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05-21-2012, 05:52 PM
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I would love to hear those twelve names and then some.
I think from the swiss league there are three more or less comparable players Berra, (the only reason biel was in the playoffs)
Genoni (on the smaller side but very strong positioning and reflexes)
and Stephan (big strong goalie)
all of them might be better choices (age) than fast, but all of them are risky. You can't say they are better.
Maybe there are 1 or 2 better from KHL/ Sweden, but i doubt there are that many

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I think from the swiss league there are three more or less comparable players Berra, (the only reason biel was in the playoffs)
Genoni (on the smaller side but very strong positioning and reflexes)
and Stephan (big strong goalie)
all of them might be better choices (age) than fast, but all of them are risky. You can't say they are better.
Maybe there are 1 or 2 better from KHL/ Sweden, but i doubt there are that many
Not seen those Swiss guys, but i could imagine that they are better, it dont take that much.

Here is only some guys i've seen playing. Arguably all better than fasth.
From KHL: Barulin, Ahonen, Rämö, Stepanek, Vehanen, Biryukov.
From SM-Liiga: Hovinen, Helenius even Endras. + Some young guys are better soon enough.
Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.

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How did Bobkov look in Syracuse? Did he see any games?

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Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.
So, there's no less than four goalies in the SEL plus some young guys that are better than Fasth, who completely robbed all those guys by winning the award for the best goaltender in that league (a 2nd straight time). That seems entirely reasonable and objective.

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I don't really understand the people bashing this move when it's a relatively low risk/high reward move. Even if he fails, he's only signed for 1 year.
This. Its not like Fasth is a terrible goalie. He's had fantastic numbers in SEL and was great in last years WHC aswell (before the final at least). Yes he was shaky in this years tournament, but thats just one tourny.

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05-21-2012, 06:29 PM
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Ducks fans, Please igonre the "regret" posts from my fellow Swedes.
They seem to forget that he's been the SEL's best goalie the last two seasons and quite possibly the SEL's best player.

Sure he didn't play up to his normal standard in the WHC, but he was bound to have a few bad games after 100+ great games.

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05-21-2012, 06:31 PM
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So, there's no less than four goalies in the SEL plus some young guys that are better than Fasth, who completely robbed all those guys by winning the award for the best goaltender in that league (a 2nd straight time). That seems entirely reasonable and objective.
You wanted dozen and then some names and i gave you 13.

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Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.

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You wanted dozen and then some names and i gave you 13.
Well, let's just say that I got exactly what I thought I would be getting, and that that's enough to tell me all I feel I need to know.

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good for them... well, I guess... well, maybe not so good. we'll have to wait. but according to my personal opinion Fasth pretty much sucks.

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Not seen those Swiss guys, but i could imagine that they are better, it dont take that much.

Here is only some guys i've seen playing. Arguably all better than fasth.
From KHL: Barulin, Ahonen, Rämö, Stepanek, Vehanen, Biryukov.
From SM-Liiga: Hovinen, Helenius even Endras. + Some young guys are better soon enough.
Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.
I can only talk about the goaltenders from Sweden/that have played in Sweden and neither of those you are listed are better than Fasth, Andersen might be but rumors are that he has signed with Carolina already.

Gustafsson is for sure not as good as Fasth, he might be better in a few years though but he is already drafted by Minnesota.

Larsson? I'll add a few more to show how little sense it makes to put Larsson ahead of Fasth:

Norrena might have been better than Fasth 5 years ago. Now? It's not even close even though I like Norrena a lot.

Helenius was terrible when he played in SEL, Fasth is a lot better than anything that Helenius showed us.

Ahonen is good but I'd say that Fasth is better.

Would also be interesting to know who these "young guys" in SEL are that are clearly better than Fasth is at the moment.

Fasth is one of Europes best goaltenders, he is the best one in SEL together with Andersen so I don't see why people complain so much. I think he is a better goaltender than Jonas Gustavsson was when he went to Toronto and I think Fasth will do better than Gustavsson did aswell.

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It's a better fit than Gus because they have a starter.

By far the most consistent goalie in the SEL the last two years. Lundqvisting AIK to the semifinals twice.

$1M will be a decent salary upgrade for him too..

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How did Bobkov look in Syracuse? Did he see any games?
A few. I remember Crunch fans saying he looked good.

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I think from the swiss league there are three more or less comparable players Berra, (the only reason biel was in the playoffs)
Genoni (on the smaller side but very strong positioning and reflexes)
and Stephan (big strong goalie)
all of them might be better choices (age) than fast, but all of them are risky. You can't say they are better.
Maybe there are 1 or 2 better from KHL/ Sweden, but i doubt there are that many
I thought Genoni would be a good idea as well. Same club as Hiller. Relatively similar stats, but the thing is these guys have to WANT to come to the NHL. You don't just throw money at them and expect them to make a move.

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Fasth needs alot of work if he's ever going to become a NHL goaltender. He's a pure butterfly, always drops to his knees on every shot, so he's very susceptible to high shots. He's not that tight down low either, pucks seem to find their way into the net if he's pressured. His positioning is average, rebound control average.

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How the hell is this a move the ducks will regret?

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How the hell is this a move the ducks will regret?
It isn't, but there are a bunch of people that are bitter about Sweden's exit from the WCs, and this is their way of venting - a few are even whining about it on our team board.

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Good luck to Fasth on his North American endeavors.

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Not seen those Swiss guys, but i could imagine that they are better, it dont take that much.

Here is only some guys i've seen playing. Arguably all better than fasth.
From KHL: Barulin, Ahonen, Rämö, Stepanek, Vehanen, Biryukov.
From SM-Liiga: Hovinen, Helenius even Endras. + Some young guys are better soon enough.
Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.
Just wanted to tell everybody that This guy has never watched a single game of hockey in his life. Even the fans(those who i know personely) of those other swedish goalies team (norrena,LHC and larsson,hv) agrees that Fasth has been without a doubt the best goalie in SEL.

Very good signin' for my ducks.

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Oh I see, People are scapegoating Fasth for Swedens WHC performance.
He's coming in to be a BACKUP, jesus christ!

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I´ve watched Fasth play for about two years now. Over the last two years he´s been SEL best goalie. 2honken(vezina). solid signing. The End.

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Not seen those Swiss guys, but i could imagine that they are better, it dont take that much.

Here is only some guys i've seen playing. Arguably all better than fasth.
From KHL: Barulin, Ahonen, Rämö, Stepanek, Vehanen, Biryukov.
From SM-Liiga: Hovinen, Helenius even Endras. + Some young guys are better soon enough.
Elitserien: Andersen, Gustafsson, Larsson, even Norrena + Young guys.
I would like to know what you're basing this judgement on. In the SEL, Nihlstorp, Eriksson and Gerber all ahead of those, maybe Tellqvist and Svedberg (great final series, but small sample size) too. Heck, Gustafsson is splitting time between the posts with David Rautio, I guess he's better than Fasth too.

It's weird that Fasth gets the goalie of the year award in the SEL twice and makes team Sweden (as their starter) two WC tournaments in row. I mean, since there's at least six Swedish goaltenders (and let's not forget about the young guys) in the SEL that are better.

Barely any goalie on that list is CLEARLY better than Fasth... Neither of those are NHL starting caliber. All of them are NHL backups at best, which is exactly what the Ducks are counting on Fasth to be.


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I don't get most of this here. Fasth is a very good goalie and progressed every year over the last 5y. Solna is a low level team AFAIK and he carried this team. All the other goalies played for stronger corps.

I think Fasth will be a strong and relieable backup for the Ducks. Maybe - and thats a huge maybe - he can push for the #1. The fine thing, the Ducks have two great prospects in the pipeline. They need to overcome 2-4 years from now and with Fasth they have add a major piece.

I'm thrilled and I think we will have a lot of fun watching him.

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I don't really understand the people bashing this move when it's a relatively low risk/high reward move. Even if he fails, he's only signed for 1 year.
exactly, this is almost a no risk situation for the Ducks

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