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05-09-2012, 01:53 AM
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Just for my own knowledge would you guys ever consider a Kesler for Ryan trade?

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If you had asked a year ago, I'd probably jump at the chance. Now? I don't think I would. Not without seeing how he does, and if he can stay healthy. Two surgeries like his in a little over a year is a big red flag.

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Kesler is now damaged goods until he proves he is healthy. The Ducks have experience with torn labrum surgery and it isn't great.

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A healthy Kesler? Hell yes. The guy that just had another surgery which takes at least 6 months before he can even play again? Probably not.

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I'd think we'd be very interested if it weren't for the injury issues.

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Ask again this time next year. We just had three players demonstrate this year what shoulder injuries do to a season.

Yesterday I said yes, however.

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Kesler is now damaged goods until he proves he is healthy. The Ducks have experience with torn labrum surgery and it isn't great.
This sums it up for me.

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I would absolutely consider it.

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Never. Not because the value isn't there but because I can't stand players like Kesler.

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I completely agree with Sojourn. Regardless, ducks need to get somebody.

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No. We need someone to play with Ryan, not replace him.

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Agreeing with everyone else here. If he's healthy, then yes.

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Which Ryan Kesler are we getting? From the Kings series this year, or the one from NSH series last year.

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Kesler for 6th overall + Etem.

Most Ducks fans are going to ****, but I'd make this trade.

X - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Kesler - X
X - Koivu - Selanne

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I would too ordinarily, but those injuries worry me.

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Kesler for 6th overall + Etem.

Most Ducks fans are going to ****, but I'd make this trade.
I think every Ducks fan would do that every day and twice on Sunday.

Canucks fans? Ehhh....

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Kesler for 6th overall + Etem.

Most Ducks fans are going to ****, but I'd make this trade.

X - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Kesler - X
X - Koivu - Selanne
Every duck fan should be willing to do that move IMO.

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I want to see how effective he is after shoulder surgery first. If he loses strength and can't play the physical game or get his shot off it's no longer a bargain, and chances are he won't return to form until 2013-14.

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I think every Ducks fan would do that every day and twice on Sunday.

Canucks fans? Ehhh....
Who was the center most Ducks fans wouldn't trade 6th overall and Etem for?

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I want to see how effective he is after shoulder surgery first. If he loses strength and can't play the physical game or get his shot off it's no longer a bargain, and chances are he won't return to form until 2013-14.
For that reason alone I'd rather try and sign O.Jokinen (although he's likely to stay in Calgary).

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Kesler for Ryan is a discount price for Anaheim. I'd say yes to that deal even with the injury concern.

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I'd rather trade the 6th + Palmieri unless the prospect in the deal has to be Etem.

As long as Selanne returns, someone will have to play out of position to accommodate Palmieri at RW. While Etem may spend most of next year in the AHL, we need a strong LW/LH shot in our Top 6 and Ryan can always move back to his natural RW position on the 2nd line when Etem makes the roster and/or Selanne retires.

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Kesler for Ryan is a discount price for Anaheim. I'd say yes to that deal even with the injury concern.
I wouldn't have a good time saying yes even without the injury concerns, quite honestly. I really liked Kesler as a player, but I think people made too much of his pure numbers last year, and I don't think it's reflecting what he can be expected to provide as a player. He scored a ton of his points and goals on one of the best power plays in the game playing with the Sedins, from all I remember. He's a really good player, and an almost ideal second line center (if you don't have two top centers) - which is why I don't think there's much of a chance the Canucks move him - but I think last year was a bit of a statistical anomaly for him, and I really couldn't see Ryan being a discount.

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I wouldn't have a good time saying yes even without the injury concerns, quite honestly. I really liked Kesler as a player, but I think people made too much of his pure numbers last year, and I don't think it's reflecting what he can be expected to provide as a player. He scored a ton of his points and goals on one of the best power plays in the game playing with the Sedins, from all I remember. He's a really good player, and an almost ideal second line center (if you don't have two top centers) - which is why I don't think there's much of a chance the Canucks move him - but I think last year was a bit of a statistical anomaly for him, and I really couldn't see Ryan being a discount.
I'll take roughly 10 less points a year if it means the player coming back affects the play more than four to five minutes a game, and Kesler does that. Yes, he is a ******, and yes he does dive like a puss a hell of a lot, but he is also a much better hockey player than Ryan.

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WRT Kesler's offensive numbers, one could argue both 70 point seasons were flukes. One saw him chalk up 50 assists, another 40 goals. On average he's been good for 25g, 30a. Obviously he could be just hitting his offensive prime and could easily do it again, but between that and injury concerns, I wouldn't trade Ryan for him.

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