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05-21-2012, 02:34 AM
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of the taxi squad players, are any of them good enough to be considered "faceoff specialists?"


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05-21-2012, 02:59 AM
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of the taxi squad players, are any of them good enough to be considered "faceoff specialists?"
none have played enough nhl for me to think it possible.

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05-21-2012, 03:22 AM
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Zuke's been out 8 weeks, so he should be pretty hungy and he's playing for a better contract next season...

So he's the go to guy for this game...

I can just see it now...

Zuke passes to a speeding Hags or Kreider on the rush....1 shot....1 goal..

And with the way he was playing before the injury he's more than good enough to play...

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05-21-2012, 04:55 AM
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Zuke's been out 8 weeks, so he should be pretty hungy and he's playing for a better contract next season...

So he's the go to guy for this game...

I can just see it now...

Zuke passes to a speeding Hags or Kreider on the rush....1 shot....1 goal..

And with the way he was playing before the injury he's more than good enough to play...
He was doing so great in his NHL comeback befofe his injury that I know I'm not the only one who was floored by his performance, but he's been out a long time now. If Torts is going to use him, expect very very little ice time to start. Actually scratch that; I foresee none.

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05-21-2012, 05:02 AM
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Dubi if healthy of course but we've heard nothing new. Would rather see Wellman over Bickel.

Zucc = shootouts only, has never impressed me much beyond that and I still dont understand all of the love/hype he gets from some fans. We all know there no shootouts in the playoffs so he's my last choice on the current roster.

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05-21-2012, 05:14 AM
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From a type of injury point of view, Zucc ought to be able to go in case of emergency alot earlier than Dubinsky. Chris Drury basically played through the same type of injury Zucc have, without being able to shoot the puck.

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05-21-2012, 05:20 AM
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Bickel.

The guy's heart is with this team. Most of his gaffes were because he isn't confident with the puck on his stick in the D zone. He'll spin it around the boards to opposing players because it is the simple thing to do.

Which is why i'm more confident with him forechecking, or maybe even parking his huge ass in front of Brodeur as a screen as a forward. Give him 4 min. on the 4th line, i say.
Nah, that's a no-go in my opinion. Its G4 of the ECF's. We need a 4th line. Torts wouldn't use a line of like Bickel-Mitchell-Rupp more than 3-4 minutes. What if we go to 1-3OT?

Nah, in that case I much much much rather go with Newbury. Like a line with Mitchell-Newbury-Rupp could be decent defensively and have a couple of good shifts.

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05-21-2012, 05:26 AM
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Oh God, please be Dubi. The other options are scary.

Dubinsky is the only one of those options who can play Prust's minutes effectively.

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05-21-2012, 05:27 AM
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As much as it pains me to see Bickel back in, we need someone that knows the system and won't be a defensive liability. There's the irony for you. beyond just the defensive liability, it's also a work ethic thing and recently Torts hasn't been taking kindly to poor individual defensive play. At least with stu playing as a 4 minute forward, we'll still have 2 D back He might even score his first... never mind.

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05-21-2012, 05:31 AM
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Please let it be Zuke.

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05-21-2012, 05:44 AM
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Go through some tweets, this was posted 8 hours ago by Zipay:

@stevezipay: As discussed earlier, Prust replacement candidates : Dubinsky, if cleared to play or Bickel/Eminger combo. Game-day decision.

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05-21-2012, 06:36 AM
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take out Mitchell and put Miller and one of Dubi Wellman or Zucc..no way i wanna see Bickel in the lineup at forward unless the Devils goon it up with Jansenns or Boulton

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05-21-2012, 07:20 AM
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There is such a thing as game condition. Bickel has it. Dubi hasn't been out long enough that he's completely lost it.

There is another thing such as Torts familiarity with a player. Again Bickel and Dubi are the best candidates--Zuccarello would come in third and Wellman not at all. Torts is reluctant to play players he doesn't know or doesn't know very well--even in the regular season--let alone the playoffs.

There's another thing called--not much ice time or less than 4th line minutes--this will probably happen to every possible candidate to replace Prust--not named Dubinsky and if Brandon isn't close to 100% it may happen to him too.

As for Brandon's injury--I don't think any of us are all that sure what it is or what the time line for him coming back was. We know it's to do with the right foot area--could be a stress fracture, could be a high ankle sprain etc.--there's the degree of severity. We have a better idea of Zuccarello. So as to who might be closer to 100%--there's really no way of knowing.

Last comment on JT Miller. He is 18? Are we willing to burn one year of his ELC to play him in one game?--more or less throwing in the deep end of the pool. If the Rangers are--that tells you they already have a tremendous amount of faith in him. Personally I don't see it happening but his strengths--size and strength along the boards, playmaking etc. are more or less what the Rangers would look to replace Prust with. The thing is though if he's only going to get a handful of minutes is it worth it?

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05-21-2012, 08:02 AM
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Zuccarello isnt even being listed as an option, and with good reason. The only way Zuccarello should even be considered is if the powerplay is in complete shambles, which it hasnt been in this series.

He would get eaten alive at even strength in an NHL conference final. Too slow and too weak.

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05-21-2012, 08:11 AM
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I assume Bickel. Boyle and Bickel will split the ice time, 50/50.

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Not trying to pick a fight here Sir - and yes I'm a Norwegian..lol

But did you see all of his games before the injury? Too slow and weak? No Sir..not at all

When he played he was among the teams top 4 players every game. If he was to small and weak, how come 2 of his goals came from standing in front of the goal?

You know, the place several players on todays team avoids any chance they get. Zuke did all right there, so why would he change his style now?

I don't expect him to play tonight, I love it if he did but Torts will go with a 97% injuryfree dubi instead..

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05-21-2012, 08:23 AM
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you cannot be serious, Bickle provides power & strength. and can hit...

Torts will not put a guy who just came off injury in the lineup. new kids is not a smart idea bad spot for them, bickle is the choice to stick right in front of the net and annoy FATSO! so he cant stop the puck.. But I have been wrong before..


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There is such a thing as game condition. Bickel has it. Dubi hasn't been out long enough that he's completely lost it.
You could also look at it as an opportunity to get Dubi in for a few shifts on the 4th line as he works on his game conditioning. I'd only expect Bickel to get 4-5 minutes anyway.

Really, it needs to be Fedotenko that "replaces" Prust, particularly if they end up having to kill a bunch of penalties. None of the options on the bench can be asked to step in and cover Prusts 15 minutes.

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You could also look at it as an opportunity to get Dubi in for a few shifts on the 4th line as he works on his game conditioning. I'd only expect Bickel to get 4-5 minutes anyway.

Really, it needs to be Fedotenko that "replaces" Prust, particularly if they end up having to kill a bunch of penalties. None of the options on the bench can be asked to step in and cover Prusts 15 minutes.
true Feds should get more minutes and it likely will be AA, Boyle, Feds

Rupp did see more time in the last game so wont shock me to see him around again. Bottom line is whoever jumps in does not play much which is why I say put in Zuke and use him just on the PP and sparingly on the 4th line.........the guy has offensive talent and the team needs to score more goals. Just try it Torts

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05-21-2012, 09:09 AM
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I am still holding out hope Wellman gets a shot. That 4th line needs some offensive punch. Put him on the wing and he won't have a ton of defensive responsibilities.

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Dubi if healthy of course but we've heard nothing new. Would rather see Wellman over Bickel.

Zucc = shootouts only, has never impressed me much beyond that and I still dont understand all of the love/hype he gets from some fans. We all know there no shootouts in the playoffs so he's my last choice on the current roster.
Maybe you'd understand it more if you had actually watched him play any of the games during his last call-up, since he was beyond impressive. Unless of course, you think that just about every fan that was watching, every player and coach, every broadcaster and every reporter was wrong...

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05-21-2012, 09:31 AM
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There is another thing such as Torts familiarity with a player. Again Bickel and Dubi are the best candidates--Zuccarello would come in third and Wellman not at all. Torts is reluctant to play players he doesn't know or doesn't know very well--even in the regular season--let alone the playoffs.
Kreider says hello.

Not disagreeing about Wellman, but he knows the type of player Zucc is and he knows the type of progress Zucc has made since last season. He was commending him before the injury.

Given the way Torts shelters Bickel, I'd have to think if Dubinsky can't go and Zuccarello is close enough to 100%, he would go with Zucc. With Zucc, he can play him the same 3-4 minutes on a fourth line, but he can get Zucc 2-3 more mins on the PP, where he's at his best. It's also a unique skillet and a look that the devils have not seen. That alone is a small advantage.

With that said, I think in all likelihood, Dubinsky is going to play tonight. I think the decision has already been made and the only reason it hasn't been confirmed officially yet is because Torts doesn't want to give Deboer any advantage of dressing his lineup accordingly. Torts has outcoached Petey boy so far. Let's hope it continues.

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Y do people keep thinking that MZA is ready? Did I miss something?

Dubi has at least practiced, you know, WITH the team wearing a normal jersey (not the non-contact variety). MZA has not. He's not even an option at this point, though I'm not sure Dubi is either.

We'll find out in a few hrs, but it won't be MZA.

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Best thing Bickel could do is hurt someone on the Devils and take a suspension. I can't see him doing much else at forward.

IMO, I give Newbury a shot on the 4th line. He out played Drury last year, not if that's saying much, but he seems to have gotten better in the AHL this season.I say throw him in OR...

Sign Hrivik to a SPC and give him some PP time. Heaven knows the PP could use someone who can bury the puck.

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Zuccarello hasn't played for months. He's not in game shape, at least not to the point that he's going to be dropped into the middle of a brutal ECF. It's not going to be him.

JT Miller? Are you guys freaking kidding me?

It's Dubinsky if he's ready, or Bickel. No question.

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