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05-24-2012, 03:12 AM
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Trade Gaborik, Sign Parise

Guy is too soft. Love his skill but he is not built for the playoffs especially with how he is playing. He has always been soft but it seems like another level here with NY.

With Parise you get a guy that can play along the boards and grind in Tort's system. He also isn't the player he used to be but he is better than Gaborik. He doesn't have Gabby's pure skill but he can at least perform in the playoffs.

Gaborik also has also has some trade value coming off a 41 goal season so the assets he returns might be substantial.

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Gaborik has been a good player for the Rangers. If he puts in a big goal Friday or Sunday like he did in game 3 versus the Caps maybe some will change their mind.

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He's scored some big goals for his man.

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Can we not trade you for a real fan?? Maybe we can do a package deal, get rid of all the w...... fans that come up with these threads after each loss and get some fans back with heart for the team we have.

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Ooooh. Good thing you started a new thread for this since it haven't been discussed at all in the "Buy out Gaborik-thread". Yeah trading third best goal scorer in the leauge sounds like a great idea. Are you some kind of undercover Penguin fan or what?

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12 posts. thats all im saying.

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Im gonna start out by saying i love gabby and in no way am I hating on him and i dont even understand why people do. he was my favorite player not on the rangers for a few years. I was thrilled we got him and think hes been great for us however, if we can get a younger forward with top 6 potential and use the money to sign parise I think thats the best thing the team could do.

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05-24-2012, 06:59 AM
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The problem with all this trading Gaborik speculation is that Gabs has a no trade clause.

So if your going to trade him, its certainly not going to be to a place like Columbus. If he is going to get traded its going to be to another contender.

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05-24-2012, 07:13 AM
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yes,lets trade the only true sniper we have when we need another 1.absolutely brilliant

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yes,lets trade the only true sniper we have when we need another 1.absolutely brilliant
To be fair, Gaborik is at his best on a transitional plays where he can get position on the opposing D. We don't play that system nor do we have Dman that can spring him with headman passes.

He doesn't play that well on the cycle, and there are guys who would probably play better with Richards.

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aahhhh trade everyone

we just played our most complete game of the playoffs and some of you people want to trade everyone its ridiculous. no one but hank (maybe dz and hags) had that bad of a game. calm down people look at most champions in history, they have a good run or 2 before winning the cup. we have to just keep it up doing what we are doing sather is building this team right and we dont need to throw all of that away on 8 million dollar nash or that 7+ million dollar empty net specialist that were playing against now. BELIEVE!

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To be fair, Gaborik is at his best on a transitional plays where he can get position on the opposing D. We don't play that system nor do we have Dman that can spring him with headman passes.

He doesn't play that well on the cycle, and there are guys who would probably play better with Richards.
doesnt matter,you dont trade your only bonafide goal scorer when its clear you need another 1.thats like trading your left foot for another left foot.its a wash.

you need another sniper to compliment Gaborik so teams wont be able to focus on him as much.

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doesnt matter,you dont trade your only bonafide goal scorer when its clear you need another 1.thats like trading your left foot for another left foot.its a wash.

you need another sniper to compliment Gaborik so teams cant focus on him as much.
I'm not the one saying to trade him. However, you could bring in a bigger, stronger player who fits our system better. If you swap Parise for Gabs salary and then make a trade for someone like a Bobby Ryan. You would have a first line far more capable of playing within our system.

I was merely commenting that moving Gabs wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I don't see that happening with his no trade clause. I think the Rangers are going to try to bring in a big dude to play on that top line. A power forward is what Richards and Gabs need-not another sniper.

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I'm not the one saying to trade him. However, you could bring in a bigger, stronger player who fits our system better. If you swap Parise for Gabs salary and then make a trade for someone like a Bobby Ryan. You would have a first line far more capable of playing within our system.

I was merely commenting that moving Gabs wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I don't see that happening with his no trade clause. I think the Rangers are going to try to bring in a big dude to play on that top line. A power forward is what Richards and Gabs need-not another sniper.
you giving up either McD or Kreider then?because thats the only way the Ducks are giving up Ryan,if 1 of those 2 are going back.

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Trade Gaborik for a Mike Richards like return. (1 established young NHLer, top prospect, draft pick)

Wait to see if Crosby/Malkin/Perry/Getzlaf test FA......

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you giving up either McD or Kreider then?because thats the only way the Ducks are giving up Ryan,if 1 of those 2 are going back.
Or you can make a package around Gaborik with prospects. Neither you nor I know exactly what it would take.

Besides, its a hypothetical.

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05-24-2012, 08:05 AM
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gaborik and a pick(+thomas/maybe some other prospect) for nash imo. i'd take parise, but i doubt we'd get him(or that he's available. they went too far) and we need a rw more than a lw if we dump gaborik with kreider's potential. i like gaborik, but he doesn't fit our system nearly as well as nash would and the streaks are fine in the regular season, but not in the playoffs.

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gaborik and a pick(+thomas/maybe some other prospect) for nash imo. i'd take parise, but i doubt we'd get him and we need a rw more than a lw if we dump gaborik with kreider's potential. i like gaborik, but he doesn't fit.
Nash?no ty.his contract and point totals just arent worth it.Gaborik is a better player then him anyway.

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Nash?no ty.his contract and point totals just arent worth it.Gaborik is a better player then him anyway.
i suppose he's not better per say...just a better fit for this system. maybe send the draft picks the other way, but if anybody is a potential trade for gaborik that's available it's nash. parise isn't much better than either one and he's going to be a hunt and you'd still have to move gaborik.

i guess cap hit doesn't help from nash. 8mm is huge.

gaborik's way too streaky though. its awful. he doesn't handle the pressure of ny well.

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gaborik and a pick(+thomas/maybe some other prospect) for nash imo. i'd take parise, but i doubt we'd get him(or that he's available. they went too far) and we need a rw more than a lw if we dump gaborik with kreider's potential. i like gaborik, but he doesn't fit our system nearly as well as nash would and the streaks are fine in the regular season, but not in the playoffs.
Gaborik is not going to agree to going to Columbus. You trade Gabs to another contender.

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Gaborik is not going to agree to going to Columbus. You trade Gabs to another contender.
ah he has a ntc? i guess that makes sense then. who is a contender though?

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I'm not the one saying to trade him. However, you could bring in a bigger, stronger player who fits our system better. If you swap Parise for Gabs salary and then make a trade for someone like a Bobby Ryan. You would have a first line far more capable of playing within our system.

I was merely commenting that moving Gabs wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I don't see that happening with his no trade clause. I think the Rangers are going to try to bring in a big dude to play on that top line. A power forward is what Richards and Gabs need-not another sniper.
Ending up third best goal scorer in the leauge despite not fitting the system says something about what a good player he is.

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Ending up third best goal scorer in the leauge despite not fitting the system says something about what a good player he is.
but he's not even close in the playoffs. it's the streakiness that's bad about gabs.

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Ending up third best goal scorer in the leauge despite not fitting the system says something about what a good player he is.
I never said he was a bad player. He is very good player in a system that doesn't really compliment his game.

I can only imagine what Gabs would look like on a team like the Pens or the Red Wings who can skate quickly and pass.

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gaborik and a pick(+thomas/maybe some other prospect) for nash imo. i'd take parise, but i doubt we'd get him(or that he's available. they went too far) and we need a rw more than a lw if we dump gaborik with kreider's potential. i like gaborik, but he doesn't fit our system nearly as well as nash would and the streaks are fine in the regular season, but not in the playoffs.
You kidding right? gaborik AND a pick/prospect for Nash. I wouldn't do Gaborik straight up for Nash considering the contract and the player and his 59 points last season.

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