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05-19-2012, 10:30 AM
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Just for *hits and gigs please kindly comment on value.
Kipper Reinhart and 2014 2nd for Kadri and 5th overall
Kipper to chicago for Morin, Crawford and 18-20th overall
Kipper + 20123rd to Tampa bay for tenth overall
How is the value for each trade ?

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05-19-2012, 10:32 AM
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Wait a minute... If it's a goalie who hasn't been talked about yet, and we talk about him because he hasn't been talked about yet, doesn't that mean he's been talked about...?


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Just for *hits and gigs please kindly comment on value.

Kipper Reinhart and 2014 2nd for Kadri and 5th overall
I dropped better value in the toilet this morning

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05-19-2012, 10:52 AM
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no one else is talking about him.
Ryan Miller
Niklas Backstrom
Cam Ward

Eklund's a moron though so...

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05-19-2012, 10:58 AM
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Eklund said top end though.


Miller to Detroit.
He did say top end which seems to disqualify Ryan Miller...

My guess is perhaps Pekka Rinne? He did recently re-sign though, but I could see the Preds unhappy with his lack of playoff success.

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05-19-2012, 11:01 AM
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i dare you to find one

im not against the idea of trading price in general, but the price would be as steep as it gets since he's the guy basically holding this franchise together.
Not trying to start anything....there were some in the Luongo thread that liked him.

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05-19-2012, 11:08 AM
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He did say top end which seems to disqualify Ryan Miller...
You are in the minority with that opinion.

A Vezina and an Olympic MVP is nothing to scoff at.

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05-19-2012, 11:12 AM
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You are in the minority with that opinion.

A Vezina and an Olympic MVP is nothing to scoff at.
1-year wonder. He's been average/slightly above average ever since, and before that one year. He is not one of these "without question top goalies" that Eklund is referring to.

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Wouldn't be surprised if it was Backstrom. Let Harding and Hackett fight it out.

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This is the internet Eklund, every goalie has been talked about by now.

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05-19-2012, 11:18 AM
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1-year wonder. He's been average/slightly above average ever since, and before that one year. He is not one of these "without question top goalies" that Eklund is referring to.
Could I see your list of current top end goalies then? Should be a list of about 10-15.

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Wait a minute... If it's a goalie who hasn't been talked about yet, and we talk about him because he hasn't been talked about yet, doesn't that mean he's been talked about...?

Its Brodeur.

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A ? for fans of other teams (especially those who need a goalie): Would you take Backstrom and his contract and if so, what would you give up?

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05-19-2012, 11:24 AM
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A ? for fans of other teams (especially those who need a goalie): Would you take Backstrom and his contract and if so, what would you give up?
Yes, probably a combination of picks and prospects.

How's his health?

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How fun would it be if, at the draft, a starter gets dealt, Eklund says "I told you so, this was the deal I was talking about", and then a real top goaler gets dealt in the next half hour...

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Could I see your list of current top end goalies then? Should be a list of about 10-15.
10-15 is where I have Miller actually. When we are talking about top end goalies I'm thinking top 3, maybe top 5.

Top 5 I have:

Lundqvist
Quick
Thomas
Luongo
Rinne

and then the next tier

Price
Halak
Kiprusoff
Lehtonen
Howard

and based on this list, we know Luongo has been talked about, Thomas has been talked about, and if you go a tier down Kiprusoff has been talked about. Howard/Lehtonen/Halak really don't strike me as the types of goalies who would garner a huge "oh wow" type of tweet from Eklund. So, my conclusion is that it has to be either Price (who I've heard is asking for Rinne type money/term), or Pekka Rinne. I really can't see Lundqvist or Quick being shopped considering they're still playing and playing well these playoffs.

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Yes, probably a combination of picks and prospects.

How's his health?
IDK, im not a Wild fan. Can Tampa afford to take that salary without sending salary back? I know you have a lot of cap space this summer, but you also have a ton of free agents to sign to fill out the roster.

6M on Backstrom means about 10m for: 4 or 5 forwards and 3 dmen.

Even if we assume that most of those are bottom of the roster kind of guys.... that's not a lot of money.

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Guys... please stop bashing one another and carry on with the discussion. If you cannot agree - ignore the user/thread and move on.

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IDK, im not a Wild fan. Can Tampa afford to take that salary without sending salary back? I know you have a lot of cap space this summer, but you also have a ton of free agents to sign to fill out the roster.

6M on Backstrom means about 10m for: 4 or 5 forwards and 3 dmen.

Even if we assume that most of those are bottom of the roster kind of guys.... that's not a lot of money.
I'm not sure that Backstrom is a "top" goalie. He's certainly a good goalie and would help out a lot of teams (Tampa being one). Then again, it makes sense given Minnesota's goaltending situation, and the fact that Eklund will want to hype his blogs with these sort of buzz words.

Backstrom to Tampa or even Toronto makes a lot of sense.

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05-19-2012, 11:39 AM
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IDK, im not a Wild fan. Can Tampa afford to take that salary without sending salary back? I know you have a lot of cap space this summer, but you also have a ton of free agents to sign to fill out the roster.

6M on Backstrom means about 10m for: 4 or 5 forwards and 3 dmen.

Even if we assume that most of those are bottom of the roster kind of guys.... that's not a lot of money.
One more year at 6m isn't too bad. Depends on if Ohlund retires or goes on LTIR though. If he doesn't then it might be a tight fit. Most free agents are bottom roster guys, with the exception of us needing one top4 dman.

I'd like Backstrom on Tampa, not so sure Yzerman will do it though.

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10-15 is where I have Miller actually. When we are talking about top end goalies I'm thinking top 3, maybe top 5.

Top 5 I have:

Lundqvist
Quick
Thomas
Luongo
Rinne

and then the next tier

Price
Halak
Kiprusoff
Lehtonen
Howard

and based on this list, we know Luongo has been talked about, Thomas has been talked about, and if you go a tier down Kiprusoff has been talked about. Howard/Lehtonen/Halak really don't strike me as the types of goalies who would garner a huge "oh wow" type of tweet from Eklund. So, my conclusion is that it has to be either Price (who I've heard is asking for Rinne type money/term), or Pekka Rinne. I really can't see Lundqvist or Quick being shopped considering they're still playing and playing well these playoffs.
Luongo = top 5.
Miller = might crack the top 15.


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Just for *hits and gigs please kindly comment on value.
Kipper Reinhart and 2014 2nd for Kadri and 5th overall
Kipper to chicago for Morin, Crawford and 18-20th overall
Kipper + 20123rd to Tampa bay for tenth overall
How is the value for each trade ?
Not a chance from Toronto.

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HF Top 13 NHL Goalies.

#1 - Henrik Lundqvist - New York Rangers
#2 - Pekka Rinne - Nashville Predators
#3 - Jonathan Quick - Los Angeles Kings
#4 - Tim Thomas - Boston Bruins
#5 - Carey Price - Montreal Canadiens
#6 - Cam Ward - Carolina Hurricanes
#7 - Roberto Luongo - Vancouver Canucks
#8 - Ryan Miller - Buffalo Sabres
#9 - Miikka Kiprusoff - Calgary Flames
#10 - Kari Lehtonen - Dallas Stars
#11 - Niklas Backstrom - Minnesota Wild
#12 - Marc-Andre Fleury - Pittsburgh Penguins
#13 - Jonas Hiller - Anaheim Ducks

Who could it be? I would assume top 10...Also one who has not been talked about recently. Must be Carey Price! =P

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