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05-17-2012, 01:58 PM
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CLB - Col

To CLB - Paul Stastny, Tyson Barrie, 2nd
To Col - Rick Nash

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05-17-2012, 02:06 PM
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Reasonable, but no thanks. Nash would look good playing with Stastny, not being acquired for Stastny.

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05-17-2012, 02:14 PM
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Reasonable, but no thanks. Nash would look good playing with Stastny, not being acquired for Stastny.
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05-17-2012, 02:17 PM
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What about something like Duchene, Stoa, and a 2nd for Nash?

I think some more balancing could be done but Duchene seems to be on the outs with the current org in Col with O'Reilly and Stastny in place as the top two C.

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What about something like Duchene, Stoa, and a 2nd for Nash?

I think some more balancing could be done but Duchene seems to be on the outs with the current org in Col with O'Reilly and Stastny in place as the top two C.
That looks good to I was just thinking Col would want tobe a little closer with the salaries

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Good proposal. I think CLB would as for a 1st however

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If it's for Duchene it's straight up and just FTR Duchene isn't at odds with management in Colorado.

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05-17-2012, 02:27 PM
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That looks good to I was just thinking Col would want tobe a little closer with the salaries
Peter Mueller has always been a curiosity to me. I know some fellow CBJ fans that don't want to take on salary but I won't mind seeing was a 2 mil hit from him would look like for a year.

Part of the problem as I see it is that after going into year Col only has 8 players signed (Duchene and Mueller being RFA). What you might want instead is some cheaper players coming back as well. How about something like:

Col: Duchene, Stoa, 1st, Mueller (?)

CBJ: Nash, Calvert (rated higher per HF than Stoa)

I'm picking on Mueller because he seems like a half liability (like Martinek was going into this year). He only played 30 odd games this year and did not play the season before. The most he has played was 69 games split between Pho and Col with 13 g and 37 pts.

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05-17-2012, 02:28 PM
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There's no way the Avs move Duchene for Nash straight up, let alone add. The cap space is immaterial, AFIAK they've already said they're not looking to add big contracts this summer.

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05-17-2012, 02:29 PM
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Good proposal. I think CLB would as for a 1st however
Clb 1st went to Was thats why I didn't add it

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If it's for Duchene it's straight up and just FTR Duchene isn't at odds with management in Colorado.
Didn't you know that "being injured for most of the year" is the new euphamism for being at odds with management?

I'd consider Duchene and Stoa for Nash. Stoa has had several chances to make the NHL and hasn't shown much, so his value is low. But in the end, I'd probably just keep Duchene, since having 4 solid Cs is a good thing.

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05-17-2012, 02:37 PM
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Peter Mueller has always been a curiosity to me. I know some fellow CBJ fans that don't want to take on salary but I won't mind seeing was a 2 mil hit from him would look like for a year.

Part of the problem as I see it is that after going into year Col only has 8 players signed (Duchene and Mueller being RFA). What you might want instead is some cheaper players coming back as well. How about something like:

Col: Duchene, Stoa, 1st, Mueller (?)

CBJ: Nash, Calvert (rated higher per HF than Stoa)

I'm picking on Mueller because he seems like a half liability (like Martinek was going into this year). He only played 30 odd games this year and did not play the season before. The most he has played was 69 games split between Pho and Col with 13 g and 37 pts.
Mueller scored 20 points in 15 games when he got to Colorado playing alongside Duchene, Avs didn't spent a whole year waiting for him to get better to trade him now.

Duchene for Nash straight up is pushing it from Avs POV when you take Duchene's age, what he's showen in the NHL thus far, potential and when you compare his and Nash's contract status.

And I doubt Colorado is on Nash's shortlist anyway.

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Big no thanks for me.

AS others have said, if we were aquiring Nash it would be to play with Stastny, not in a trade for Stastny.

Plus, I think the difference between Nash and Stastny is very small, certainly not Barrie AND a 2nd.

The most I would add to Stastny for Nash is just a 2nd, and thats pushing it. Stastny might have a bad contract, but Nash has an even worse contract.

Duchene for Nash is tempting, but only 1 for 1. Duchene is only 21 years old, and has already had a Season equal to Nash's 3rd bes season. And Duchene plays the more important position.

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To CLB - Paul Stastny, Tyson Barrie, 2nd
To Col - Rick Nash
Ennnnh. We have no use for Barrie, really. What we're really going to need are top-6 wingers... and yes, I'm aware that's the last thing one should ask for from Colorado.

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Mueller scored 20 points in 15 games when he got to Colorado playing alongside Duchene, Avs didn't spent a whole year waiting for him to get better to trade him now.

Duchene for Nash straight up is pushing it from Avs POV when you take Duchene's age, what he's showen in the NHL thus far, potential and when you compare his and Nash's contract status.

And I doubt Colorado is on Nash's shortlist anyway.
Eh someone brought up money. Either way I'm fine with it. I liked Stoa in college but he's honestly expected to be a career AHLer. I doubt it is as well, but no one knows for sure and since the thread got started why not jump on board and have fun.

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The most I would add to Stastny for Nash is just a 2nd, and thats pushing it.
Don't act like a sheep, Nash is an extremely good player and HFBoards has a beyond ridiculous hate for him.

But he is Stastny's ideal linemate, not trade bait.

I'd love to acquire Nash, but I don't think there is a deal to be made between our clubs.

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05-17-2012, 03:36 PM
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Clb 1st went to Was thats why I didn't add it
uhh what?

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uhh what?
he meant colorados

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Don't act like a sheep, Nash is an extremely good player and HFBoards has a beyond ridiculous hate for him.

But he is Stastny's ideal linemate, not trade bait.

I'd love to acquire Nash, but I don't think there is a deal to be made between our clubs.
agreed, I am not sure what this underrating of nash has come from but its ridiculous on here easily one of the top players in the league just stuck in mediocrity for his entire career

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agreed, I am not sure what this underrating of nash has come from but its ridiculous on here easily one of the top players in the league just stuck in mediocrity for his entire career
So far as I can tell there's, like, carpetbomb-level coverage of his every move in Toronto in which he's hailed as Gordie Howe's understudy or something. Folks are sick of hearing about him, and so the grapes are very definitely sour.

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how about brassard, LA's 1st and maybe another piece for Statsny?

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how about brassard, LA's 1st and maybe another piece for Statsny?
We're not trading Stastny for lesser pieces, if he gets moved it will be for a 1st pairing LH D-man.

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Look to be honest if It's Duchene then CBJ pretty much has to add because of Nash's salary.

I would consider it straight up for O'Reilly and we would need to add to Stastny (Although he makes the least amount of sense.)

Call me crazy if you want but there is going to be a bidding war for whichever center we want to move this off-season and Staal. A 21 year old franchise center with what will probably be a very cheap contract would have a little more value than Nash.

Younger, cheaper, and more important on ice position...

I could see Nash + JJ for Duchene + Mueller + 1st


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how about brassard, LA's 1st and maybe another piece for Statsny?
Absolutely not.

Honestly, I would probably consider the OP then say no...doubt Nash would waive to Colorado anyways.

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Absolutely not.

Honestly, I would probably consider the OP then say no...doubt Nash would waive to Colorado anyways.
Id do Nash for Duchene and a conditional 1st

the first being conditional on if duchene doesnt score within 20 points of Nash, I could see Rick getting 80-to 90 with Stasny to be honest

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