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YT: Getzlaf's knee-on-knee hit on Juraj Mikus CAN vs SVK QF

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05-17-2012, 11:19 AM
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2 becomes 5 automatically when there's an injury per IIHF rules.
Seriously?

I haven't seen much of the tournament and didn't know that. But it seems like you couldn't create a better rule to encourage diving and embellishing injuries than that one.

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Seriously?

I haven't seen much of the tournament and didn't know that. But it seems like you couldn't create a better rule to encourage diving and embellishing injuries than that one.
Remember that this is the IIHF you're talking about.

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05-17-2012, 11:21 AM
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I don't think he was faking it but there is no need for a grown man to do a couple extra barrel rolls and go into the fetal position and do the sideways worm.
You ever had your knee ****ed up? Me neither, but I can only imagine how painful that must be.

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2 becomes 5 automatically when there's an injury per IIHF rules.
How and who is the one to diagnose these injuries? Not saying you made the rule, just pointing out its absolute absurdity. It without a doubt encourages embellishment. The fact of the matter is its a 2 minute penalty but becomes a 5 minute penalty because Mikus appears hurt, whether or not he is. Who knows, he may be.

And I love how people think the camera in the tunnel is considered behind closed doors.

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You ever had your knee ****ed up? Me neither, but I can only imagine how painful that must be.
As I was in that situation once I can confirm that. And additionally you are shocked. I afterwards didn't know what had happend and what I did just in the seconds after the injury.

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2 becomes 5 automatically when there's an injury per IIHF rules.
This is why I love international hockey.

Great call..

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OT: Still surprised, that there are 2 Juraj Mikus' playing professional hockey.

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You ever had your knee ****ed up? Me neither, but I can only imagine how painful that must be.
As someone who had his knee ****ed up (not once but twice, once a meniscus tear, the other time a ligament tear) it hurts like hell, you can't imagine how painful it is until you experience it first hand.

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Bad move by Getzlaf.

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Stupid rule IMO...2 minutes max, bonehead move on the hit late in the game but it didn't deserve 5 and a game.

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The is def. worth 5 minutes to anyone that isnt biased. I guess the IIHF rules is that a 5 min penalty is an autmatic game penalty.

There is a reason why knee on knee's a punsihed hard, and that is the injury risk.

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Stupid rule IMO...2 minutes max, bonehead move on the hit late in the game but it didn't deserve 5 and a game.
Lol if it happened in NHL game, there would already be a 1000 posts' thread with a lot of cursing and calling all the worst on Cetzlaf's head. And I bet he'd be suspended as well.

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Lol if it happened in NHL game, there would already be a 1000 posts' thread with a lot of cursing and calling all the worst on Cetzlaf's head. And I bet he'd be suspended as well.
This is very true, but when the homer glases are on, some people just cant see the truth.

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05-17-2012, 12:20 PM
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Seriously?

I haven't seen much of the tournament and didn't know that. But it seems like you couldn't create a better rule to encourage diving and embellishing injuries than that one.
Do u understand that calls like that are here to stay thx to NHL. NHL clubs are afraid to let the players represent their country because of potential injuries. Thus international community needed to pass rules to eliminate the probability of injuries straight ahead.

btw: The NHL stance on Olympics is simply laughable.

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Lol if it happened in NHL game, there would already be a 1000 posts' thread with a lot of cursing and calling all the worst on Cetzlaf's head. And I bet he'd be suspended as well.
Just about to say this. If he was wearing a Ducks jersey, especially.

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05-17-2012, 01:49 PM
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As a Ducks fan, I hope Getz didn't hurt his knee
on this play. Not only is there a heck of a party in Helsinki tonight,
the bar scene is just ramping up in Newport BEach.
Maybe Ms. Orange County will be impressed that he knows Teemu?

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Lol if it happened in NHL game, there would already be a 1000 posts' thread with a lot of cursing and calling all the worst on Cetzlaf's head. And I bet he'd be suspended as well.
You mean like Morris' suspension for his hit last game?

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A question for those claiming this should have been 2 mins, what kind of a knee on knee hit would it take to have major penalty in the NHL?

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Seriously?

I haven't seen much of the tournament and didn't know that. But it seems like you couldn't create a better rule to encourage diving and embellishing injuries than that one.
Honestly, they should just inherit Football (Soccer) rules for IIHF tournaments. You get tapped, you fall down and flail and get a penalty against the opponent...

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05-17-2012, 05:14 PM
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The is def. worth 5 minutes to anyone that isnt biased. I guess the IIHF rules is that a 5 min penalty is an autmatic game penalty.

There is a reason why knee on knee's a punsihed hard, and that is the injury risk.
Agree. Clearly a 5 min pen, according to the rules anyway.

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Looks to me like he tried to do a cute move and got caught doing so.
thats what 99% of knee on knees are

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Clearly a penalty, IMHO.

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Looks more wreckless than intentional.

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Getzlaf went for the check and unfortunately missed it, but he never tried to knee him. An accident. I'm sure that hurt a lot, but a major when it wasn't on purpose seems a bit strict to me. Getzlafs leg barely moves, and it's just to position himself for the hit.

If the IIHF rules are 5 minutes if the player gets injured then I guess it was 5, but imo when he clearly didn't intend to do it, he shouldn't serve more than 2.

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That looked a lot like the Doan hit that was 5 and game in Game 2 of Kings-Coyotes. Player A goes to make a legal hit, Player B puts himself in a vulnerable position at the last second, and Player A has no time to react, resulting in a dangerous looking hit. It is definitely a gray area penalty because Player B is just as responsible for getting himself hurt as Player A.

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