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05-17-2012, 12:31 PM
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Groups taking shape for Sochi 2014

Confirmed pools:

Group A
Russia
Slovakia
USA
Qualifier 3

Group B
Finland
Canada
Norway
Qualifier 2

Group C
Sweden
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Qualifer1


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05-17-2012, 12:42 PM
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Russia was already in a deadly group in 2010 so whatever

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Russia was already in a deadly group in 2010 so whatever
How did that work out for them?

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How did that work out for them?
They won the group.

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Slovakia and the US are deadly?.....

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Slovakia and the US are deadly?.....
Well, Slovakia is...

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Great we can play the host again. This time I'd prefer we lose in the prelims and win the gold medal game.

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Finland, Canada, Swiss could be tough. Swiss love to upset.

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They won the group.
I don't think that was their goal going into the Olympics. Buy hey, if it was, congrats on winning your group Russia!

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Okay well this is as accurate as I could get it thus far and this is if the obvious results occur in the qualification games played with the lower ranked teams.

GROUP A
Winner of Russia/Finland
United States
Slovakia
Denmark/Belarus

GROUP B
Loser of Russia/Finland
Canada
Norway
Latvia

GROUP C
Czech Republic
Sweden
Switzerland
Germany

Belarus or Denmark in GROUP A, winner of the qualification group gets to play in that.


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Could Canada still finish in 6th?

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Could Canada still finish in 6th?
No. The only change would be if Slovakia reaches the final, they'd overtake U.S and that group would shift, but that seems to be what the groups will look like come February 2014. I hope Finland loses thus giving a good group in my opinion, and it saves a game versus Russia for a knockout game.

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Yeah, I'd much rather take the Group B but let's take it one tournament at a time.

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Yeah, I'd much rather take the Group B but let's take it one tournament at a time.
Yah seems to be the safest group compared to the other two. The winner of the quarter final of Russia and Finland might have the toughest group for the Olympics.

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If it's the same format as last time (all teams advance to the knock stages) do the groups really matter?

I guess you could argue earning a bye would be nice but, at least based on 2010, it doesn't appear to offer any sort of advantage.

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If it's the same format as last time (all teams advance to the knock stages) do the groups really matter?

I guess you could argue earning a bye would be nice but, at least based on 2010, it doesn't appear to offer any sort of advantage.
Actually they mostly matter in who you will likely meet in the knockout rounds.

For example Russia or the US are likely to get an early date with Canada.

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Actually they mostly matter in who you will likely meet in the knockout rounds.

For example Russia or the US are likely to get an early date with Canada.
This is all hypothetical but the way I see it is, whoever wins between Canada and Finland in 2014 will potentially have a matchup in the quarters against one of(norway,belarus,swiss,germany,latvia...etc) meaning IF they move on, the earliest they would face a top 5 team is the semis which at least prepares whichever team for it's biggest test.


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If it's the same format as last time (all teams advance to the knock stages) do the groups really matter?
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The eight teams with the best records (the best two teams of each group and the two teams ranked third with the best record) advance to the quarter-finals.
So not all teams advance. The groups will really matter this time.

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So not all teams advance. The groups will really matter this time.
It's the same format as last time
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The format will be the same as 2010, there will be three groups of 4 to determine seeding, with four rounds of elimination games. Each group winner receives a bye into the second round, along with the best second place team.[5]

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My quote is from the IIHF website: http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/c.../olympics.html. Same info can also be found in the reference link of your quote. So there's an error in Wikipedia. Shocking news.

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Okay well this is as accurate as I could get it thus far and this is if the obvious results occur in the qualification games played with the lower ranked teams.

GROUP A
Winner of Russia/Finland
United States
Slovakia
Denmark/Belarus

GROUP B
Loser of Russia/Finland
Canada
Norway
Latvia

GROUP C
Czech Republic
Sweden
Switzerland
Germany

Belarus or Denmark in GROUP A, winner of the qualification group gets to play in that.
What they mean by Qualifier 1, Qualifier 2, Qualifier 3 is that the 3 qualifiers will be ranked by their world ranking & be seeded 10, 11 & 12. So if Germany qualifies it is likely to be Qualifier 1.

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My quote is from the IIHF website: http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/c.../olympics.html. Same info can also be found in the reference link of your quote. So there's an error in Wikipedia. Shocking news.
Yes, I see. According to the Games schedule, Women's Hockey ends on the 17th. Then there is hockey on the 18th, 19th, 21st, 22nd & the Final on the 23rd. So are there 2 QF each day as opposed to all 4 on the same day, or do the QF begin one day after the group stage ends?

http://www.sochi2014.com/games/sport...ames/schedule/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Winter_Olympics

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Just thought of something.

There is still a chance NHL players won't go!

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The positive thing is that we get to play in the weakest pool of the three pools for Sochi 2014. Finland is the only real test, which should have Rinne. We should have an easy first place finish. Should versus reality are two different things. We should have beaten Slovakia, but that did not turn out well. Hopefully Hockey Canada can get its act together after an early exit. The pools are confirmed below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc...inter_Olympics

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Just thought of something.

There is still a chance NHL players won't go!
Depends whose NHLers

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