Shawn Antoski was faster than Bure in the Canucks skill's competition years ago. I believe it was for blue line to blue line and not around the rink, but makes you wonder. I believe Bure won for fastest lap.
I would have loved to have seen Paul Kariya in the fastest skater competitions. He's so quick off the start but who knows how he is over the long haul.
Bure is Russian, and its like the playoffs: he wasn't being payed to skate from end to end.
Seriously though, pre-injury Bure was the fastest player with the puck to ever strap on a apair of skates. I dunno who said he skated ugly, but just going back to watch some of the videos where he blows by multiple opponents is amazing. The sheer velocity at which he seems to be moving down the ice is breathtaking, not to mention a fancy move that usually ensues while maintaining that velocity.
I was going to make this same point, and I think in the end acceleration is what's most impressive. So what if Donald Brashear could skate a lap faster? Acceleration is what gets you to loose pucks first and helps you to take advantage of holes.
Bure could get to his top speed faster than anyone else could (a very respectable top speed of course) and its those first three steps that are the most amazing.
Thats a good point, your first 3 strides are the most important ones IE Gaborik pulls it off very well.
I have to give a nod to Neidermayer hes by far the most steady skater with a graceful stride you dont even really notice hes flying out there because hes barely moving his legs while skating. Where as most skaters take many strides in quick sucesssion to match Neidermayers style.
I used to think he was the fastest in the league in the mid 90s until I saw one play. Bure is fresh onto the ice and the puck is chipped to him just inside the redline and he takes off. Scott Neidermayer is at the end of a shift is about 6 feet behind Bure, puts his head down and catches him just on top of the circles, ties him up and he never even got a shot off.
Bure was quick, Niedermayer is fast.
No offense but sounds like Bure was carrying the puck, not skating with his head down trying to catch someone.
I think there were lots of skaters faster than Bure in terms of outright speed. But Bure had that special gift where the puck didn't slow him down. I don't know if anyone has ever skated with the puck faster than Bure.
Many will tell you that Bobby Orr was the fastest skater ever. That's the name that springs to my mind first. Yvon Cournoyer is another name that's mentioned as far as the fastest skaters of all-time. He didn't get the "road runner" nickname for nothing.
I remember back in the day reading about Geoff Sanderson being the player with the fastest speed-shot combo, as in he could be at full speed and still let off a quick and accurate shot. Mind you, this was when he was loving Cassels passes and a scoring threat, he's not much of anything right now, but at one point he was.
Guys that i have seen that are fast are Konstantin Koltsov in Pittsburgh, Balej in Vancouver, and of course Pavel Bure. I remember Russ Courtnall could fly out there also. There are plenty of guys with great wheels, those stupid speed competitions and skills are lame, during action, thats when the speed counts.
The last time this question was asked I responded with my opinion and it got completely ignored. I'll do it again however, expecting the same results
You should not be ignored. Morenz may very well have been the fastest of all time (my vote went to Hull & my comments were also ignored). People forget that the subject is "fastest skater of all time" not "fastest skater that I have seen"
Honorable mention to Al Iafrate, especially considering his size.
I remember reading something about Iafrate before all his knee problems that said that his NHL team wanted him to quit smoking because it was going to hurt his game.
His answer was "As soon as you can find someone who can keep up with me, I'll quit".
Jeff Lazaro, in his brief NHL career, could really fly.
He holds the ECHL Skills Comp record of 13.395 seconds.
Okay, but how can you expect a person to vote for someone they've never seen? I started watching hockey in the 1970s, how can I judge Morenz? I also saw your post on Hull and I also remember seeing him in the Guiness Book on that. However, I also remember seeing him with a recorded slap shot at 127 miles per hour, and then and there had to question the accuracy of the radar gun they used. Especially when you see the top players today with slappers 25-40 MPH slower than that.
Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, just explaining why I opted to not respond to your initial post. I couldn't see any sense in discrediting Hull in any way. Plus, I never watched the guy live and therefore can't put a legit two cents in on the matter.
Been thinking about this. This site is called "the history of hockey" not the ""history of recent hockey" and I am as guilty as the next person, favoring the players that I have seen (I have been watching since the 50's so have seen more than most). However, That is not right. If you are going to give an opinion on who is the fastest slater of "all Time" your opinion is meaningless unless you have researched the players you have never seen, There are a few posters on this site who do this but not many.