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05-25-2012, 11:08 PM
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A lot of you are really unbelieveable.

Trade Gaborik? Awesome idea to trade the only 40 goal scorer on the team. He was hurt since midway through the Ottawa series. I guarantee that.

This team is only one or two smart hockey trades away from being a bonafide contender. I expect to see Erixon promoted to full time duty next year, that way the top 4 defensemen have to play 25 minutes a night. This team will benefit from someone with his puck moving ability out of the back end.

I really think Hagelin and Kreider have made Dubinsky and to a lesser extent Anisimov expendable. I think Dubi played his last game as a Ranger tonight. Who do the Rangers go for to add scoring though? Nash? Ryan? Parise? Sharp?

This team is still in awesome shape for two or three more years to make a run at the Cup. I have faith that a Cup is coming, and soon. Just not this year.

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You don't dismantle a Stanley Cup Contender. You tweak things, and re-up. The foundation is there. Gaborik shouldn't, and likely isn't going anywhere.

We either start next season with the same mentality we've had, meaning no major roster shake-up. Or, we make an adjustment, like moving Dubinsky.

I don't think we can afford another superstar, like Parise. And no chance in hell we give up a plethora of assets for a guy like Nash.

Stay the course. Maybe consolidate some of our assets for a long-term fixture in our line-up.

I would insist Gaborik and Richards spend the entire off-season glued to eachother. Summer, training camp, pre-season, etc.

Anisimov and Dubinsky both had terrible seasons imo. Doesn't mean they should be traded, but both guys fell well short of their expectations. Stepan was gassed down the stretch. He seriously needs to improve his lower body strength this summer. Hagelin had a sparkling rookie year, but he is better suited on the third line. He took a lot of dumb penalty's of late too.

Del Zotto is bound to become this teams whipping boy again. Shame too, he was great this year, and is still so young. He still needs time.

Stralman was this years Prospal. Low-Key signing that was a rock. Bring him back.

A healthy Sauer could have been the difference between the Cup finals, and our unfortunate demise. Despite all the defensive depth we have, a Righty with some oomph to his game really stands out.

I want more MZA. He impressed me before the wrist injury.

How much cap space do we have this summer?

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Who what? I have no idea who will be available in the offseason via trade or whatnot. Not sure who I want to target via UFA.

I do know that I want to get rid of Dubinsky.
The thing is that the secondary scorers that hit FA and are affordable are usually very flawed players ala the Tomas Flesichman's and Kopecky's of the league. I just don't see those guys working out on this team. Plus, I really don't see any mid-level FA being that much of an upgrade over Hagelin or Kreider.

I think Dubinsky's season was mostly a product of unreasonable expectations and bad luck.

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Cool. An exception to the rule really proves that you're right...

You don't trade a 22 year old defenseman that just scored 40 points. You just don't.

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05-25-2012, 11:11 PM
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Sit back and analyze the situation. Trading Gaborik is ****ing idiotic. Period. Are we the #1 seed without his 40 goals? DO we even make the ****ing playoffs without his 40 goals? The problem, which many of you seem to miss, is that we have no SECONDARY SCORING. So when our top guy gets shut down there is nobody there to pick up the slack. So then you all ***** and moan that he is the problem. Get a clue.

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The thing is that the secondary scorers that hit FA and are affordable are usually very flawed players ala the Tomas Flesichman's and Kopecky's of the league. I just don't see those guys working out on this team. Plus, I really don't see any mid-level FA being that much of an upgrade over Hagelin or Kreider.

I think Dubinsky's season was mostly a product of unreasonable expectations and bad luck.
Kopecky would work out nicely on the 3rd or 4th line. I'm not really talking much about FA, though. I really think we need to start moving some youth for players at this point.

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Cool. An exception to the rule really proves that you're right...

You don't trade a 22 year old defenseman that just scored 40 points. You just don't.
I said in another post, I would trade him, IF someone is willing to overpay

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A lot of you are really unbelieveable.

Trade Gaborik? Awesome idea to trade the only 40 goal scorer on the team. He was hurt since midway through the Ottawa series. I guarantee that.

This team is only one or two smart hockey trades away from being a bonafide contender. I expect to see Erixon promoted to full time duty next year, that way the top 4 defensemen have to play 25 minutes a night. This team will benefit from someone with his puck moving ability out of the back end.

I really think Hagelin and Kreider have made Dubinsky and to a lesser extent Anisimov expendable. I think Dubi played his last game as a Ranger tonight. Who do the Rangers go for to add scoring though? Nash? Ryan? Parise? Sharp?

This team is still in awesome shape for two or three more years to make a run at the Cup. I have faith that a Cup is coming, and soon. Just not this year.
Why is it when ever Gaborik is playing bad, he's always considered "hurt"?

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They r gonna let Feds go , hope prust is back, going to get a scorer somehow. I wouldn't change much

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We needed more offense going in, we needed more offense all season, and we needed more offense at the end. Mr. Sather, the floor is yours.

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good thing Prust turned off him brain in the playoffs. Probably made him a bit cheaper

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good thing Prust turned off him brain in the playoffs. Probably made him a bit cheaper
Hopefully a bit cheaper for another team to sign.

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Rangers 3rd and 4th line scoring. Any time the 4th line was on the ice there was a 0% chance of a goal. It's the truth. There was a higher chance of a goal against than a goal for. No speed, no offensive skill, why are they out there?

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What a great season from our guys this year. So proud of them getting to the ECF, which is what I hoped for at the beginning of the season. It's painful now but we have such a bright future. Nothing but optimistic about next year.

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Beating the Devils would have been better than a Cup win for me. Oh well. That's racin'. You examine the data inside and out, then come back better than ever next time. That's how you get to the top. You work at it. It's not the kind of the kind of thing that falls into your lap. It's a process. An "x" year plan. I'm a supporter of the plan despite today's result.

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We need a skilled player.

Trade Gaborik for a draft pick, prospect, veteran scorer (with a good contract) or some thing. Trade for Nash. (skilled player I want) I would rather have Nash then Gaborik.

Wouldn't want them on the same team to much $$$$.

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Why is it when ever Gaborik is playing bad, he's always considered "hurt"?
Excuse.

A lot of other players were hurt, too.

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Why is it when ever Gaborik is playing bad, he's always considered "hurt"?
I never said he was playing badly. You could tell, however, that he wasn't ripping his wrister as often as he usually does, opting to pass instead sometimes. When he did, the velocity wasn't there.

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Trade Gaborik
Uh...

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Great season, and although right now I can't find a way to smile, in a few days we will recover and see how special a run this was. First half of the season Staal was out, second half of the season Sauer was out. Dubinsky had an incredibly down season. Gaborik and Callahan weren't the leaders we expected during the playoffs (and were probably hurt)

Chicago had a young team not too long ago, they made it to the conference finals and lost to an ageing and deeper Detroit team. They regrouped and came back to win the cup

A few tweaks here or there,bottom 6 scoring from the likes of MZA, Hagelin and possibly some veteran UFA's and this team is back here again next season to finish the job

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We need to shore up the 5-6 defense spots. I think you can look at that as a reason we lost this series. I'm not sure how to approach it. You have Erxion & Mcilrath vieing for spots next year. At this point I think only one if them makes the team & you sign ortrae for a steady stay at home defensemen that can play more than 6 mins a game.

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I'd rather a first round loss than say we lost to the Devils in the Conference finals all day.

We kicked ass all year, made the playoffs and abandoned everything we did all year. Wtf

Should have traded useless Step and Dubi everyone thought was amazing for Nash in July.

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Uh...
Sorry. Let me fix my words.. Dynamic, explosive, good with the puck.

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We need a skilled player.

Trade Gaborik for a draft pick, prospect, veteran scorer (with a good contract) or some thing. Trade for Nash. (skilled player I want) I would rather have Nash then Gaborik.

Wouldn't want them on the same team to much $$$$.
We need more defense.

Trade Lundqvist



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The Rangers need a player who can take control of a game. Who scares you every time he's on the ice. That's the type of player that they're missing. Gaborik isn't that type of player.

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