needs to be effective in all three zones. But I want a system that's able to take advantage of Ovie's offensive gifts, Green's breakout ability, etc.

This interview is one thing that's moved me towards the MacTavish bandwagon:

That and Nolan Baumgartner should be our captain.

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05-17-2012, 01:00 PM
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05-17-2012, 02:22 PM
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Sadly if things are as it seems they are (on some level) and McPhee is dictating the team style, none of what MacT says about a system based on the players on the roster matters.

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05-17-2012, 02:37 PM
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I understand the desire to return to a more offensive style system and one that's more suited to the players on the roster, but what forwards on the roster other than Ovechkin is such a system actually suited for, especially if Semin is not going to return. Are we wanting the return of such a system to entice Semin to re-up?

I think Backstrom is the type of player that can adapt to most coach's styles. Whereas, it's not so easy for the likes of Ovechkin and Semin. Fleischmann was more suited for the offensive system and perhaps MAJO is. So on the current roster it appears it's Ovie and MAJO if Semin does not come back.

Who else on the current roster would flourish in such a system as oppose to a system that was more weighted at the defensive end. Laich, Brouwer, Chimera, Hendricks, Ward, Beagle all seemed to be able to perform in the more blue collar style system which focused more on defense.

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05-17-2012, 02:46 PM
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SEMIN IS REPLACEABLE. It's up to McPhee to make that happen.


Semin coming back or not has no bearing on the future style/direction of this team.

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I understand the desire to return to a more offensive style system and one that's more suited to the players on the roster, but what forwards on the roster other than Ovechkin is such a system actually suited for, especially if Semin is not going to return. Are we wanting the return of such a system to entice Semin to re-up?

I think Backstrom is the type of player that can adapt to most coach's styles. Whereas, it's not so easy for the likes of Ovechkin and Semin. Fleischmann was more suited for the offensive system and perhaps MAJO is. So on the current roster it appears it's Ovie and MAJO if Semin does not come back.

Who else on the current roster would flourish in such a system as oppose to a system that was more weighted at the defensive end. Laich, Brouwer, Chimera, Hendricks, Ward, Beagle all seemed to be able to perform in the more blue collar style system which focused more on defense.
I don't know if I can handle 82 games worth of what we just saw.

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05-17-2012, 03:04 PM
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SEMIN IS REPLACEABLE. It's up to McPhee to make that happen.


Semin coming back or not has no bearing on the future style/direction of this team.

It's extremely easy to say that, but not nearly as easy to do it.

Right now, Semin isn't replaceable.

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05-17-2012, 03:08 PM
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Yeah George has to determine the identity and direction of the team.

Under Bruce's offensive ways, I think we were a few coaching moves away from going further. Checking line assignments / shadows. Defensive line matches at times. No, not to extremes like Dale did. But do fall back on depth when guys like Green and Semin are mummies on the ice, broken and completely ineffective. Using the number 1 G more when the backup shows signs of cracking.

Certainly GM saw we had powerhorse teams that were competitive and entertaining. More blow outs or blown out, while Dales teams were competitive but via coin flip tight games, not nearly as entertaining - as many pay to see the stars shine. He almost makes himself look dumb not using Ovi to the strengths that warranted the max contract he gave out.

We need a coach half way between Dale and Bruce. I will do it myself dammit.


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Semin is ONLY not replaceable in his fan's view. McPhee's JOB is to find a replacement and they're out there.

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Haha like who? And how much would they cost? Compared to resigning Semin which would cost nothing.

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Who McPhee could possibly trade for is up to him to identify. This is similar to the coaching decision. Fans are afraid nobody is out there they like. Fact is, it's not our job, nor are we likely to have the information as to who the candidates are for Semin's replacement or the head coach.

Don't be afraid just because you're not being spoonfed names you're comfortable with.

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Semin is ONLY not replaceable in his fan's view. McPhee's JOB is to find a replacement and they're out there.
McPhee's job is also to find a coach who gets the most out of the many talents of his players. How's that worked out so far...?

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