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05-18-2012, 06:17 PM
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is one fabian brunnstrom not enough? do we need more of them? what about getting some player what improve the team NOW instead of not or maybe in 5 years.
ok, he is good in this league. but this is not the nhl. i would bet cleary would be the super star in this league.
no thx. no more fringe player. we got 3 and a half lines full of them.

pls ken holland, get some player we really need. dont waste your time and energie on searching for panice moves.

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is one fabian brunnstrom not enough? do we need more of them? what about getting some player what improve the team NOW instead of not or maybe in 5 years.
ok, he is good in this league. but this is not the nhl. i would bet cleary would be the super star in this league.
no thx. no more fringe player. we got 3 and a half lines full of them.

pls ken holland, get some player we really need. dont waste your time and energie on searching for panice moves.
Unless he knocks socks off at camp or something he'd obviously be playing in GR for a while. Close to zero risk signing guys like this. Fact that he starts out in GR could keep him from signing though.

Depth is not a bad thing.

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The risk is that this guy gets time in the minors "developing" that could be spent on somebody else.

I know that's not a significant risk, but it would still irk me if he didn't pan out ala Brunnstrom.

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The risk is that this guy gets time in the minors "developing" that could be spent on somebody else.

I know that's not a significant risk, but it would still irk me if he didn't pan out ala Brunnstrom.
Brunnstrom panned out - just not in the league we expected him to.

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The risk is that this guy gets time in the minors "developing" that could be spent on somebody else.

I know that's not a significant risk, but it would still irk me if he didn't pan out ala Brunnstrom.
I agree in a sense, but on the other hand, are there really that many dynamite prospects in GR he'd be taking significant time away from?

At worst, he knocks off someone like Jamie Johnson or Chris Minard (or others of that ilk); guys that are already in their 30's and have no future with this team anyway. We know they like to stock the roster with extra bodies (IE non-Wings prospects) in GR as it is, so it might as well be someone who may still have a glimmer of NHL potential.

I won't lose sleep if they don't get him - after all, we "won" the Ville Leino sweepstakes and look how that turned out - but I still wouldn't mind giving him a chance anyway just for the heck of it. As I said earlier; if he doesn't pan out, swap him for a pick or something. Not the worst thing in the world.

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The risk is that this guy gets time in the minors "developing" that could be spent on somebody else.

I know that's not a significant risk, but it would still irk me if he didn't pan out ala Brunnstrom.
If he was sent to the minors, I think it's likely he'd go back to Switzerland

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I agree in a sense, but on the other hand, are there really that many dynamite prospects in GR he'd be taking significant time away from?
Exactly. We're hitting the bottom of the cupboard as far as prospects go. None of them are surefire success stories, but we're down to Nyquist, Tatar, Pulkinnen, Jurco, and Smith to be our stars some day. Nyquist is likely to be up full time this year and Tatar will be spending a great deal of time up in the big club, too.

There's not really a risk of taking development time away from valued prospects. We need to restock, and if we can do that with Euro signings and tryouts instead of waiting for drafts, let's do that.

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I really don't understand why people are comparing Brunner and Leino to Brunnström, since he has close to nothing in common with them. Fabian had basically played two NHL seasons before he came to Detroit and in one of them he was over a half a point per game.

I think he could be pretty good if he gets one season to get used to the new culture both on and off the ice. So the Wings won't probably get him because some team will offer him a roster spot for next season.

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I know he's obviously been horrible this year, but I think Leino's PPG playoffs a few years back show that he could be effective when used correctly. To me his failures stem from personal motivation/laziness and incorrect use rather than devloping improperly. He didn't look much out of place his first few games in NA
He is a below average skater and a streaky player. When things don't go well for those guys they have prolonged slumps. Think Hudler a year ago, Brad Boyes is another great example.

What intrigues me about Brunner is that he has NHL speed, no question about that. He might not have the hands that Leino has but he has a much better compete level and could see him actually fitting in on a third line while he earns more minutes.

Even though a lot of people are piling on Brunnstrom, He isn't finished yet my opinion, because he has solid measurements and good skills to go along with the fact he has a productive NHL season on his resume.

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I really don't understand why people are comparing Brunner and Leino to Brunnström, since he has close to nothing in common with them. Fabian had basically played two NHL seasons before he came to Detroit and in one of them he was over a half a point per game.

I think he could be pretty good if he gets one season to get used to the new culture both on and off the ice. So the Wings won't probably get him because some team will offer him a roster spot for next season.
Talk to Dallas fans about Brunnstrom and you'll get the real story to his time there. The guy is, flat out, a liability with the puck. For every nice play he makes, you'll have 3 turnovers. NHL defenders eat him alive. Nobody is denying his skill with the puck, but he's not quick enough or strong enough to play his brand of game in the NHL.

15% of his goals came in his first game. What more can you say about that? One hit wonder.

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Talk to Dallas fans about Brunnstrom and you'll get the real story to his time there. The guy is, flat out, a liability with the puck. For every nice play he makes, you'll have 3 turnovers. NHL defenders eat him alive. Nobody is denying his skill with the puck, but he's not quick enough or strong enough to play his brand of game in the NHL.

15% of his goals came in his first game. What more can you say about that? One hit wonder.
Yea I know the story. I just mean their situations are completely different, so it's weird to compare them. Also, I don't know if Brunnström had any other offers on the table than Detroits, so would've he been "KHL-bound" if the Wings didn't give him a chance?

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Yea I know the story. I just mean their situations are completely different, so it's weird to compare them. Also, I don't know if Brunnström had any other offers on the table than Detroits, so would've he been "KHL-bound" if the Wings didn't give him a chance?
Their situations are different now. People are using Brunnstrom as an example of an older, unsigned European player that had a dozen teams trying to woo him to sign. And the end result of all these signings is a marginal talent who typically wants NHL ice time despite having done nothing to earn it.

Brunnstrom signed with Dallas because they promised him he'd play in the NHL immediately. He showed some glimmer of promise (for like 3 months) then disappeared into an AHL player. The Red Wings were smart at the time, in 2008, not to promise him NHL minutes.

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Damien Brunner to the Red Wings?

http://www.blick.ch/sport/eishockey/...id1934770.html

It's in german. It says there's three teams still interested but from the US, it's known that his choice is the Red Wings.

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decision

Blick.ch a swiss newspaper told that Brunner made his decision for the red wings, blick is a Boulevard newspaper, so it's Not 100% Sure but it's likely to happen.

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on that note....

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is one fabian brunnstrom not enough? do we need more of them? what about getting some player what improve the team NOW instead of not or maybe in 5 years.
ok, he is good in this league. but this is not the nhl. i would bet cleary would be the super star in this league.
no thx. no more fringe player. we got 3 and a half lines full of them.

pls ken holland, get some player we really need. dont waste your time and energie on searching for panice moves.
so just because of Brunnström you dont want to go after the top players still in Europe? atleast give him the chance to prove himself before judging. In my opinion he have everything to succeed in NHL. If not offensively; I still believe he could be useful in other roles.

I'd be very happy if he signed with Detroit.

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This guy has tremendous speed. Curious to see what he can do on the Helm's wing.

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so just because of Brunnström you dont want to go after the top players still in Europe? atleast give him the chance to prove himself before judging. In my opinion he have everything to succeed in NHL. If not offensively; I still believe he could be useful in other roles.

I'd be very happy if he signed with Detroit.
Exactly. At this point it's pretty low risk with a potential high reward.

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Not doing cartwheels over it but they do need more speed. In his mid-20s, he's past development stage...it's more about fine-tuning his game at this point. I see him as a 3rd liner.

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The way I see it, he's Jiri Hudler's replacement. Could potentially be much more useful than he was.

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The way I see it, he's Jiri Hudler's replacement. Could potentially be much more useful than he was.
We all thought that about Leino too.


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The way I see it, he's Jiri Hudler's replacement. Could potentially be much more useful than he was.
Wrote it on the trade boards and I agree. Don't know about more useful but a lot cheaper. Doesn't affect any other signings so it's all good.

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Wrote it on the trade boards and I agree. Don't know about more useful but a lot cheaper. Doesn't affect any other signings so it's all good.
If he has better wheels than Huds and equal or better hands, I think he'd be an improvement in some ways. But I'm not getting ahead of myself expecting 25 goals or anything like that.

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IMO, this guy will be battling for a roster spot, not filling in for Hudler.
He probably goes back to Switzerland if he does not make the team.

I think Nyquist is more likely to replace Hudler

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