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05-18-2012, 10:50 PM
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And I dont se how adding a star like Nash to play with thornton in exchange for your third center cant make u a "better" team.
There was huge expectations when Heatley came over that fell short. Forgive us for being weary of doing it again...

And calling him a third line center is disingenuous. He was (last year) a "third line center" in the same way that Staal is one.

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There was huge expectations when Heatley came over that fell short. Forgive us for being weary of doing it again...

And calling him a third line center is disingenuous. He was (last year) a "third line center" in the same way that Staal is one.
I can understand that after what happened with heatley, and pavelski is a great third line center, not arguing that. Im just saying that sometimes you gotta take chances to win. I would rather have the cup then those 3.8m I didnt spend on someone like Nash.

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I can understand that after what happened with heatley, and pavelski is a great third line center, not arguing that. Im just saying that sometimes you gotta take chances to win. I would rather have the cup then those 3.8m I didnt spend on someone like Nash.
Nash is not going to turn a team that got bounced in five games into a Cup winner. Sorry, he's not that good.

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Nash is not going to turn a team that got bounced in five games into a Cup winner. Sorry, he's not that good.
Maybe not on his own, but with thornton by his side. I think thats sounds pretty good. You will be closer to the cup with him then without him. Or you could try to get parise, works either way

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Maybe not on his own, but with thornton by his side. I think thats sounds pretty good. You will be closer to the cup with him then without him. Or you could try to get parise, works either way
One line doesn't make you a Cup contender. And the Sharks will be further away from the Cup substituting Rick Nash for Joe Pavelski.

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One line doesn't make you a Cup contender. And the Sharks will be further away from the Cup substituting Rick Nash for Joe Pavelski.
Well good luck next year anyway. and even if you dont win the cup, you save 3.8m.

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Well good luck next year anyway. and even if you dont win the cup, you save 3.8m.
We won't be winning the cup next season, we've pretty much agreed to that as a group. Too many issues, and T-mac didn't get fired.

Most of us want to mini-rebuild, so Nash is the opposite of what we want to see happen.

I totally expect him in teal next season though. Be kind of shocked if he isn't. Hopefully its Doug Wilsons last idiotic move.

And Joe Pavelski is a top end 2nd line center btw, as good as any team could hope for (ie: Not #1 centers on the second line like Malkin).

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I can see him on the Sharks.

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How about a 3 team deal?
CLB gets #1 overall, NYR 1st rd pick and Christian Thomas

NYR get Nash

EDM gets Del zotto, Dubinsky and LA's 1st rd this season from CLB

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How about a 3 team deal?
CLB gets #1 overall, NYR 1st rd pick and Christian Thomas

NYR get Nash

EDM gets Del zotto, Dubinsky and LA's 1st rd this season from CLB
Del Zotto was a deal-breaker for NYR when it was just between us and them. I can't imagine inserting Edmonton into the discussion would make it any more palatable.

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How about a 3 team deal?
CLB gets #1 overall, NYR 1st rd pick and Christian Thomas

NYR get Nash

EDM gets Del zotto, Dubinsky and LA's 1st rd this season from CLB
not good enough for the 1st OA. MDZ is nice, but we dont need, or possibly even want dubinsky, and a late 1st offers only a small amount of value

could do something like 1st OA+gagner for MDZ+2OA/johansen/Staal/Girardi


to CBJ: 1st OA, Gagner, Dubinsky

To NYR: Nash, Tyutin

To EDM: MDZ, Girardi



best i can come up with, but of course that will not be liked by anyone.


hell im not even sure most oilers fan would take that deal.


nash+27-30OA does not get you 1OA alone, let alone with the ++. (why do you even include the NYR/LA picks? they have the same value)

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not good enough for the 1st OA. MDZ is nice, but we dont need, or possibly even want dubinsky, and a late 1st offers only a small amount of value

could do something like 1st OA+gagner for MDZ+2OA/johansen/Staal/Girardi


to CBJ: 1st OA, Gagner, Dubinsky

To NYR: Nash, Tyutin

To EDM: MDZ, Girardi



best i can come up with, but of course that will not be liked by anyone.


hell im not even sure most oilers fan would take that deal.


nash+27-30OA does not get you 1OA alone, let alone with the ++. (why do you even include the NYR/LA picks? they have the same value)
Read My Signature. And then never even mention his name again.

We can't trade Tyutin without getting a blueline upgrade back. Trading him and Nash for a winger who our third-liners outscored and a third tweener center would be rather disastrous. We don't need the 1st overall that badly.

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