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05-15-2012, 01:34 PM
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Coyle wins Q MVP!
Yea, its in the Prospects thread. Playoffs Q MVP, makes it all the better.

Galiev tied him with points, though. Can't forget that.

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Fantastic news. I really do think this was best for his development and confidence.

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Very good news!

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Yea, its in the Prospects thread. Playoffs Q MVP, makes it all the better.

Galiev tied him with points, though. Can't forget that.
Did know, sorry. Just wanted to spread the word.

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05-20-2012, 06:05 AM
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What does he need to improve? Why aren't people talking enough of him being NHL ready? From what I've read I get the idea that he's solid and stuff.

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What does he need to improve? Why aren't people talking enough of him being NHL ready? From what I've read I get the idea that he's solid and stuff.
he's nhl ready already in that he could come in and grind no problem. the question, i think, is whether he can score like he did in the Q against men and if time in the AHL would help him with that or if he could develop that part in the NHL just as well. IMO he's a sure thing third liner already.

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05-20-2012, 10:09 AM
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Physically he's ready, the only question is would he be able to adapt to the speed of the NHL right away or would he need time to develop. If he's not a top six guy in the NHL, he's not going to be getting enough minutes and quality linemates. Better to play with Phillips in the AHL top line than on the 3rd/4th line three shifts per period in the NHL.

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05-20-2012, 10:56 AM
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Ok, thanks for sharing some knowledge. I really want to see him wearing a Wild shirt next season.

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05-20-2012, 01:08 PM
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Hey, I like Charlie and Phillips alot, big Dogs fan here. My opinion and it certainly can change over the summer and towards next fall is that both need some time in the AHL.
Charlie is 2 years post draft, strong but needs to play against similiar sized men for a bit to fine tune his game IMO.
Phillips is 1 year past draft, needs to get away from the ice and to the gym. One of the pitfalls of Major Junior is length of season, with the Sea Dogs going deep 3 straight years, end of may, and training camp starting in mid August, unlike a US college player this kid has had no opportunity to bulk up compared to Charlie.

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What does he need to improve? Why aren't people talking enough of him being NHL ready? From what I've read I get the idea that he's solid and stuff.
Keep in mind he was not scoring in the NCAA's like he is now... In Juniors he's a man amongst boys. Not really a test of his ability. Playing against older players may well end up being culture shock for him now. I think the AHL will be a nice way to ease him into better competition without destroying his confidence.

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Sorry to necrobump this, but Coyle needs his own thread so we can discuss his awesomeness. What a freakin' beast!! It seems every game he gets better and better. I may have been underrating his ability when I said his ceiling is David Backes...I'm thinking his ceiling is much higher than Backes.

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04-17-2013, 12:06 AM
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Wayne Simmonds is one of my absolute favorite hockey players and I am starting to see some Wayne Simmonds in Charlie Coyle. The more comfortable he gets throwing his weight around the better he will continue to get.


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04-17-2013, 12:11 AM
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That Burns-trade was a clear Win-Win. We just might have won a bit more.

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That Burns-trade was a clear Win-Win. We just might have won a bit more.
We robbed the Sharks if you ask me.

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04-17-2013, 12:57 AM
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We robbed the Sharks if you ask me.
I agree, good to see Burnsy doing so well though. He had another goal and assist tonight with 7 SOG and 3 hits.

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We robbed the Sharks if you ask me.
Burns has not played on the same level he played at when he was here. The Wild more than robbed San Jose with that trade.

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Still no way to tell who won that trade. Coyle and Phillips' continuing development (or in Phillips' case lack of) will decide it. Right now we essentially traded a top line RW () for two top 6 RWs and a prospect.

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Burns has not played on the same level he played at when he was here.
I don't think Sharks fans would agree with you there. He's been great lately, albeit at a different position.

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I don't think Sharks fans would agree with you there. He's been great lately, albeit at a different position.
They traded for Burns to strengthen the blue line and get them into the Cup Finals. They failed last year, and this year doesn't look any better. The Sharks window to get in the finals is dead, and their best prospect is with us now.

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They traded for Burns to strengthen the blue line and get them into the Cup Finals. They failed last year, and this year doesn't look any better. The Sharks window to get in the finals is dead, and their best prospect is with us now.
I already said I think we clearly won that trade, I just don't think it's fair to say that Burns isn't playing at a high level.

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04-17-2013, 01:39 AM
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Very happy with Coyle. He uses his size very well and continues to get better every game

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The way the Sharks are playing lately I would say their window is still just barely open. But I really think it's this year or never for them.

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The funny thing is just a few weeks ago many here were calling for Coyle to be sent down, instead of Zucker when he got sent. Funny how quickly some people forget, and/or change their tunes.

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The funny thing is just a few weeks ago many here were calling for Coyle to be sent down, instead of Zucker when he got sent. Funny how quickly some people forget, and/or change their tunes.
Well, in the last 3/4 weeks Coyle took a big step in his development. When the circumstances change, opinions change.

Early on, he was a passenger on that first line. Occasionally using his body for some good board play. But mostly just hanging on. In the past couple weeks, he has upped his game considerably. He has been everywhere, playing solid in all three zones, constantly dominating board battles with his body and forechecking like a machine.

The criticism he got at the time was warranted, as is the praise he is receiving now.

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Well, in the last 3/4 weeks Coyle took a big step in his development. When the circumstances change, opinions change.

Early on, he was a passenger on that first line. Occasionally using his body for some good board play. But mostly just hanging on. In the past couple weeks, he has upped his game considerably. He has been everywhere, playing solid in all three zones, constantly dominating board battles with his body and forechecking like a machine.

The criticism he got at the time was warranted, as is the praise he is receiving now.
I disagree. He was a rookie just a few games into his 1st NHL season with no training camp. For anyone to expect him to step into the line-up and immediately begin playing like he is right now is ludicrous. He just needed a little time to catch up to the speed of the NHL and create some confidence.

As Walz said last night, just wait till this kid puts on another 10-20 lbs of muscle on his frame. He is exactly the type of player we need to compete with teams like the Blues, Kings and Ducks now and into the future.

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