HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Buffalo Sabres
Notices

Off-Season Game Plan: Buffalo Sabres

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-22-2012, 01:29 PM
  #1
Evgeni Giroux
Registered User
 
Evgeni Giroux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 2,762
vCash: 500
Off-Season Game Plan: Buffalo Sabres

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=396554

Evgeni Giroux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-22-2012, 01:42 PM
  #2
New Sabres Captain
ForFriendshipDikembe
 
New Sabres Captain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Country: United States
Posts: 37,915
vCash: 500
Cullen's only move was re-signing Ennis/Kaleta and adding Jay McClement.

Vanek-Roy-Pominville
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Leino-Hodgson-Gerbe
McCormick-McClement-Kaleta
Ellis, Tropp

Myers-Regehr
Ehrhoff-Leopold
Sekera-Sulzer
Weber

Miller
Enroth

(His pairings are all wrong, but that's an easy matter to fix).

New Sabres Captain is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-22-2012, 02:22 PM
  #3
WhoIsJimBob
Circle the Bandwagon
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 15,532
vCash: 500
Quote:
Needs: First line centre, checking centre, top-four defenceman.

What I said the Sabres needed last year: Depth forwards, one top four defenceman, another defenceman.

They added: Ville Leino, Luke Adam, Christian Ehrhoff, Robyn Regehr, Marc-Andre Gragnani.
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.


WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-22-2012, 02:46 PM
  #4
Jame
Dream '16
 
Jame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Palm Harbor, FL
Country: Pitcairn Islands
Posts: 33,191
vCash: 500
Id love to sign McClement... but if more major changes aren't made to how soft the forward core is especially among the skill players... then I see nothing other then a 1st round exit at best.

Jame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 03:22 AM
  #5
Hank Moody
Easy, but not sleazy
 
Hank Moody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas
Country: United States
Posts: 1,791
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

Ehrhoff AND Regehr. If they sign another top 4 D (Suter ), it will be awfully hard for all those D prospects to make the jump to the NHL, because none of them would out-seat Myers, Ehrhoff, Leo, Regehr, Sekera, or Sulzer. If Buffalo signs another top 4 D, a trade almost HAS to be made, shipping out one of their D prospects.

Hank Moody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 05:42 AM
  #6
BackGroundMusic
rebuildingeverywhere
 
BackGroundMusic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Country: Germany
Posts: 24,452
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

Yeah, kind of a disappointing article.

BackGroundMusic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 09:33 AM
  #7
Myllz
Pavelski Lite
 
Myllz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle
Country: United States
Posts: 12,932
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

He didn't specify how many they needed last year, just said we need top 4 defenseman. Now he's saying we still need one more.

Myllz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 09:50 AM
  #8
Sabresfansince1980
Registered User
 
Sabresfansince1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: from Wheatfield, NY
Country: Germany
Posts: 2,599
vCash: 500
I don't think Regehr panned out as a top four d-man. He's looking like a slightly better version of Rivet, without also badly injuring his shoulder right after becoming a Sabre.

Besides needing a center (or two), I'm also not real avid about the RW position either. Pominville is good, Stafford is the definition of inconsistent, and then it's Tropp and Kaleta (who can't play a full season anyway). Vanek, Foligno, Leino, and Gerbe could be alright at LW, but RW isn't very strong anymore (not that really ever was).

Sabresfansince1980 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 09:50 AM
  #9
WhoIsJimBob
Circle the Bandwagon
 
WhoIsJimBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 15,532
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myllz View Post
He didn't specify how many they needed last year, just said we need top 4 defenseman. Now he's saying we still need one more.
Quote:
What I said the Sabres needed last year: Depth forwards, one top four defenceman, another defenceman.
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......

WhoIsJimBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 10:10 AM
  #10
Myllz
Pavelski Lite
 
Myllz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Seattle
Country: United States
Posts: 12,932
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......
Oops, read it wrong. I thought the second line was what he was saying they need now.

Myllz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 01:09 PM
  #11
Sabretip
Registered User
 
Sabretip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Country: United States
Posts: 7,906
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords View Post
Cullen's only move was re-signing Ennis/Kaleta and adding Jay McClement.

Vanek-Roy-Pominville
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Leino-Hodgson-Gerbe
McCormick-McClement-Kaleta
Ellis, Tropp

Myers-Regehr
Ehrhoff-Leopold
Sekera-Sulzer
Weber

Miller
Enroth
He apparently thinks either that the roster is fine as is as long as it stays healthy or that the Sabres will stand pat and won't make any required changes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by iciclesonapapershelf View Post
Yeah, kind of a disappointing article.
I can't think of too many pieces (including those weekly power rankings) written by Cullen that weren't.

Sabretip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 05:14 PM
  #12
heartsabres*
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Budapest
Country: Hungary
Posts: 1,790
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bob View Post
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......
So what your saying is, he has come to the conclusion that The Buffalo Sabres missed the playoffs and now can use another top 4 defenceman is wrong?

So what your saying is this team didn't make the play-offs this year and we dont need a top four defenceman?

To be honest I dont even know what your complaint is. I agree we could use another top 4 defenceman

heartsabres* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 06:23 PM
  #13
Dubi Doo
Registered User
 
Dubi Doo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 6,327
vCash: 2225
Quote:
Originally Posted by heartsabres View Post
So what your saying is, he has come to the conclusion that The Buffalo Sabres missed the playoffs and now can use another top 4 defenceman is wrong?

So what your saying is this team didn't make the play-offs this year and we dont need a top four defenceman?

To be honest I dont even know what your complaint is. I agree we could use another top 4 defenceman
The sabres 'D' was dominant when healthy. It's no coincidence that Miller played lights out when the defense was healthy. The defense is the least of my concerns. Our top 6 on the other hand...

Dubi Doo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 06:31 PM
  #14
Play4Miracles*
1 nation under Oil
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 5,241
vCash: 500
I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?

Play4Miracles* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 06:40 PM
  #15
Dubi Doo
Registered User
 
Dubi Doo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rochester, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 6,327
vCash: 2225
Quote:
Originally Posted by Play4Miracles View Post
I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?
Sounds like gaustad 2.0

Dubi Doo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 06:48 PM
  #16
littletonhockeycoach
Registered User
 
littletonhockeycoach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Littleton, Co
Country: United States
Posts: 2,201
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Play4Miracles View Post
I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?
I've watched him regularly via his play with the Avalanche. I see him as a plug and play 3rd line utility Center. Yes to the PK which was pretty good for the Avs this season but Landeskog has something to do with that.

Jay is pretty much as you describe with very little in the way of hands and finishing skills to his game. Gaustad w/o the size or the fight in him. He does play a physical fore checking game but is usually late to the play as a F1 forward. Could be a lack of speed or could be the system Sacco plays here.

He's never excited me much but a lot of people on this board seem to like him. It's probably not comparable (he may not be even available since I'm too lazy to look up the data) but I'd rather have Hanzal.

littletonhockeycoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 06:49 PM
  #17
struckbyaparkedcar
Zemgus Da Gawd
 
struckbyaparkedcar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Upstate NY
Country: Cote DIvoire
Posts: 10,446
vCash: 500
McClement is much better defensively (he was St Louis' checking center before Backes blew up), but is worse at the dot and doesn't have the physical facets to the game Goose has.

I think I'd rather have Greg Campbell or Jim Slater because of their respective physical games, but I like McClement as well.

struckbyaparkedcar is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 08:56 PM
  #18
LGB24
Registered User
 
LGB24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,591
vCash: 500
Yeah Im hoping for Jim Slater over McClement was well if were to obtain a #3/4 C.

LGB24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 09:04 PM
  #19
Play4Miracles*
1 nation under Oil
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: United States
Posts: 5,241
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by littletonhockeycoach View Post
I've watched him regularly via his play with the Avalanche. I see him as a plug and play 3rd line utility Center. Yes to the PK which was pretty good for the Avs this season but Landeskog has something to do with that.

Jay is pretty much as you describe with very little in the way of hands and finishing skills to his game. Gaustad w/o the size or the fight in him. He does play a physical fore checking game but is usually late to the play as a F1 forward. Could be a lack of speed or could be the system Sacco plays here.

He's never excited me much but a lot of people on this board seem to like him. It's probably not comparable (he may not be even available since I'm too lazy to look up the data) but I'd rather have Hanzal.
Who's that? I never heard of him either.

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol

Play4Miracles* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 09:32 PM
  #20
Luceni
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Austria
Country: Austria
Posts: 3,653
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Play4Miracles View Post
Who's that? I never heard of him either.

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol
Have you never heard about that "Stall" guy? Should be pretty good too.....

Luceni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-23-2012, 11:39 PM
  #21
littletonhockeycoach
Registered User
 
littletonhockeycoach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Littleton, Co
Country: United States
Posts: 2,201
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Play4Miracles View Post
Who's that? I never heard of him either.

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol
Yeah, either you or Jame clued me into taking a closer look at him this past season... around the time Sabres played Phoenix - who I said at the time was a pretty good team. Anyways, he's impressed me since I started watching him and he's been a force during the playoff run. So thanks for the tip!

And yes, that "Stall" (Staal) guy is pretty good too but I don't think he's reachable and all the discussion about a 3rd line center (admittedly on the Pens) wanting 1st line minutes leaves me a little skeptical.

I guess this is the wrong thread for this discussion so the moderators can shoot me now.........

littletonhockeycoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-24-2012, 03:48 AM
  #22
heartsabres*
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Budapest
Country: Hungary
Posts: 1,790
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubi Doo View Post
The sabres 'D' was dominant when healthy. It's no coincidence that Miller played lights out when the defense was healthy. The defense is the least of my concerns. Our top 6 on the other hand...

Myers
Ehrhoff Sulzer
Sekera Regher
Weber, Leopold, McNabb

Your happy with that? That didnt even get us to the playoffs. Who is out number 2 with Myers?

heartsabres* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-24-2012, 06:35 AM
  #23
Blitz
With the #2 pick...
 
Blitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Constant Mediocrity
Country: Latvia
Posts: 1,114
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by heartsabres View Post
Myers
Ehrhoff Sulzer
Sekera Regher
Weber, Leopold, McNabb

Your happy with that? That didnt even get us to the playoffs. Who is out number 2 with Myers?
Keeping in mind everyone of those guys except Leopold missed significant time - and we didn't get Alex until the deadline... Injury time is the only way the d-men can be blamed for missing the playoffs - certainly not for the quality of players (exception Weber & Grags)

The only change I would make is to maybe deal Leopold for a pick(s) for the cap space - no other reason than $$$...

Myers-Sekera
Ehrhoff-Sulzer
Regehr-McNabb
X. Brennan, Weber, Finley, Pysyk, JGL

That is one of the better defense corps in the league hands down.

Blitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-24-2012, 07:12 AM
  #24
Silence Of The Plams
All these feels
 
Silence Of The Plams's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Lancaster, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 16,818
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitz View Post
Keeping in mind everyone of those guys except Leopold missed significant time - and we didn't get Alex until the deadline... Injury time is the only way the d-men can be blamed for missing the playoffs - certainly not for the quality of players (exception Weber & Grags)

The only change I would make is to maybe deal Leopold for a pick(s) for the cap space - no other reason than $$$...

Myers-Sekera
Ehrhoff-Sulzer
Regehr-McNabb
X. Brennan, Weber, Finley, Pysyk, JGL

That is one of the better defense corps in the league hands down.
I liked Myers Ehrhoff when that was going. They all were hurt superbly bad though. Was Sekera paired with myers ever? Individually it looked like this year sekera was the best dman. He wasnt injured as mich

Silence Of The Plams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-24-2012, 08:06 AM
  #25
Jame
Dream '16
 
Jame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Palm Harbor, FL
Country: Pitcairn Islands
Posts: 33,191
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatCrazyRangerFan View Post
I liked Myers Ehrhoff when that was going. They all were hurt superbly bad though. Was Sekera paired with myers ever? Individually it looked like this year sekera was the best dman. He wasnt injured as mich
he was... by a mile

Jame is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.