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05-19-2012, 01:57 PM
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The positive thing is that we get to play in the weakest pool of the three pools for Sochi 2014. Finland is the only real test, which should have Rinne. We should have an easy first place finish. Should versus reality are two different things. We should have beaten Slovakia, but that did not turn out well. Hopefully Hockey Canada can get its act together after an early exit. The pools are confirmed below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc...inter_Olympics
Finland is the only chance at a loss in the prelim round. The downside is going into the QF relatively untested with only one tough game.

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The positive thing is that we get to play in the weakest pool of the three pools for Sochi 2014. Finland is the only real test, which should have Rinne. We should have an easy first place finish. Should versus reality are two different things. We should have beaten Slovakia, but that did not turn out well. Hopefully Hockey Canada can get its act together after an early exit. The pools are confirmed below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hoc...inter_Olympics
Well, anyone who watches these WHC tournaments know that especially in single game even an euro team can beat a team full of NHL players/stars by actually playing better hockey. In Sochi Finland will have its A team, which can't be very easily beaten even in theory.

Anyway, Canada should easily get the bye to quarter-finals at least as best team on 2nd place. Same applies to Finland: even though Canada likely wins the group, Finland should be able to quite easily secure their place as best "runner-up" and get the bye. So yes, it seems to be the easiest group for those top teams.

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Does this mean Finland can't face Canada at the quaterfinals?

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05-19-2012, 05:23 PM
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Does this mean Finland can't face Canada at the quaterfinals?
They still can, the teams are put in one pool after the preliminary round.

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Russia + Slovakia + USA = Group of Death!

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Russia + Slovakia + USA = Group of Death!
doesn't really matter though since all teams are going into the playoff stage. these are just warmup games.

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doesn't really matter though since all teams are going into the playoff stage. these are just warmup games.
There's some confusion over that from the IIHF

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Yes. Slovakia is really screwed in that group. USA is always tough in the Olympics and so is Russia of course.

How many advance from the starting groups?

I'm glad about Canada in Finland's group. At least we get a good reality check early on in the tournament and the best time to face Canada is early as their chemistry might not work perfectly yet.

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One thing that I do not understand is why are the Olympics that are two years away, based on this tournament? Why is next year's WHC not factored in? Strange sets of rules when Sochi 2014 is based on WHC of 2012 and not 2013.

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One thing that I do not understand is why are the Olympics that are two years away, based on this tournament? Why is next year's WHC not factored in? Strange sets of rules when Sochi 2014 is based on WHC of 2012 and not 2013.
it's not based only on this WHC, but on the ranking that includes the last Olympics + 2009-2012 WHC's. 2013 is not relevant probably because the qualifications for the spots 10-12 already start in the next season.

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it's not based only on this WHC, but on the ranking that includes the last Olympics + 2009-2012 WHC's. 2013 is not relevant probably because the qualifications for the spots 10-12 already start in the next season.
Thanks for that information. I appreciate it.

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There's some confusion over that from the IIHF
So there is a chance that it might be just the top two teams and not top three?

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Yes. Slovakia is really screwed in that group. USA is always tough in the Olympics and so is Russia of course.

How many advance from the starting groups?

I'm glad about Canada in Finland's group. At least we get a good reality check early on in the tournament and the best time to face Canada is early as their chemistry might not work perfectly yet.
I don't know, the Slovaks seem to be giant killers at the WHC this year.

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So there is a chance that it might be just the top two teams and not top three?
The confusion is over if there will be the elimination round of teams ranked 5-12 or if they go straight to the QF with the top 8

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I don't know, the Slovaks seem to be giant killers at the WHC this year.
A year ago they had a better roster on paper and were almost relegated.

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Well, Slovakia is...

They are always a darkhorse....

A is the strongest.

B is the weakest.

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Reports said that a 5th place spot for Canada would potentially give us a hard group. I'm for once happy that a qf exit and 5th place spot = an easy group.

You can bet if NHL'ers go, Canada will be 100% ready by the first game. Chemistry will be set by Game 1.

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Reports said that a 5th place spot for Canada would potentially give us a hard group. I'm for once happy that a qf exit and 5th place spot = an easy group.

You can bet if NHL'ers go, Canada will be 100% ready by the first game. Chemistry will be set by Game 1.
Canada was first place and lost to Slovakia in this tournament. First place does not mean anything if you come out and sleepwalk in the first period, and play scared and not to lose in the third period. In a one game showdown, anything can happen, since this is not a 7 game series. Canada should have been in the final today, but Slovakia deserved it, and wanted it more.

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Canada was first place and lost to Slovakia in this tournament. First place does not mean anything if you come out and sleepwalk in the first period, and play scared and not to lose in the third period. In a one game showdown, anything can happen, since this is not a 7 game series. Canada should have been in the final today, but Slovakia deserved it, and wanted it more.
What are you talking about and how does what you said have anything to do with seeding and group ease? You mention first place, you mention playing a full 60 minutes of hockey. Explain yourself better please. I'm confused by what you just said. I sort of see what you're trying to say, but I think I'm talking about something different entirely.

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