WC: What Euro-league players consistently outperform NHL'ers?

[tarheelhockey]

What players from European leagues consistently have better World Championship tournaments than their NHL counterparts? Ideally players who don't just have good stats from playing weak countries, but those who actually go head-to-head with top opponents and look good.

By "consistently", I mean 3 times or more.

[Everlasting]

Everyone was better then Hedman.

[slovakiasnextone]

Originally Posted by Robin929

Everyone was better then Hedman.

Oh come on, that´s not what the OP was asking at all.

[Qurpiz]

Jarkko Immonen (this tournament notwithstanding)
Niko Kapanen
That one line from Russia that play together in KHL

[wings5]

Consistantly? None really come to mind...

[WJG]

Mattias Weinhandl

[Dosing]

Originally Posted by slovakiasnextone

Oh come on, that´s not what the OP was asking at all.

Depends how you look at it, if everyone was better then hedman which they were you could just name any non-nhl player you want

[Den]

Some Russian names: Nikulin, Morozov-Zaripov-Zinov'ev in the past, Tereschenko, Gorovikov.

[Den]

Tony Mårtensson

[SPMaximus]

Petri Vehanen was pretty awesome last year

if he were younger i think he could be an NHL starter

and hes been solid so far this year, even if he hasnt been as tested yet

[slovakiasnextone]

Originally Posted by Dosing

Depends how you look at it, if everyone was better then hedman which they were you could just name any non-nhl player you want

The OP was asking about Euro players who were better than NHLers consistently for a longer period of time, around at least 3 years. How can you determine such players by comparing them to a guy who has played only his 2nd WC as an NHLer (and AFAIK he wasn´t that bad in his first one)

[Muuri]

Ville Peltonen used to be.

[Zine]

Ilya Nikulin

[ThrashersfanSVK]

Jörgen Jönsson and Jiří Dopita used to be considered as the best players outside the NHL.

When Dopita came to the NHL, he was a disappointment (even though he scored 4 goals to Atlanta, well, yeah, but if I take into account that 4 goals in one game scored also Pascal Rheaume, I have to think about difficulty of this task...)

[MrJonas]

Both Kenny and Jörgen Jönsson were consistenly elite in international tournaments, both before and after playing in the NHL.

[TollefsenFan]

Originally Posted by tarheelhockey

What players from European leagues consistently have better World Championship tournaments than their NHL counterparts? Ideally players who don't just have good stats from playing weak countries, but those who actually go head-to-head with top opponents and look good.

By "consistently", I mean 3 times or more.

Patrick Thoresen.

5 assists in 4 games in the Vancouver olympics.

The topscorer after the first 3 games in 2010 whc (with 6 points in 3 games vs Sweden, Czech rep and France. Two points in each game. He was the topscorer after the preliminary rounds if im not mistaken.)

And the topscorer so far in this whc (18 points. 2 points in the QF vs Russia, 1 point vs the czech rep and 1 point vs Russia).

Edit: I also wanna ad that Thoresen is good defensively. Its not only about scoring, but also about helping the defence. And he always does a very good job in his own zone (blocking shots, working hard along the boards etc).

[Den]

Martin Prochazka and Pavel Patera

[Peter25]

Krutov, Larionov, Makarov, Fetisov, Kasatonov.

They won most of the WC's in the 1980's and also won all three Canada Cups in 1981, 1984 and 1987.

[FiLe]

At least what comes to the members of the elite, we could say pretty much any non-NHLer who has represented his country for three tournaments or more.

[Den]

Originally Posted by Peter25

Krutov, Larionov, Makarov, Fetisov, Kasatonov.

I guess the question is about the relatively recent tournies, because otherwise, one can just paste copy Soviet rosters.

Originally Posted by Peter25

also won all three Canada Cups in 1981, 1984 and 1987.

That's is in a Canada on Mars I assume?

[Peter25]

Originally Posted by Den

That's is in a Canada on Mars I assume?

Yes, I am half-trolling. Let's just say that neither team won in 1987 but it was Don Koharski that won the tournament.

[Peter25]

From current players:

Cervenka, Nikulin, Perezhogin, Immonen, Mårtensson, Thoresen, Weinhandl, Komarov, Nemec, Kuznetsov, Kontiola, Väänänen, Medvedev, Dallman... basically the elite players from the KHL and few from other Euro leagues.

[Noma]

Alexei Kalyuzhny is a name that comes immediately to my mind. Morten Ask is another one that always performs well.

[TollefsenFan]

Originally Posted by Noma

Alexei Kalyuzhny is a name that comes immediately to my mind. Morten Ask is another one that always performs well.

Not Morten Ask. He is not good enough, but he plays well vs weaker teams. And he is usefull on PK. But i wouldnt compare him to NHL players.

[Den]

Originally Posted by Peter25

Medvedev, Dallman.

These two consistently performed in 0 WC's to date