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05-25-2012, 08:13 AM
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Time for Henrik Lundqvist to be like Mike Richter

Many comparisons here between the two, and normally I like to just say that both were/are spectacular.

That said, we need Henrik to step up tonight and play the way Mike Richter did in game six at New Jersey 18 years ago today. Yes, many things are different between these two teams than they were then...but the one constant is a universal hockey truth...

We need our goalie to be spectacular tonight. If we want to reach the Stanley Cup finals, we need Hank to do what Mike Richter did in game six. Without Richter that night we lose that game 6-2, Messier has no hat trick, and his 'guarantee' means as much as all of Patrick Ewing's guarantees that the Knicks would beat the Bulls.

Before anyone changes my post to create a straw man argument...no, I do not blame Hank for the loss of any game or series. No, I do not want Hank traded. Yes, I do realize we are where we are in large part because of Hank.

But in the biggest game of his career, Mike Richter played the biggest game of his career. That's what we need from Hank tonight. You can do it Hank!

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

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05-25-2012, 08:16 AM
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...or he can just play like the Henrik from Games 1 and 3. BELIEVE!

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05-25-2012, 08:22 AM
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mike richter was the BEST goalie in nhl history period.....he played in front of horrible defensive teams and was technically the best goalie to ever play the game....I dont care what anyone says about hasek roy and fatso....richter was the best ever

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05-25-2012, 08:26 AM
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if hank plays poor tonite im gonna seriously question whether hes capable of leading us to a cup. just too many playoff collapses with him.

yea yea ive heard it all before, hank carried those teams, hes the reason they made the playoffs, blah blah blah. we're built around hank, our style of play is built around hank, we depend on him to be an elite goalie. if he cant consistently be that elite goalie in the playoffs then we got no shot.

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05-25-2012, 08:29 AM
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To give you guys chills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZRvgaKZgA

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More Richter vs Bure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUFt...eature=related

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No way he can play another weak game. Based on the type of player he is and his personality (based on what we get from the media atleast, not like we really know him), I'd have to expect him to will his way to a great performance.

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05-25-2012, 08:32 AM
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mike richter was the BEST goalie in nhl history period.....he played in front of horrible defensive teams and was technically the best goalie to ever play the game....I dont care what anyone says about hasek roy and fatso....richter was the best ever
Mike Richter was my idol growing up, and as a kid my dad used to allow me to skip school and watch closed practices at playland ice casino.

During that time, I got to watch Mike closely in practice, and the things I saw him do still make me shake my head to this day. Being a goalie myself, he was absolutely incredible to see him make certain glove saves and his positioning, and reflexes were second to none.

He was severely underrated, and in my opinion was the best goalie to come out of that entire era. Mike Richter had RIDICULOUS talent.

I remember in December of 1993, MSG aired a short segment on him and he was interviewed in central park. One of the quotes from that always stuck with me...

"A goalie is only as good as the team in front of him"

The ironic thing is, in Richter's case, he always played better than the team he had in front of him, and was still amazing.

Lundqvist is the same way, he plays unreal without a team in front of him playing that great a lot of the time. This is what showcases the true talent of a goaltender.

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05-25-2012, 08:37 AM
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mike richter was the BEST goalie in nhl history period.....he played in front of horrible defensive teams and was technically the best goalie to ever play the game....I dont care what anyone says about hasek roy and fatso....richter was the best ever
Nope.

But he was a big game player. Lundqvist has been this post-season - he needs to be again, because hes been particularly human the last 2 games.

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05-25-2012, 08:40 AM
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mike richter was the BEST goalie in nhl history period.....he played in front of horrible defensive teams and was technically the best goalie to ever play the game....I dont care what anyone says about hasek roy and fatso....richter was the best ever
come on, as a maiden fan you should know who the best goalie ever is

Grant Fuhr > Mike Richter

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Isn't it bad enough that the media can't stop with these inane 1994 comparisons? Now our fans have to get in on the act, too?

How about Henrik Lundqvist plays like Henrik Lundqvist, the guy who has been nominated for 4 Vezina trophies in the first 7 years of his career and has been the most consistently elite goaltender in the league ever since he made his NHL debut? How about he plays like the Henrik Lundqvist who, in the first and only time he's played behind a team that was capable of doing any damage whatsoever in the playoffs, has guided his club to game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals?

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Isn't it bad enough that the media can't stop with these inane 1994 comparisons? Now our fans have to get in on the act, too?

How about Henrik Lundqvist plays like Henrik Lundqvist, the guy who has been nominated for 4 Vezina trophies in the first 7 years of his career and has been the most consistently elite goaltender in the league ever since he made his NHL debut? How about he plays like the Henrik Lundqvist who, in the first and only time he's played behind a team that was capable of doing any damage whatsoever in the playoffs, has guided his club to game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals?
its games like tonight that legacys are built from, sure hes been great but if he plays like he did last game fans will serious doubt his playoff ability

richter showed up big when it really mattered in 94, henrick needs to do the same if he wants to be mentioned in "best ever" conversations

if he plays like he did last game fans will compare him to the likes of jumbo joe or dany heatley, players that can't get it done in the clutch

imo its very fair to compare to richter

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As great as Lundqvist is, I still don't think he's on Richter's level as far as delivering top notch performances in key spots. Richter was more inconsistent than Henrik throughout his career but when he was on, he was electric to watch. Richter's peak level of play > Henrik's peak level of play, but Henrik is more consistent than Richter.


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It's a great opportunity for Lundqvist to be like "The King" before him: Patrick Roy.

Behind closed doors, I'm sure Henrik is promising his teammates that he'll win the game for them IF THEY JUST give him a lead to work with.

This is the type of situation where Conn Smythe Trophy contenders are born, putting a team on their shoulders and INSPIRING them to victory.

"Why reach for the stars When You Can Drill Through Them AND CREATE A NEW TOMORROW!!!"

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05-25-2012, 09:41 AM
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i know henrik has been our mvp, and more consistent than richter

but richter was one of the best clutch players of all time, tonights game is the biggest of lundqvists career, if he wants to be compared to richter he needs to show up big tonight

he could surpass 301 wins and break richters regular season records but if he doesn't have clutch wins like richter in 94 he will never have that legacy, some of you might think thats not fair but its reality

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if hank plays poor tonite im gonna seriously question whether hes capable of leading us to a cup. just too many playoff collapses with him.

yea yea ive heard it all before, hank carried those teams, hes the reason they made the playoffs, blah blah blah. we're built around hank, our style of play is built around hank, we depend on him to be an elite goalie. if he cant consistently be that elite goalie in the playoffs then we got no shot.
Can't agree with you more..gets all the credit but never the blame

Time for him to deliver..make big saves at key times..he's done it before so let's do it again and do it consistently

LGR!

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As great as Lundqvist is, I still don't think he's on Richter's level as far as delivering top notch performances in key spots. Richter was more inconsistent than Henrik throughout his career but when he was on, he was electric to watch. Richter's peak level of play > Henrik's peak level of play, but Henrik is more consistent than Richter.
I think that is very fair.

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I don't think it is fair comparison. The game has changed so much. You put Lundqvist into '94 playoffs and he would probably have shutout after shutout. It would be extremely difficult to produce consitently those top corner glove side shots that beat him with those wooden sticks. We sure didn't have as good defensive system in place as we got now, but we had good defensemen plus their job was easier with holding, crosschecking and hooking routinely overlooked by the refs those days. I don't know who is better Mike or Hank. All I know is the season Lundqvist having could be his career best easily. We must win tonite. We may not have a chance to go to Final for years.

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I don't think it is fair comparison. The game has changed so much. You put Lundqvist into '94 playoffs and he would probably have shutout after shutout. It would be extremely difficult to produce consitently those top corner glove side shots that beat him with those wooden sticks. We sure didn't have as good defensive system in place as we got now, but we had good defensemen plus their job was easier with holding, crosschecking and hooking routinely overlooked by the refs those days. I don't know who is better Mike or Hank. All I know is the season Lundqvist having could be his career best easily. We must win tonite. We may not have a chance to go to Final for years.
I'm just going to completely disagree with this opinion.

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If Hank wants to be called the Rangers best goalkeeper all-time and be greater than Richter this is his chance to show it by winning game 6 and 7. If he plays the way he did in 5 then it is no comparision, this is how you become remember as an all time great.

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i know henrik has been our mvp, and more consistent than richter

but richter was one of the best clutch players of all time, tonights game is the biggest of lundqvists career, if he wants to be compared to richter he needs to show up big tonight

he could surpass 301 wins and break richters regular season records but if he doesn't have clutch wins like richter in 94 he will never have that legacy, some of you might think thats not fair but its reality
Mr. Clutch Mike Richter has made it as far as game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals once. 1 time. With a much better team in front of him. Its just pretty remarkable to me how a couple of weeks in 1994 cemented Richter's legacy when, outside of a nice run in 97, his career was pretty unremarkable when it comes to "big games."

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Id like to see how far Mike Richter could carry a team that scored 3 or less goals in 18 straight playoff games.

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Mr. Clutch Mike Richter has made it as far as game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals once. 1 time. With a much better team in front of him. Its just pretty remarkable to me how a couple of weeks in 1994 cemented Richter's legacy when, outside of a nice run in 97, his career was pretty unremarkable when it comes to "big games."
As I said, in the biggest game of his career, Mike Richter played the biggest game of his career.

A Stanley Cup will cement your legacy.

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Agreed. He can't let in any more soft goals like he did in the previous two games. A lot of pressure on Henrik tonight.

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