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05-25-2012, 08:29 AM
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05-25-2012, 08:30 AM
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nino.
he was a joke when he played. come to think of it did he play ?

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05-25-2012, 08:56 AM
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05-25-2012, 09:44 AM
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Right. Role players forced to play out of their role because of lack of talent (Hilbert, Bates, Sim) shouldn't be on it.

Personally, I thought Mike Comrie was one of the most useless players I've ever seen in a NYI uniform for an extended stretch.

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This 100%. For a guy who ate up key minutes all year long, his contributions were MINIMAL. I have a hard time calling him one dimensional, as he was barely even that.

I remember when Papineau was being billed as our saving grace after a tremendous first game. He vanished quite quickly.

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05-25-2012, 10:02 AM
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You know what, I liked Brett Lindros, if it weren't for those concussions, who knows what kind of career he would have had. He had a very solid junior career, And only played 51 NHL games. As you can see his stats improving throughout his junior seasons, who's to say he wouldn't have gotten better throughout an NHL career if he didn't have all of those concussions ? I like the fact that he was pretty ferocious. He's the type of player we could use now.

Brett Lindros
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Born Dec 2 1975 -- London, ONT
Height 6.04 -- Weight 210 -- Shoots R
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Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
1991-92 St. Michael's Buzzers MetJHL 34 21 21 42 210 * -- -- -- -- --
1992-93 Canadian National Team Intl 11 1 6 7 33 *
1992-93 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 31 11 11 22 162 * -- -- -- -- --
1993-94 Canadian National Team Intl 44 7 7 14 118 *
1993-94 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 15 4 6 10 94 * 3 0 0 0 18
1994-95 New York Islanders NHL 33 1 3 4 100 -8 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 26 24 23 47 63 * -- -- -- -- --
1995-96 New York Islanders NHL 18 1 2 3 47 -6 -- -- -- -- --
NHL Totals 51 2 5 7 147
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05-25-2012, 11:13 AM
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You know what, I liked Brett Lindros, if it weren't for those concussions, who knows what kind of career he would have had. He had a very solid junior career, And only played 51 NHL games. As you can see his stats improving throughout his junior seasons, who's to say he wouldn't have gotten better throughout an NHL career if he didn't have all of those concussions ? I like the fact that he was pretty ferocious. He's the type of player we could use now.

Brett Lindros
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Born Dec 2 1975 -- London, ONT
Height 6.04 -- Weight 210 -- Shoots R
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Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
1991-92 St. Michael's Buzzers MetJHL 34 21 21 42 210 * -- -- -- -- --
1992-93 Canadian National Team Intl 11 1 6 7 33 *
1992-93 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 31 11 11 22 162 * -- -- -- -- --
1993-94 Canadian National Team Intl 44 7 7 14 118 *
1993-94 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 15 4 6 10 94 * 3 0 0 0 18
1994-95 New York Islanders NHL 33 1 3 4 100 -8 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Kingston Frontenacs OHL 26 24 23 47 63 * -- -- -- -- --
1995-96 New York Islanders NHL 18 1 2 3 47 -6 -- -- -- -- --
NHL Totals 51 2 5 7 147
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I thought he was a terrible hockey player....but he was big and young. He couldn't skate, shoot or pass though, had horrible hockey sense. He got by on size in junior. If his last name was SMITH he would have been a 3rd-4th rounder at best.

He did have a good junior year after he was drafted but as a young Islander, even before the concussions, he looked worse than Brad Dalgarno, Brad Isbister, Oleg Kvasha - much worse.

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05-25-2012, 11:21 AM
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He did have a good junior year after he was drafted but as a young Islander, even before the concussions, he looked worse than Brad Dalgarno, Brad Isbister, Oleg Kvasha - much worse.

That's saying something. Let's add Bill Muckalt to the list.

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05-25-2012, 11:41 AM
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Craig Darby 'key to the Turgeon deal' played all of 13 games with us, 0 goals 2 assists.

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05-25-2012, 12:11 PM
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That's saying something. Let's add Bill Muckalt to the list.
Muckalt did pretty well with us, actually.....for a while.

Kiprusuck, followed by Nino's first year (Nino would be first but I expect far better from him down the road - if management and coaching don't relegate him to obscurity), followed by Thomas Pock. This is pure hockey sense and talent displayed.....and all three are the worst I've seen. Nino gets a pass, but his skating and heads down first few months were the most painfully bad I've witnessed.

It was almost like Nino was Wang's cousin and given a job, but reality isn't that kind.

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05-25-2012, 12:20 PM
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05-25-2012, 12:54 PM
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Dan Plante was pretty freaking awful.

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05-25-2012, 01:52 PM
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Janne Niinimaa was the worst.

Anyone who said Gord Lane should check in for Alzheimers.
As a 5/6 defenseman Lane was a physical battler and crease clearer who could skate the puck out of trouble and make good first passes. On a team like the Dynasty Isles with their exceptional defense, Lane even got PP time.

Yashin?? Really? Really?? Don't let your hate blind you. Overoaid yes. Terrible....not exactly.

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05-25-2012, 01:55 PM
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Rich Pilon immediately came to mind.

Never forget him making a beautiful pass...to the wrong Turgeon and costing us a game in OT.

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05-25-2012, 01:57 PM
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Dan Plante was pretty freaking awful.
True, but he did score a playoff goal for us in '94. That in itself elevates him over half the schmoes that have worn the uniform the past 25 years.

Also add: Chris Marinucci, Hobey Baker winner. If we had a Worst Skater thread, he'd be up there.

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Some great names being thrown out there.....of those previously mentioned, Janne Niinima and Ted (please pay off my brother to get anything done on Long Island) "Alfonse" Donato make me the most ill.

Good call on Dan Marois....

Brad Dalgarno comes to mind although he did manage to put up some points as compared to the "parade of horribles" mentioned in this thread

Let me also throw out Jari Gronstrand and Dennis Vaske.

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05-25-2012, 02:20 PM
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I guess I'm nicer than you, and I give Nino hell. I left him off my list out of the kindness of my heart.
niederreiter begged to be in the men's league and snow GAVE him a spot. what he has EARNED is serious consideration for this dubious award.

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Some great names being thrown out there.....of those previously mentioned, Janne Niinima and Ted (please pay off my brother to get anything done on Long Island) "Alfonse" Donato make me the most ill.

Good call on Dan Marois....

Brad Dalgarno comes to mind although he did manage to put up some points as compared to the "parade of horribles" mentioned in this threadLet me also throw out Jari Gronstrand and Dennis Vaske.
Brad was never the same after Kocur broke his orbital bone in a fight.

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It'll be funny to read this thread in a couple of years when Niederreiter is a 30 goal scorer. I will make sure to bring back this thread afterwards. Anyone who has given up on Niederreiter already, doesn't know anything about hockey. Give the kid a couple of years and he'll be a good goal scoring power forward in this league.

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05-25-2012, 03:01 PM
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I got Plante, McBean, Kvasha, and Lindros

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05-25-2012, 03:11 PM
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Rich Pilon immediately came to mind.

Never forget him making a beautiful pass...to the wrong Turgeon and costing us a game in OT.
Overreaching here. Pilon is one of the toughest players this organization has ever had. Don't be fooled by his visor, that was only there because of a serious eye injury.

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It'll be funny to read this thread in a couple of years when Niederreiter is a 30 goal scorer. I will make sure to bring back this thread afterwards. Anyone who has given up on Niederreiter already, doesn't know anything about hockey. Give the kid a couple of years and he'll be a good goal scoring power forward in this league.
i haven't read anyone suggesting that they are giving up on niederreiter...just that he has posted one of the worst seasons in nhl history

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It'll be funny to read this thread in a couple of years when Niederreiter is a 30 goal scorer. I will make sure to bring back this thread afterwards. Anyone who has given up on Niederreiter already, doesn't know anything about hockey. Give the kid a couple of years and he'll be a good goal scoring power forward in this league.
And then we'll all be sorry.

Nino future is hopefully a MUCH, MUCH better player, but the skill and basics I saw were humiliatingly bad. Worst I've ever seen until mid season.

Next year I expect him to be in the minors. After that? I expect a kid with size and talent to fight hard to make a name for himself. There is no way he can be as bad as he was in Oct-Jan. Worst I've ever seen at times. I still remember the head down hit just moments after he lost the puck.

It'll be fun remembering that if he does in fact use his size and skill and be a solid 2nd line power forward (though this organization has made the words, "power forward" a curse, a jinx)

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Overreaching here. Pilon is one of the toughest players this organization has ever had. Don't be fooled by his visor, that was only there because of a serious eye injury.
One of my all time favorites, indeed! Boy, we could use him on this team.

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And then we'll all be sorry.

Nino future is hopefully a MUCH, MUCH better player, but the skill and basics I saw were humiliatingly bad. Worst I've ever seen until mid season.

Next year I expect him to be in the minors. After that? I expect a kid with size and talent to fight hard to make a name for himself. There is no way he can be as bad as he was in Oct-Jan. Worst I've ever seen at times. I still remember the head down hit just moments after he lost the puck.

It'll be fun remembering that if he does in fact use his size and skill and be a solid 2nd line power forward (though this organization has made the words, "power forward" a curse, a jinx)
Boy, that is the truth. "Power forwards" are like defensemen - needs lots of time to percolate in the minors and to learn the pro game. Truth is no one has any idea what NN upside could be but we can all agree the NYI's did not do him any favors with how he was handled this year.

In my mind a power forward needs time and patience and guidance to learn nuances of physical play - and I don't mean body checking - I mean board play and how to use size and strength to create offensive opportunities and keep opponents honest on the ice.

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I got Plante, McBean, Kvasha, and Lindros
Wow, Wayne McBean, I thought he was gonna be a good player. The late 80's and early 90's truly was the time of high draft pick busts. I bet if a study was done, probably more top ten busts from 1985-1995 than any other time period.

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